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  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    I miss Cyan!
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    I hate to do this but something's happened in my life and... i don't quite know how to handle it.
    But I won't be able to give this game any real attention as a result.

    I need to replace out.

    Osie I'm sorry. But I just... can't.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    Sloth: Rhand is of the opinion that my "using the setup" at all (speculating about it, thinking about it) is scummy for me. He says this because I've said similar things in past games. I say similar because what I actually avoid doing is speculating about setup balance. "There's too many protectives claimed, they can't all be town". These are very different. I explained this to Rhand and he still seems to think it's scummy. Which is why I'm suspicious of him: he's not reevaluating. He's pushing what I view as a false narrative. He knows why his reason is too vague but he's saying it's scummy anyway.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    Partial v/la until Monday night PST. I'm gonna be at work pretty much non-stop.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    @Rod:I was on the Konan wagon before the end of the day too. I moved somewhere else to see where it went, but I was there for his entrance. You don't appear to have that in your assessment.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
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    No. He’s town. Why are you not considering town?
    No town WinCon.


    The wincon was omitted from the flip. Like he said it would.
    And the role states his original wincon still works.
    And there’s also no mafia wincon.
    That’s not a reason.
    there's never a mafia WinCon. You know that. That's not a reason.

    How does that role make sense as town? Especially with no alignment changes?

    It doesn’t make sense as any alignment really. There must be a way of spreading or there’s more than one.

    What do you mean there’s never a mafia WinCon?
    Read your role pm again. I’m sure there’s going to be something there about controlling the lynch.
    In flips. I thhink they usually omit mafia wincons from flips.

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    @Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
    I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
    I don't like this post by Rhand. It tries to use a very narrow variation of a very broad subject to try to corner me. I've even said why it's wrong and he's ignoring it,.


    That was a backtrack after being very adamant about it before.
    Point still stands: you were using the setup. That’s not your normal play. You leave setup talk to others normally.
    I leave setup BALANCE talk to others. If someone else were to claim to do things to dead bodies, for instance, I wouldn't try to figure out if that's too many people who target dead bodies in one town, because I can't properly guage that.
    This is trying to figure out someone's alignment based on their flip. I have all the info I can get from it. I'm not unravveling someone elses lie here. This is "what alignments could Tom Roddle be" and that;s in my wheelhouse because it's speculation. Maybe later when more flips happen someone else will know for sure what alignment that is, but it won't be me in all likelyhood.

    I do very occasioanlly make accurate setup guesses... but it's so rare that I don't usually bother. I'm more often wrong.
    See Ever Changing Seasons where I guessed at a factional set of abilities when no one else thought that.

    It's not black and white. It's not "uses the setup" and "town". And that's why I'm suspicous. You're pigeonholing me and it's not a fair assessment.

    @Terry in post 2289 are you sure I would go for such a narrow focus if i were scum?
    Is not fake scumhunting, you didn't answer at the reason of my vote.
    If i missed it link it to me please.

    I like Amy's post 2294, reflects thoughts i was too lazy to type.
    I'm sorry... you were too lazy to type two sentences? What?
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    Quote from Rhand »
    @Rodemy: the fact KJ is using the setup is proof enough. KJ never does that.
    I think Sloth is scum, but I’m only 14 pages in. I have another 30 to go through :/
    I don't like this post by Rhand. It tries to use a very narrow variation of a very broad subject to try to corner me. I've even said why it's wrong and he's ignoring it,.

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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    Quote from Rhand »
    Just to make sure everyone realises why KJ is mafia: it’s not because he thinks tom riddle isn’t town, it’s because he is so adamant about it while town!KJ doesn’t trust his own ability at gaming the setup.
    I don't trust myself in gaming setups with regards to "this role can't exist with these roles". I can't judge game balance. I do need to reconsider a town Tom since it doesn't necessarily need to be an informed group now. That's what I thought until this morning. If it's like a Chairman Mao deal, then town is possible, at least for some if them.

    I just thought they would all be the same alignment really.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    I did have a thought about the Tom nook cult thing. Maybe they're not informed. They don't know each other. But there gotta be more than one.

    But this game has to have some info, right????
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
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    So you think there’s a mechanic that makes mafia lose their roles as they get lynched?
    A) I don’t believe you believe Occam points that way
    B) You never trust your skill in setup gaming and now that we’re in a bastard game you’re gonna do it?

    I don’t buy this.

    vote KillJoy

    @tubba: I am not at all caught up.
    I think Occam points to this being more likely wolves than some group of neutrals. Because cults almost never exist in games if mafia, and teams of wolves always do.

    Do you disagree with that? Do you think he's a neutral team?

    No. He’s town. Why are you not considering town?
    No town WinCon.


    The wincon was omitted from the flip. Like he said it would.
    And the role states his original wincon still works.
    And there’s also no mafia wincon.
    That’s not a reason.
    there's never a mafia WinCon. You know that. That's not a reason.

    How does that role make sense as town? Especially with no alignment changes?
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
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    Ok, time out. Why do we care so much about the Tom Riddle mechanic? Should we be, you know... looking for scum?
    I think Tom Riddle IS scum, is my point. His role seems to interact with some kind of group that presumably knows about each other. Could be neutral, but Occum's says it's Mafia.

    So you think there’s a mechanic that makes mafia lose their roles as they get lynched?
    A) I don’t believe you believe Occam points that way
    B) You never trust your skill in setup gaming and now that we’re in a bastard game you’re gonna do it?

    I don’t buy this.

    vote KillJoy

    @tubba: I am not at all caught up.
    I think Occam points to this being more likely wolves than some group of neutrals. Because cults almost never exist in games if mafia, and teams of wolves always do.

    Do you disagree with that? Do you think he's a neutral team?

    No. He’s town. Why are you not considering town?
    No town WinCon.

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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    Quote from Rhand »
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Ok, time out. Why do we care so much about the Tom Riddle mechanic? Should we be, you know... looking for scum?
    I think Tom Riddle IS scum, is my point. His role seems to interact with some kind of group that presumably knows about each other. Could be neutral, but Occum's says it's Mafia.

    So you think there’s a mechanic that makes mafia lose their roles as they get lynched?
    A) I don’t believe you believe Occam points that way
    B) You never trust your skill in setup gaming and now that we’re in a bastard game you’re gonna do it?

    I don’t buy this.

    vote KillJoy

    @tubba: I am not at all caught up.
    I think Occam points to this being more likely wolves than some group of neutrals. Because cults almost never exist in games if mafia, and teams of wolves always do.

    Do you disagree with that? Do you think he's a neutral team?
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    Ok, time out. Why do we care so much about the Tom Riddle mechanic? Should we be, you know... looking for scum?
    I think Tom Riddle IS scum, is my point. His role seems to interact with some kind of group that presumably knows about each other. Could be neutral, but Occum's says it's Mafia.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    It could be a cult. Sure. But mafia I feel is slightly more likely.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Game Over - Town Win
    Ok. So why are you eliminating a whole alignment because we don't know enough about the mechanics of the game? That's premature, is available in saying.
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