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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Hey so here's another thing. I just iso'd HR and heavily believe he's Mafia.

    He doesn't appear very interested in having town reads at all. His scum reads are either on Wisp or on Anak/Az and I think there's was a bit on Rhand earlier. Except for the Az read, his scum reads don't have a whole lot of progression, In general his reads don't have any evolution.

    His singular focus on Wisp only gets broken when he's voting Az. He's not pushing in the right places when he does push, I just don't think he's playing the town game.

    I recall hearing that there's meta about him tunneling, but that shouldn't prevent him from reexamination of his reads, ever? There's none of those revolution moments that comes from realizing something during investigation of reads.

    Also he never answered about his top 3 town reads for me.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Quote from Killjoy »
    I don't like his list. The claim is ok, targets are ok.

    Can I get the Cliffnotes about why it's good?
    KJ how are these both "not good" and "potentially wrong"? Out of three things, two are ok.
    That's not what that means.

    Like specifically, It's not "good" like i don't see the it being from a town perspective. The claim and targets are fine, they don't seem out of place.

    The list is agnostic of the rest of everyone's behavior, focusing on one specific thing... but it's basing entire reads on it. He's not taking it into account and letting that color his read as a whole. It's just "these people were doing this thing, they are sus."

    Talk about why he was taking initiative and not just bsing a reads list there?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    @Vaimes: I didn't ask for it before you posted it though? I asked you about Sloth, not Tubba, and def not that specific post.

    I had the same thought Wisp had though. You voted Tubba, then cited a good post from him. Talk us through that progression please?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    I don't like his list. The claim is ok, targets are ok.

    Can I get the Cliffnotes about why it's good?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Do you disagree?

    I swear I've talked about this post a bunch.
    I don't see it as good. I can also see things potentially wrong with it.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Sloth: What are your thoughts on Vaimes?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Quote from Vaimes »
    @Wisp
    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    Sorry for the delayed post, I just kinda super don’t give a ***** anymore and it’s hard to WIM at this point.

    I’m Nighteyes Town Wit Companion. I can spend 2 vitality to open a second wit pairing, and can transfer the messages I receive to anyone I’m witted with in addition to my own message. I targeted Johnny N1 and asked who he thought I should link. He wasn’t sure, suggested Iso or Tammy. After I threw my hands up when he was just going to shrug vote me, I didn’t really care anymore but when I noticed I was still alive, I picked Sloth because he wanted Az more than me and no offence to Tammy or Anak, but I’m pretty sure I think Tammy is town and Iso wasn’t towny to me and Anak is tainted by that still.

    Vaimes is not likely to be scum, I would be dead if he was and there’s no reason to worry about my legacy if he’s scum.

    Nigh lockTown
    Tammy
    Sloth
    Vaimes

    Townish
    Cantrip
    Highroller
    Anak

    Slime
    Bur
    KJ
    Cuth
    Az

    @Wisp
    Hopefully, my role explains my eagerness to remove you, however with us being so far behind, I’m not worried about you any more and wish you the best of luck.

    My scum reads are based largely on the no lynch yesterday. It cleared Vaimes who I was iffy on and makes Az and by extension Anak look a little worse. Cuth is not leaving my scum pile until he does a single Towny thing, and KJ needs to do anything.

    @Bur I would’ve never guessed that you had difficulty with English and can assure you that any reads I have are based on what you are saying/doing, not how you are. You’re where you are for similar reasons to KJ in that I don’t feel any urgency to move the game in any direction.

    @All I apologise for the “popularity contest” remark, it was unwarranted and immature but it was incredibly disheartening to see all the shrug votes.

    Vote Az
    Vote Cuth
    I think this is a good post from Tubba. If I had to be nitpicky, I would say that it's weird he has Sloth as locktown without ever mentioning him in any meaningful capacity. His ISO is devoid of any Sloth read.
    Why is that a good post from Tubba?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Vote Anak

    Meant to do this earlier but didn't have my phone.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Hr: Do me a favor: Show me where scum Wisp's head is in this game. What is his agenda and why? Has he been consistantly scummy?

    Or middle of the road/kinda townie? And has he maintained that level for 800 posts?
    Honestly right now if he hadn't claimed a neutral, I'd be townreading him because I've likes some of his posts and he's maintained a level of not-scumminess for a lot of posts. I've seen this Wisp before. I even ISO'd 1300 posts to prove him scum (where he wasn't).

    So, show me a hidden scum agenda that isn't obvious somewhere in his head. Else he's probably not mafia.

    We're likely lynch in Tubba or Anak today probably, and if we decide otherwise, he can shoot Anak and leave. If these things happen and he doesn't leave, I'll evaluate this slot in that context then.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    @HR: Yeah I realized we're at MyLo now. Who besides Wisp would you wanna yeet?

    Aslo I'd like your top 3 town in some detail please.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Quote from Anaklusmos »
    *****! Sorry you're correct I can't Wit again, I just can not keep this role straight. If someone else Witted me then I would give them a vitality each night but I myself am out of shots

    What I get for trying to find ways to prove myself I guess.
    We already had this conversation dude. How could you forget what your role does twice in one game Day? lol. Come on now.

    I'd stil love that reads list.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    also if anyone isn't having its me lol
    There is also no arguable reason why you should be giving up here if you realistically think you would throwing the game for town
    I kinda had this thought as well actually.
    But I didn't wanna be like "This guilt is not worthy of throwing the game for his team" cuz that would be rude.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Hey Anak! Can we get a reads list please?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Quote from Slothful »
    Quote from Cuthalion »
    Quote from Slothful »
    What the hell. Did you even assimilate what I said? Why are you so desperate to have Wisp take a shot toNight? Why is it worth the risk? We should be playing carefully right now not just shoot all over the place.

    Also I thought this went without saying, but this also means you should be ******* holstering your shot too.
    Did you seriously just meant you when you were talking about the 1vit?

    Address the rest of my post.


    because there are more villagers alive compared to wolves right now than there ever will be

    and wolves get to pick who to keep alive

    that's why
    In most of the scenarios I just described, a single additional town death probably means we lose no matter what.
    And given that your claim is that you tried to shoot me, I am not filled with confidence in your aim.

    This game is solved with analysis and yeets, not trigger-happy Night PRs.

    @Wisp if any other player was in your position, would you be comfortable leaving the game in their hands?
    Hm. If Cuth agrees to follow town orders with his shot, would you be ok with him shooting? That's the only way I can see his shooting toNight.
    ALTHOUGH Bessie is a decent shot choice without being told. I like that.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 4 - Merchant of Dead
    Bessie: Can you answer my (and now sloth's) plea for your top 3 (bottom 3 accomplishes the same I think, sure) reads? In some amount of detail if you please.

    @Sloth: I recall reading that you asked me about Vaimes. He's kind of in the "I think he's town but..." where the but is some weird stances I've seen him take this game. Like claiming you're clear for not killing Tammy, which I do not see as logically true. Getting the towniest player to vouch for you is a good way to deep wolf, and you're more than capable of that. I do feel like if Vaimes was scum independent of Tammy, he would have killed her (unless he's also scum with you, for the reason I just said), so he's probably only ever scum with you or Tammy, and I don't think Tammy is scum, and now I don't really think you are either (I'm a fan of your p76 posts to Cuth).
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