Tamarin, why are you so eager to get us to post our monikers?
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Figured it be obvious by now, my trigger involves them. Not gonna say exactly how, but it involves them.
Tamarin said his trigger involved monikers.
It doesn't make sense that someone's trigger activates off of other people's monikers.
Why are you worried about other people's triggers?
I'm not. What I said is that we don't know what people's triggers are, therefore its hard to avoid triggering them. So therefore no one else should worry about them either.
I think we need to play it better safe than sorry in this case.
Why do I agree with this? Because playing it safe when two people take less lynches than normal to lynch, and we don't know if either of them is town or not.
How 'bout you tell us first?
Sure. I think he's pushing for a lot of information. So far he's asked us to reveal our:
monikers:
I hate to call for an all out mass claim, but we really, REALLY should go and claim any handicaps we do have
and alludes that knowing people's triggers would benefit town here:
Also, as far as activating triggers, I feel it is two fold. On the one hand, town should want to wake up any abilities ASAP, since as it is we have to assume this is a mountainous situation ATM. Any edge town can get is helpful. Not only that, we have to assume that we lose our starting ability as soon as we recall our real ability. On the bad side though, we could accidentally awaken scum, which would be obviously bad.
I think he's fishing for a LOT of info, and as you said, the game just started. Therefore, he gets an FOS. FOS Tanarin
Yeah, I just wanted to see what you had to say about it. But being that we don't know if you're scum or not, I don't think it's the best of ideas to intentionally activate anyone's amnesia condition yet. The other thing I'm worried about is, if we do indeed lose our abilities once our memory trigger is activated, how do we know our new ability isn't going to be detrimental to the town? That's why I'm currently against your idea of a moniker claim. Maybe later on if we feel it could net an advantage against the scum, IF you've been cleared by then. Otherwise, I'm not going to advocate blindly activating something that could kill us townies off, whether intentional or accidental.
You're saying that you don't want a moniker claim because we don't know what our new abilities are going to be. This confuses me, because I don't believe the two things are related.
Also, no one's talking about intentionally activating people.
Although you do make a valid point about not knowing what people's abilities will turn out to be. I don't think they will be detrimental, personally. I think of it kind of like leveling up.
Yea,h I guess I can see the point on the not claiming the handicap part. Though I think loran's and roja's handicap did need to get out there, especially Loran's.
Yea, I do agree that Loran needed to get that out there. Roja would've been outed when he tried to vote, though.
On the moniker thing. I dunno, I think there may be something to gain on the moniker part.
Why? The moniker in the example seemed random, and that's a good baseline to go off of I think.
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/barn
Edit: and I really don't think there'll be anything to gain from moniker, either.
Figured it be obvious by now, my trigger involves them. Not gonna say exactly how, but it involves them.
Your trigger involves other people's monikers?
Also, as far as activating triggers, I feel it is two fold. On the one hand, town should want to wake up any abilities ASAP, since as it is we have to assume this is a mountainous situation ATM. Any edge town can get is helpful. Not only that, we have to assume that we lose our starting ability as soon as we recall our real ability. On the bad side though, we could accidentally awaken scum, which would be obviously bad.
Actually I would think town would want to keep as much information out of scum hands as possible. Everyone has a trigger that they can persue, and if they get into a situation to do it then they can. Not a whole lot we can do about it, as we don't know what triggers are out there, or who has them.
@mandershex: Assuming the worse case scenario here on everyone having a handicap. I think we need to play it better safe than sorry in this case.
Well, that proves loran's double vote thing for sure. If he ends up flipping scum obviously that'll be good for us, but if town, I see this going bad very quickly.
I'm not willing to put forth what my handicap is yet. There's plenty of time for that later, and I feel like it's just going to get taken advantage of.
On that note, vote kill-joy for, well, killing my joy.
Holding it ransom, more like
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Anyway, it is appearing as if everyone has some sort of vote handicap. As has been said, this is gonna be fun. I hate to call for an all out mass claim, but we really, REALLY should go and claim any handicaps we do have. As it is, if Loran is town, an incorrect vote is gonna get him lynched most likely.
I can't believe I am saying this...
Who here is up for a moniker/handicap claim?
Moniker doesn't seem to have much to do with anything. I don't think we will gain much from that.
And I don't think handicaps are a good idea either. It's probable that not everyone has one that they can prove, ergo getting us equally nowhere.
I'm all for just not voting for people until we have a little bit more evidence.
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So, kill-joy. Which name of the above 12 you don't like?
That's the thing. I currently have no qualms with anyone here. It's a bit too early in the game to know even partially if anyone is scum or not, imo.
And I just feel random voting does little to aid that goal.
I mean, the best anyone really gets is omgus responses which have an equal chance of being tells as just being a knee jerk reaction. Thats the impression I got from watching people play Mafia.
well since everyone else is trying to figure this out... lol
In no particular order:
Demigod of Revenge-Of course he is very good. Especially in Extended. I don't see him being played too much in Standard. I see a lot of Extirpates in SBs. Especially seeing how theres a lot of raving on Mono-Black decks, Extirpate will see the board. And i believe Bitterblossom's been mentioned. IDK. I love the Rakdos colors. always have, always will. I just don't see this being good enough for Standard play.
Oversoul of Dusk-Im almost certain this will see play. Pro removal is just so good in the current environment. Also, it has synergy with Painter's Helper, which i see being played simply because it makes a lot of your creatures better, such as naming black and being immune to Shriekmaw, a big card in Mannequin and other decks.
Deus of Calamity-This is my favorite of the Avatars by far. I think it will see the most play. A 6/6 for 5 mana with Trample is good. As red is traditionally fast as is, I am pretty sure this will be the kill card in many a red deck. And with all the accel in green, it should see play in there too. If Doran survives the transition from Lorwyn block to Shadowmoor, I think this will be included as a kill condition. The LD effect is just gravy.
Ghastlord of Fague-The weakest Avatar imo. A 4/4 unblockable specter for 5 is nice, though. It has a noteworthy synergy with Mirrorweave. As with the Deus, the second effect is just grave. Overall I think its just boring. Phantom Warrior meets Abyssal Specter.
Godhead of Awe- I honestly think this is the most powerful Avatar. This is mainly because I think aggro will dominate the environment. It changes the game state significantly. Also, if you play this, any one creature that your opponent will attack with dies to this. It hoses aggro.
i wonder how this would work with Auras.
like if i had this in play, and a Mystic Enforcer, and tried to play Armadillo Cloak, i wonder when the Aura becomes the color. If its on resolution, i dont think the aura would die...
i wanna see the rulings on this. hahaha
omg i love this card.
yea its expensive,
and prolly will never see constructed play.
but i play casual anyway,
and as i love the Rakdos colors this is prolly gonna be my new collect card.
that or Dusk Urchins. unless its expensive.
lol
Because of his ability. If he's town, then we don't want to accidently lynch him thinking he's still at l-3.
I was addressing his response to Iso:
Tamarin said his trigger involved monikers.
It doesn't make sense that someone's trigger activates off of other people's monikers.
I'm not. What I said is that we don't know what people's triggers are, therefore its hard to avoid triggering them. So therefore no one else should worry about them either.
Why do I agree with this? Because playing it safe when two people take less lynches than normal to lynch, and we don't know if either of them is town or not.
Sure. I think he's pushing for a lot of information. So far he's asked us to reveal our:
monikers:
handicaps:
and alludes that knowing people's triggers would benefit town here:
I think he's fishing for a LOT of info, and as you said, the game just started. Therefore, he gets an FOS.
FOS Tanarin
Ninja Edit:
@ kill-joy: How classy of you.
What was classy? *confused2*
You're saying that you don't want a moniker claim because we don't know what our new abilities are going to be. This confuses me, because I don't believe the two things are related.
Also, no one's talking about intentionally activating people.
Although you do make a valid point about not knowing what people's abilities will turn out to be. I don't think they will be detrimental, personally. I think of it kind of like leveling up.
Yea, I do agree that Loran needed to get that out there. Roja would've been outed when he tried to vote, though.
Why? The moniker in the example seemed random, and that's a good baseline to go off of I think.
*nods*
/barn
This.
That's a good point. Really, anything could be a trigger.
Your trigger involves other people's monikers?
Actually I would think town would want to keep as much information out of scum hands as possible. Everyone has a trigger that they can persue, and if they get into a situation to do it then they can. Not a whole lot we can do about it, as we don't know what triggers are out there, or who has them.
This I agree with.
/barn
I'm not seeing Iso as scum just yet either. What's your read on him, and why?
Also, what's everyones read on Tanarin?
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Well, that proves loran's double vote thing for sure. If he ends up flipping scum obviously that'll be good for us, but if town, I see this going bad very quickly.
Holding it ransom, more like
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I agree. Like I said earlier, it gains us nothing.
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Moniker doesn't seem to have much to do with anything. I don't think we will gain much from that.
And I don't think handicaps are a good idea either. It's probable that not everyone has one that they can prove, ergo getting us equally nowhere.
I'm all for just not voting for people until we have a little bit more evidence.
That's the thing. I currently have no qualms with anyone here. It's a bit too early in the game to know even partially if anyone is scum or not, imo.
And I just feel random voting does little to aid that goal.
I mean, the best anyone really gets is omgus responses which have an equal chance of being tells as just being a knee jerk reaction. Thats the impression I got from watching people play Mafia.
So, what's your guys's stories? Where'd you guys hear about mafia?
I'm forgoing the rvs as it seems pointless to me. Lol
Nope. No idea who that is.
I really am new. I like reading mafia games and thought I would join one.
It's my first game, however.
That pretty much answers both questions.
i notice a synergy with heartmender.
well all persisters have synergy with him dont they?
lol
In no particular order:
Demigod of Revenge-Of course he is very good. Especially in Extended. I don't see him being played too much in Standard. I see a lot of Extirpates in SBs. Especially seeing how theres a lot of raving on Mono-Black decks, Extirpate will see the board. And i believe Bitterblossom's been mentioned. IDK. I love the Rakdos colors. always have, always will. I just don't see this being good enough for Standard play.
Oversoul of Dusk-Im almost certain this will see play. Pro removal is just so good in the current environment. Also, it has synergy with Painter's Helper, which i see being played simply because it makes a lot of your creatures better, such as naming black and being immune to Shriekmaw, a big card in Mannequin and other decks.
Deus of Calamity-This is my favorite of the Avatars by far. I think it will see the most play. A 6/6 for 5 mana with Trample is good. As red is traditionally fast as is, I am pretty sure this will be the kill card in many a red deck. And with all the accel in green, it should see play in there too. If Doran survives the transition from Lorwyn block to Shadowmoor, I think this will be included as a kill condition. The LD effect is just gravy.
Ghastlord of Fague-The weakest Avatar imo. A 4/4 unblockable specter for 5 is nice, though. It has a noteworthy synergy with Mirrorweave. As with the Deus, the second effect is just grave. Overall I think its just boring. Phantom Warrior meets Abyssal Specter.
Godhead of Awe- I honestly think this is the most powerful Avatar. This is mainly because I think aggro will dominate the environment. It changes the game state significantly. Also, if you play this, any one creature that your opponent will attack with dies to this. It hoses aggro.
Rankings:
1. Godhead
2. & 3. Deus/Oversoul
4. Demigod
5. Ghastlord
like if i had this in play, and a Mystic Enforcer, and tried to play Armadillo Cloak, i wonder when the Aura becomes the color. If its on resolution, i dont think the aura would die...
i wanna see the rulings on this. hahaha
yea its expensive,
and prolly will never see constructed play.
but i play casual anyway,
and as i love the Rakdos colors this is prolly gonna be my new collect card.
that or Dusk Urchins. unless its expensive.
lol