MTG Salvation

Putting instants back into the library after using them to set up a computations is bad

Patron of the moon can be flashed in during a computation (if when we resolve the desolation giant we have a necromancer set up to make a moonfolk)

Looks like rotlungs don't work on their own; I believe the previous proof involving them was in a setting where they could be given indestructible or have damage prevented to them, and only proved that the base toughness of each creature type can be made consistent

Ah, Dack Fayden doesn't work with Reality Spasm (we can steal a necromancer during a computation)

There's haste (from Minion reflector) and hence requires that a single combat step be the only way to deal a large amount of damage.

However, how do we actually have nontoken copies of Urborg Syphon-Mage enter the battlefield efficiently in order to create hasted tokens?

Edit: In fact Sphinx of the second sun is too late to matter as it only works after the only combat step

Deck 2 still needs to cast Starlight alongside Worldfire so can't drop Pamharmonicon

The first deck doesn't work because the tokens from Rapacious One can be sacrificed in a computation.
The second deck has Brudiclad which can turn damaged creatures into goblin boom keg.

Hmm, the only such card I know of is Chandra, Acolyte of Flame
(edit: Chandra, Torch of Defiance does this too but from the library which is harder to use)

Can we just arrange for some DN triggers to be on the stack after a computation? Creating a starfield of nyx and a march is sufficient for the next spitting image to copy whatever we need from the opponent.
Though, March is a bit awkward to bounce at instant speed since it makes Soul Separator not work.

(edit: or we just directly get triggers for orrery and omni which is probably easier)

Does Spitting Image copying Vedalken Orrery work? It only gives us an orrery after each copy of spitting image, not after each Retract.

Ah; it does work, as we can order the cast triggers to put a TYS[Spitting Image] trigger after each Volute[Retract] trigger (with Volute[PFE] triggers in between as needed too).

Looks good, though I think we need flying and lifelink on the same creature. (Alternatively, replace Scarecrow for another artifact creature + another damage preventer, e.g. Runed Halo).

A regular fog effect would actually work for that purpose but there are none that draw a card

Repeal can bounce tokens during computations

Arbiter of the ideal doesn't put cards on the battlefield face down (it just says "manifest" on it)

There is mirrormade in the deck, so that can be used to make omni tokens.
Then when the opponent has an omni, we can play mirrormade and in response to its triggers bounce omni and DN - then we end up with omni tokens that don't belong to a DN while keeping the original omni in hand; allowing it to be used to put a trigger on the stack for hyperstage transitions.

There's Ruins of Trokair but it doesn't ever create more than 2 mana. Might as well use it for the minor additional efficiency.


Oh, Glowing Anemone can bounce Blackcleave Cliffs allowing it to be discarded to Nihilistic Glee and returned with Restore again. I think that allows us to avoid using Worldfire which is a problem.

Edit: There are a few things that bounce lands of certain basic land types only. Sink into takenuma works but we're down a blue creature. Fathom Seer works (I think - opponent can't unmorph it) but needs two islands.

Edit: (Glowing Anemone, Moraug, Curse of Bounty -> Sink into takenuma, Sphinx of the second sun, Awakening) doesn't look like it loses anything (then of course we use Indatha Triome or Savai Triome)