Deathtouch
Boast - 1B: Target player searches their library for a card, then shuffles their library and puts that card on top of it.
2/3
So how does this interact with Ashiok, Dream Render and Opposition Agent in a game of Commander? If I control both, if my opponent controls the last Opposition Agent to come into play, if the Opposition Agent is mine and someone else has Ashiok, etc.
Edit: not sure if it matters, but I know that unlike conditional tutors, this kind of tutor actually requires the player searching to find a card. And forcing someone else to do that is fairly unprecedented.
Might produce some red/blue decks that abuse this kind of mechanics.
Mana Crypt, Jeweled Lotus, hi how's it going I'm a 7/5 on turn one. Or use your land drop to cast Sol Ring or Mana Vault instead of the Crypt. This is the kind of jank I love- pretty unlikely to get an explosive start like you or I have suggested but very worth partnering it with something better for those hilarious rare occasions. Ain't bad in the 99 either.
Correct, you could file this in civil court as a violation of a verbal agreement. After the hundreds of dollars you've spent filing this claim in court, hundreds if not thousands of dollars on lawyers to assist you in this, and your playgroup's knowledge that you are willing to go to litigation over a card game with presumably zero stakes, you have to decide if it was all worth it.
So basically don't do it if my opponent is Alpha Investments, got it.
I actually would like advice on if the basic concept works rather than the super dumb legal hypothetical. It seems like an obvious oversight to me to make Wheel of Fortune But Better and I'm not the smartest Magic player.
Wheel of Misfortune 2R
Sorcery
Each player secretly chooses a number. Then reveal those numbers. Wheel of Misfortune deals damage equal to the greatest chosen number to each player that chose it. Then, each player who didn't choose the smallest number discards their hands, then draws seven cards.
Let's say I propose this: I tell everyone I have this in my hand, then we make an agreement that everyone who doesn't want to Wheel chooses -1 and everyone else chooses 0. Anyone who breaks the agreement upon resolution of the spell forfeits the game. Is there any reason this shouldn't work from a rules perspective? If one were to literally rules lawyer this, my states allowed for legally binding verbal contracts, and Wizards has issued a statement before that the law supersedes the rules of Magic.
(people would take off their pants to block Hurloon Wrangler, pretty funny story)
If the best deck becomes so oppressive that no other deck can realistically beat it in good numbers and that special deck loses to anything else in large numbers, then its a de-functional format that cant fix itself.
That is literally the definition of broken.
Back around Mirrodin block, when they explicitly set out to make the cards powerful enough to affect Eternal formats, at least they had the excuse of "everything we print must be legal in Standard". Not so much these days. Your salt is reasonable and I'd think whatever they call the FFL these days should be able to catch most of the broken that gets through. I can see them not catching Lucky Clover, but Omnath and Oko are just embarrassing. Did they really learn nothing about upticking cheap planeswalkers on great abilities with Wrenn and Six?
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So one of the old combat tricks I used to like to do back when combat used the stack was attack with Volrath's Shapeshifter, get her blocked, discard into Phyrexian Dreadnought, get trample damage assigned, and shift to Phage the Untouchable before it was dealt. Is there any clever way to still do this?
While I'm at it, I'm pretty sure Phage with trample and lethal combat damage will kill the opponent and Phage simultaneously. Would like rules reasons for this.
Imagine you can run Black Lotus and Timetwister as four-ofs in Legacy. The only catch is that you have to pitch the Lotus before casting the Timetwister, and even then there's a few ways around that. Also, you can tutor for Timetwister for B.
That's basically what Echo of Eons and Lion's Eye Diamond are. The former sits around five bux. I'm obviously missing something as to why this hasn't replaced ANT or at least been maindecked somewhere in Legacy.
As the guy above said, speed. If you want a good example, Legacy Goblins tears ass against control because you're dropping threats faster than they can be countered.
Mana Drain sucked back in the day thanks to the now removed mana burn rule (unused mana emptying your mana pool at the end of a phase causes you to lose a life for each mana unspent this way).
Well... yeah. I thought everyone knew that? A buddy of mine spent months trying to have some sort of mana sink for it (and Su-Chi) back then. IIRC, most people usually played CoP of some kind, Candlebra of Tawnos, pumpable creatures or something similar. oR...they would have a castable card in hand.
On topic: Goblin Charbelcher and just plain not running lands. I netdecked a ten-proxy Vintage deck (because power nine) that ran Tropical Island and Bayou to be fetched out with Land Grant as the only lands. That deck was later refined to not even have them.
I just remembered how absolutely certain the guy who discovered Cadaverous Bloom/Prosperity was that this combo was printed intentionally, even after R&D insisted it wasn't.
Good idea for a thread. I assume it didn't take off for lack of ideas. I'd recommend " All Swamps are 1/1 creatures that are still lands (Lands are colorless. Swamps retain all abilities.)" for Kormus Bell.
I was going to post a serious reply to the rest of that but I don't think you meant it that way.
Edit: I was looking through the Urza's Saga spoiler and found an old-timey mechanic that could use an improvement in errata. Oppression
A lot of cards used to say "successfully casts", which has been errata'd into just "casts". A good one-word replacement would be changing casts to resolves.
Legendary Creature- Demon Rogue
Deathtouch
Boast - 1B: Target player searches their library for a card, then shuffles their library and puts that card on top of it.
2/3
So how does this interact with Ashiok, Dream Render and Opposition Agent in a game of Commander? If I control both, if my opponent controls the last Opposition Agent to come into play, if the Opposition Agent is mine and someone else has Ashiok, etc.
Edit: not sure if it matters, but I know that unlike conditional tutors, this kind of tutor actually requires the player searching to find a card. And forcing someone else to do that is fairly unprecedented.
Mana Crypt, Jeweled Lotus, hi how's it going I'm a 7/5 on turn one. Or use your land drop to cast Sol Ring or Mana Vault instead of the Crypt. This is the kind of jank I love- pretty unlikely to get an explosive start like you or I have suggested but very worth partnering it with something better for those hilarious rare occasions. Ain't bad in the 99 either.
So basically don't do it if my opponent is Alpha Investments, got it.
I actually would like advice on if the basic concept works rather than the super dumb legal hypothetical. It seems like an obvious oversight to me to make Wheel of Fortune But Better and I'm not the smartest Magic player.
Sorcery
Each player secretly chooses a number. Then reveal those numbers. Wheel of Misfortune deals damage equal to the greatest chosen number to each player that chose it. Then, each player who didn't choose the smallest number discards their hands, then draws seven cards.
Let's say I propose this: I tell everyone I have this in my hand, then we make an agreement that everyone who doesn't want to Wheel chooses -1 and everyone else chooses 0. Anyone who breaks the agreement upon resolution of the spell forfeits the game. Is there any reason this shouldn't work from a rules perspective? If one were to literally rules lawyer this, my states allowed for legally binding verbal contracts, and Wizards has issued a statement before that the law supersedes the rules of Magic.
(people would take off their pants to block Hurloon Wrangler, pretty funny story)
That is literally the definition of broken.
Back around Mirrodin block, when they explicitly set out to make the cards powerful enough to affect Eternal formats, at least they had the excuse of "everything we print must be legal in Standard". Not so much these days. Your salt is reasonable and I'd think whatever they call the FFL these days should be able to catch most of the broken that gets through. I can see them not catching Lucky Clover, but Omnath and Oko are just embarrassing. Did they really learn nothing about upticking cheap planeswalkers on great abilities with Wrenn and Six?
While I'm at it, I'm pretty sure Phage with trample and lethal combat damage will kill the opponent and Phage simultaneously. Would like rules reasons for this.
It's really annoying when people punch me in the face for playing my all-American Shahrazad/Twincast/Fork/Mirari control/lifegain deck.
That's basically what Echo of Eons and Lion's Eye Diamond are. The former sits around five bux. I'm obviously missing something as to why this hasn't replaced ANT or at least been maindecked somewhere in Legacy.
+ Reaper King / Progenitus
+ Blazing Shoal
+ Berserk / Twincast
One of the first combos I figured out on my own. This was back when Mystical Tutor was legal in Legacy. I bring this up in the obvious list because welp look at how long Blazing Shoal lasted in a format where target creature does not take up farming and is removed from the game entirely.
I always used Mishra's Factory, Stroke of Genius and/or Isochron Scepter, the Stroke being preferable to Braingeiser because of only having to tap one Island.
On topic: Goblin Charbelcher and just plain not running lands. I netdecked a ten-proxy Vintage deck (because power nine) that ran Tropical Island and Bayou to be fetched out with Land Grant as the only lands. That deck was later refined to not even have them.
I was going to post a serious reply to the rest of that but I don't think you meant it that way.
Edit: I was looking through the Urza's Saga spoiler and found an old-timey mechanic that could use an improvement in errata.
Oppression
A lot of cards used to say "successfully casts", which has been errata'd into just "casts". A good one-word replacement would be changing casts to resolves.