Considering the recent release of Ruxa, Patient Professor, it was suggested that it would interact nicely with Asceticism, protecting the creatures from being targeted as well as giving the possibility to regenerate them. It was then pointed out that Asceticism grants the creatures Hexproof, thereby making them have an ability and thus not being affected by Ruxa anymore. (The same principle applies to Privileged Position, as the "other permanents" may be creatures.)
I acknowledge this is fully correct. Muraganda Petroglyphs works on the same principles as the Bear Professor, and here we find the ruling:
"If an effect says that an affected creature “has” or “gains” an ability, Muraganda Petroglyphs won’t apply to that creature because it has gained an ability. If an effect simply says that something is true of an affected creature (such as “target creature can’t be blocked this turn”) then that effect isn’t causing the creature to gain an ability."
Now, my issue is that while the Oracle states that Asceticism and Privileged Position grant creatures/other permanents Hexproof (and the Guild Pack version of PP even has this text in print), this represents a functional erratum to how these cards are played, one that should not occur and be reversed.
Both originally stated "Creatures/Other permanents [let's call it "Stuff"] you control can't be the targets of spells or abilities your opponents control."
Yes, that is essentially Hexproof BUT to me, this is "simply saying that something is true of affected Stuff" and therefore, said Stuff should NOT gain the rules text "Hexproof" in their textbox, and vanilla creatures with Asceticism/Privileged Position in play remain without abilities and gain benefits from the Petroglyphs and the Patient Professor.
I realize the printing of PP with the Hexproof wording pretty much cements this rules change... But it still feels wrong to me.
Yes, I FULLY realize that. What I'm saying is that the current Oracle wording makes the card different in terms of gameplay than the original printing. See what ThyLordQ is saying.
Yeah, toss down an asceticism and you're good to go.
Nope - Asceticism grants hexproof which makes Ruxa unhappy.
Does this actually imply the Oracle text of Asceticism is functional errata? The original wording does not read that your creatures get hexproof. To me that would be:
"Creatures you control have "This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.""
Instead it just says your creatures can't be targeted.
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Looking at recent price developments, money buys a lot less reserved list cards these days, making for pure unhappiness. I will probably never finish my Legends collection now.
Concerning the cards at hand... Let's just say I was unaware how darn expensive these are! €22+ for Karlov??? And of course this is the first foiling.
There's already talk in the competitive community about magecraft + Chain of Smog breaking the game, hence my theory that Chain of Smog may soon be functionally errata'd to be in line with the demonstrate text.
Yeah, that card jumped extremely in value some days back due to it being an insta-kill with Professor Onyx. I'm amused I bought a foil some years back for the hefty price of 12 Euro-cents, and now it's like a €40 card (the foil)...
Honestly, over the last few years is that true? What white removal was super efficient that wasn't a board wipe? What massive white soup creature was there since Dominaria? Blue seems to be getting far better removal and green tends to have far more efficient creatures that surpass white.
I wanted to say Zetalpa, Primal Dawn, but Rivals of Ixalan actually came out just before Dominaria (where you are probably thinking of Lyra Dawnbringer).
I acknowledge this is fully correct. Muraganda Petroglyphs works on the same principles as the Bear Professor, and here we find the ruling:
"If an effect says that an affected creature “has” or “gains” an ability, Muraganda Petroglyphs won’t apply to that creature because it has gained an ability. If an effect simply says that something is true of an affected creature (such as “target creature can’t be blocked this turn”) then that effect isn’t causing the creature to gain an ability."
Now, my issue is that while the Oracle states that Asceticism and Privileged Position grant creatures/other permanents Hexproof (and the Guild Pack version of PP even has this text in print), this represents a functional erratum to how these cards are played, one that should not occur and be reversed.
Both originally stated "Creatures/Other permanents [let's call it "Stuff"] you control can't be the targets of spells or abilities your opponents control."
Yes, that is essentially Hexproof BUT to me, this is "simply saying that something is true of affected Stuff" and therefore, said Stuff should NOT gain the rules text "Hexproof" in their textbox, and vanilla creatures with Asceticism/Privileged Position in play remain without abilities and gain benefits from the Petroglyphs and the Patient Professor.
I realize the printing of PP with the Hexproof wording pretty much cements this rules change... But it still feels wrong to me.
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"Creatures you control have "This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.""
Instead it just says your creatures can't be targeted.
Concerning the cards at hand... Let's just say I was unaware how darn expensive these are! €22+ for Karlov??? And of course this is the first foiling.
Ruxa, of course, s the perfect commander for Vanilla.dec. Gigantosaurus!!!
Triplicate Titan packs way more boom
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I love her!!! I actually know her name by heart. Carve me some gargoyle's, baby!
"... so I became a Witherbloom student."?
That sounds like a joke on performance-enhancing drugs.
Now makes me wish there was a card named "Cram" with the rules text: "Learn. Then learn again."