But yeah, you're literally just not reading the game correctly.
I think Grape is scum because I think Osie/GJ is town. If I assume that, then he is the most likely player out of the four people who were on Osie (DV/Grape/Axel/DoTA) to be pushing him with a dishonest mindset. His push/vote on me is also extremely agenda based. He's trying to chain a mislunch on me into a mislunch on the Osie slot with this post:
Quote from Grapefruit21 »
That's fair. I still think the slot has a decent chance to be scum. Less than I did before I knew the cross was Osie but still not zero. Especially since GJ's not scum with Proph and Proph's wall was howling.
My scumread on DV boils down to a couple of things:
1) Out of all of the votes on the Crossbell wagon, his feels the most agenda-driven. With an exception, he's been pretty gung-ho about not liking Crossbell or I. I fear that he may be trying to chain mislunches (he's tunnelling Crossbell, then when he flips town he will shift to focus to me)
2) I feel like his posts have been kind of narrow? Like he doesn't show much insight into his thought process for his townreads, and he went from post 223 to 327 without really catching up.
3) PoE. Think if Crossbell is town, there's likely at least scum on his wagon. I like Grape atm, and DoTA may be town. We'll see on Axel after he completes his catchup.
I have to say that I do like this post from DV though. It's self meta, but it reads as somewhat genuine.
Quote from DV »
This is a severe misunderstanding of my scum rage game play. Typically as scum I argue about pendantic ***** to appear playing the game and then get annoyed by players ignoring my correct statements.
Its likely hard for players to seperate that from my town game play, because my town play focused on specific things but for me it was always with a purpose. Maybe not a purpose that other players understood, but a purpose none the less. Largely my town reads/gameplay in the last 5(? more maybe) years hyper evolved into me taking an active role to get players to respond to me to see these specific things/meta reads and that turned into me largely bullying people/becoming more toxic as I took the game too seriously.
My scum games I'd just get mad because people would say that something I did was a scum tell or something really dumb and then I'd just use that as a cover for my aimlessness which is in my opinion always been my biggest scum tell. Really though what I'm trying to get across is that it wasn't fake, it was always anger misplaced as it may have been.
DV - might still be a wolf, but I am mind-melding with his thought process, I think he is decent enough at pushing an agenda, but I don't think this is how he approaches it as a wolf. Overall I think he is veeeeery likely to be town
Axel - gets to be below DV for claiming to be town in his post, I like those things, fight me.
Grape - might be pocketing me, but I like his posts overall
Everyone else - don't really care yet?
Ehh? This isn't much of a thought process and doesn't assuage any of the teams with you on them. Hmph.
Proph - I'm not even thinking about his meta, I think its an unfun way to interact with Proph. I do very much dislike his handling of me, and pieces of that wall post, that include calling me out for not placing my vote, when that statement was should not have really led to that conclusion, unless you are trying to push malicious thoughts? He definitely needs to like blow me away today, for me to change this, possibly?
Crossbell - Something, something, about straddling the line of like knowing who we are, but also playing like he doesn't know who we are, kinda rubs me the wrong way. I think Grape explains it a lot better
24 hours in, but I would be baffled if there is not a wolf between proph and fake proph.
Feels like I hate all the people that hate me, guess that's how the cookie crumbles
I don't hate you. I love you!
In all seriousness, I have too many scumleans right now and you're not even in the bottom two.
Anyways Crossbell is trying way to hard to sort people off of really minor things IMO, it reads as scummy to me because its agenda driven when it is this weak, town shouldn't be pushing like this early on.
And scum wants the early attention that forcing a readlist in the first 100 posts gives... why?
To call my very casual defense of wisp as a "hard defense" is such a massive mischaracterization I don't see how it can come from a town mind. Confirm vote I feel comfortable with this.
Ehhhhh it's a defense. You're OMGUS voting for Wisp, essentially. It is what it is. You're reading too far into the word "hard".
I see where Crossbell is coming from wrt Axel but again, I still want to take the "wait and see" approach, given what I know about Axel's meta. My misgivings on Wisp are also based on tone.
Yeah, Wisp is missing that je ne sais quoi, hence no core yet, but I'm not yet convinced that they're not just self-restraining out of positive motives. Iff they start sorting, there exists tonal verisimilitude that does not present through their wolf game lol.
@Crossbell
so ya im with Proph on, "its too early for this Axel read", nonsense
did you even check the length between the posts, and the post count in compared to the rest of the game?
honestly I'll be lucky to get axel to respond sometimes
No, because while my explanation is a meta-read since it's easier to explain things that way, my actual read was off of tonal dissonance to what I feel is Axelrod's chakra.
Hey DV, I'd like to know why you think Crossbell potentially has inside info for what is obviously a reaction to Proph's play? That post is obviously "Proph is town [based on something unsaid as of yet] but you jumped straight to inside info/discrediting. What gives there?
When I'm scum I typically throw out some town reads and I've observed almost all scum to do so. They know X person is town, and thus get there through incredibly weak reads. Its not an inside read as Proph seemed to suggest based upon some setup knowledge its literal scum inside info knowing that a person is town.
I guess you could call it a scum slip, but its not really that its more of a scum supposition.
Why does you hating reading DV automatically equivocate to a scumlean? Is it because he's been so vocal in pushing for Crossbell, one of your ostensibly stronger townreads?
Hey man when you gotta look for an excuse to scum read me this is how you do it.
Really? I thought it would make more sense to make something up about your mother and father.
I mean, make something up about your mouthy blather. Sorry about that.
Hey DV, I'd like to know why you think Crossbell potentially has inside info for what is obviously a reaction to Proph's play? That post is obviously "Proph is town [based on something unsaid as of yet] but you jumped straight to inside info/discrediting. What gives there?
When I'm scum I typically throw out some town reads and I've observed almost all scum to do so. They know X person is town, and thus get there through incredibly weak reads. Its not an inside read as Proph seemed to suggest based upon some setup knowledge its literal scum inside info knowing that a person is town.
I guess you could call it a scum slip, but its not really that its more of a scum supposition.
Sure, but I'm not that predictable, lmao.
I mean there is really only two ways to play scum.
You either lock in reads and don't shift.
Or you waffle hard and leave every possible out you can to jump onto a wagon.
Yes you can color in between, but its really one of these two extremes. You can't outplay this inevitability.
Meh?
Also, would you say this applies to any alignment? Also calling my reads weak is a pretty surface-level attack. I might even call it a "weak read."
Also if you're scum and talked me out of me tunneling you, then well done.
I think this post (among others) would be.. a little harder to post/enter your brain as something worthy of posting if you were a wolf, while if you're town then this is a pretty natural thought to have.
Quote from Wisp »
man i dont want proph to be a wolf
his luck on this site would be so devastating if that was the case again
I wanna give him a chance
I hope I'm right lmao and I'm not about to get MEGA SNOWED
don't bother with these kinds of posts, I ignore them
Don't bother with these kinds of posts, I ignore them.
So after I pointed out that Cross was scumreading Axel without having any interactions with each other, they've now got a series of posts that still don't go anywhere towards moving the game forward. And Cross has moved their vote to me.
I have pointed out that part of my issue with Axel is that they haven't been doing enough to progress the game. But given that you two are likely teammates, I'm not surprised that you're trying to handwave my actual read on Axel.
Pretty sure Cross is at L-1, so we should be careful with our votes.
Quote from Killjoy »
When I'm reading your posts, I see a lot of myself in them. Old me who asked a lot of questions that perhaps I didn't think about in too much depth first. It's unlike you.
I'll shoot you a question then - when was the last time you have played with town Prophylaxis? Can't imagine any meta on me would very useful given that my last town game on MTGS was literally five years ago, if I remember correctly.
I'm reasonably confident that there are two scum in those 4 btw. Based on how worthless 99% of the reads on me have been, I think I've managed successfully to draw
both scum to voting my slot.
Recognizes Osie is saying OMGUS, goes IDK man, but doesn't say anything more than that.
Except it's not just OMGUS. I've been very conscious about my play this game and paid attention to how I'm drawing people onto my wagon. You handwaving it as OMGUS is a strawman to defend yourself.
Of course it's Osie, of course it is.
@Proph we have different definitions of LHF if u think Osie is that.
I would prefer not to be wrong on someone who is actually playing the game, but both Axel and DV have pointed out things not to like. And if this was town!Osie, I think he'd be more frustrated?
Really want to express how much I dislike Crossbell's posting.
Was a slight pressure vote now is an actual vote.
Like DV didn't even realize he wasn't voting me. Really absurd disengagement. I called out him for defending Wisp by chainsawing a vote and he quibbled about my wording instead of engaging with my read. And then he blusters about how I'm not engaging with a read which is clearly bogus and OMGUS from him? This is classic scum DV struggling to find a logical foothold to push town and jumping on what he sees as a LHF wagon alongside a buddy. Probably DoTA, maybe Grapefruit, much less likely Axel.
I work at the time of the current deadline so I would appreciate the extension. Also an extension would always help me out as I am town and want more discussion to occur. Intrinsically now, anybody who rejects the extension looks scummy which is a problem.
Really want to express how much I dislike Crossbell's posting.
Was a slight pressure vote now is an actual vote.
Like DV didn't even realize he wasn't voting me. Really absurd disengagement. I called out him for defending Wisp by chainsawing a vote and he quibbled about my wording instead of engaging with my read. And then he blusters about how I'm not engaging with a read which is clearly bogus and OMGUS from him? This is classic scum DV struggling to find a logical foothold to push town and jumping on what he sees as a LHF wagon alongside a buddy. Probably DoTA, maybe Grapefruit, much less likely Axel.
Jesus christ stop the adhoms and explain your reads.
There's no adhom in there. And unlike you, my reads have been explained in detail. If you have more specific questions then you can engage in questions rather than spewing yourself scum.
We got 3 people who play their own game in this topic
Grape, DV, and Osie to a lesser extent
so its somewhat useless to bother with trying to change their minds, until we get a dead body that either proves them right or makes them have to re-evaluate
Meh. I like usual have been trying to get others to play. I never really solo the game unless I feel there is no engagement from anyone. Part of why I think you, Cantrip, and Proph are town here is that you are engaging with other players in good faith.
on a more serious note, I really don't think its Osie anymore
but nobody cares what I think
and I'm also to fence-sitty to bother
as well as I can't explain things well anyways
But yeah, you're literally just not reading the game correctly.
I think Grape is scum because I think Osie/GJ is town. If I assume that, then he is the most likely player out of the four people who were on Osie (DV/Grape/Axel/DoTA) to be pushing him with a dishonest mindset. His push/vote on me is also extremely agenda based. He's trying to chain a mislunch on me into a mislunch on the Osie slot with this post:
Quote from Grapefruit21 »
That's fair. I still think the slot has a decent chance to be scum. Less than I did before I knew the cross was Osie but still not zero. Especially since GJ's not scum with Proph and Proph's wall was howling.
Also define Agenda based.
What does that word even mean?
Mafia have an agenda - a plan they want to work towards to reach their desired gamestate, which in most cases is lylo. Townies want to solve the game and lunch scum - they don't have any sort of pre-defined plan, they just want to see the people they're scumreading flip red.
I think Grapefruit's play is heavily agenda-based, and is focused around the idea of mislunching me and Osie/GJ so that the game reaches five man lylo with four flipped townies and no flipped scum.
Dear god who taught you how to create an argument?
You need to quote some Grape posts and explain how they are agenda driven. Saying that they are doesn't make them so.
Also, I'm going to ask you for the 3rd time now. How is Osie's behavior of dismissing/discrediting others different than those that you have scum read for the same thing?
So here's my explanation as to why I think Osie is town. Keep in mind that I'm like.. 70% confident on this - I've interacted with Osie a lot, but it's rare for us to be in any games together. As a result, I don't have a great framework for what his scumrange is. Hence why people (namely Wisp) have gotten the impression that I'm sort of wishy-washy on me defending him - I just don't want to be /wrong/. I like to think that one of my strengths is identifying and preventing the mislunch of low-hanging fruit players, but I'm just consistently terrified of being wrong and being a virtual asset to the scum team, hence the second-guessing. Here goes though:
First off, I had kind of a null-slightly negative impression of Osie's posts. He was playing intentionally curt, which is something I've seen from Osie in the past (he likes to give strong reads with little explanation of his mindset or how he got that way), which is why I asked him to clarify/expand on his reasoning in #71.
Then he posts his #98 read wall, which was just way too early for something like that. I skimmed through the wall without fully digesting it, and my first gut impression was also negative. But given that Osie copied my avatar across an old site and was trying to roleplay/emulate my playstyle, I kind of accepted it as null since I know I have a habit of jumping the gun too early. This is what I said at the time:
Quote from Prophylaxis »
I'll look at/respond to Cross's wall in the morning. Preliminary thoughts are that the wall feels like it's trying to roleplay/emulate me, but I also find objectively speaking that posting a huge read wall when most players (Cantrip, KJ, DoTA, Axel) have not really sat down and played the game yet is.. not the best look?
I'm all for more discussion, but the wallpost feels intentionally played up - which is easily explained by the fact that the account holder behind the Crossbell alt is deliberately trying to emulate my posting style. Blegh.
I watched Osie interact with Wisp here (on page 3) and I also felt that they were trying to lean into the roleplay harder, with stuff like the Minamimoto image, the "lols" and "lmaos" at end of sentences, and off-the-cuff responses without punctuation (#113). I prodded with them about their Wisp progression and their response was fine.
I then went back on page 4 and actually took time to read and comprehend their wall on post 98 instead of just skimming it, and I did not find many major structural problems with the post. Yes, overeager, yes, deliberately trying to emulate my style, but I didn't think it came from a malicious mindset. Again, you can see me comprehend the post here:
Quote from Prophylaxis »
I like how you charted your thought process behind your Wisp read; I have a different perspective on his first couple of posts but I'll get into that after I've finished catching up. I don't think Grape has done much of anything alignment indicative thus far - I'll try to sort him as the Day progresses.
I think DV is playing very intentionally curt, and I remember I could find him as town in past games by watching how he explains his thought process and mindset. So far, he's mostly tunneling me and you. I want him to hopefully disengage a bit and focus more on the other players OR talk to/engage with us since we both are pretty active posters at the moment.
IMO, you're jumping the gun with Axel, and I think his alignment should become clearer as Day 1 progresses. Not sure how this will manifest in this game, but the Axel I know isn't a huge Day 1 poster and generally locks things up more towards the mid/endgame. It's been a long while since he randed wolf, but I don't think his wolf game is of particular note? I'm pretty sure his last wolf game was Amistarian III, and his team kinda lurked until they lost. So unless he's wolfed offsite or something, or gotten better at wolfing since that game, I would wait and see WRT his alignment.
So I went into this wall expecting to critique a fair bit of Crossbell's process but I can sort of see where they're coming from. I'll take a look at their more recent big wallpost in a bit.
I keep interacting with Osie and I am using him sort of a sounding board to re-evaluate my own reads, like the one scumread I had on Wisp at the time:
Quote from Prophylaxis »
Crossbell had a good point where him getting frustrated with dealing with both of us might point to him being town, though - but I still having a lot of concerns/misgivings about Wisp that I will hopefully get the chance to air out... right now.
Quote from Crossbell »
With 2 miselims and 2 scum, this is effectively a micro, my home turf. Solving the micros quickly and off of hard and fast worldbuilding is usually more effective than hoping you're going to get a ton of information out of two and a half day phases maximum, IMO.
I also bought this from him as an explanation as to why he was trying to read so hard into scraps.
Now I post my townread on Osie here:
Quote from Prophylaxis »
My sole townread at this point is Crossbell because 1) I think they're thinking about the game in a fairly nuanced fashion, 2) I think the early wagon on them was pushed in bad faith, and 3) sort by postcount become werewolf expert.
He was playing in a pretty disorganized fashion, but I could see how he was trying to work, talk, and engage with other players. His scumread on Axelrod based on his awkward opener made sense (even if I disagreed about pressuring him at the time), and it parallels what I saw with regards to Wisp. He was talking to Wisp and amped up the roleplay to see how he'd react, and came out of it from a null read to a townread of Wisp. He was trying to sort out his DoTA read here before eventually deciding to vote him with me:
Quote from Crossbell »
I kinda think that DoTA actually believes what he's saying despite having the tonal dissonance of a chromatic scale of tritones.
He kind of had lower activity at this point and then he replaced out, so yeah.
tl;dr - I just don't see the maliciousness. Osie was super over the top and hyperactive, but I think he has constant foot-in-mouth syndrome like me, and that was even more amplified because he chose to intentionally emulate my posting style. I feel like if he randed scum this game, he would have been a lot more reserved and play more by-the-book rather than ruffle people's feathers early.
Proph how do you justify that you used Osie as a soundboard for the Wisp read, yet your entire Wisp read was realuvated based on your own reread of his meta?
But yeah, you're literally just not reading the game correctly.
I think Grape is scum because I think Osie/GJ is town. If I assume that, then he is the most likely player out of the four people who were on Osie (DV/Grape/Axel/DoTA) to be pushing him with a dishonest mindset. His push/vote on me is also extremely agenda based. He's trying to chain a mislunch on me into a mislunch on the Osie slot with this post:
Quote from Grapefruit21 »
That's fair. I still think the slot has a decent chance to be scum. Less than I did before I knew the cross was Osie but still not zero. Especially since GJ's not scum with Proph and Proph's wall was howling.
Also Tapping wasn't a troll. He actively wanted to win and was just a jackass about it. He had an over inflated ego which made him think his sometimes rather poor points were better than they were, but he did want to win.
It's been literally years and years since I've played with him, so apologies if my memory isn't up to snuff.
Yeah no its OK, you saw me compare you and you wanted to come up with the most flippant remark instead of going "Oh yeah top poster does not equal pro-town".
But yeah, you're literally just not reading the game correctly.
I think Grape is scum because I think Osie/GJ is town. If I assume that, then he is the most likely player out of the four people who were on Osie (DV/Grape/Axel/DoTA) to be pushing him with a dishonest mindset. His push/vote on me is also extremely agenda based. He's trying to chain a mislunch on me into a mislunch on the Osie slot with this post:
Quote from Grapefruit21 »
That's fair. I still think the slot has a decent chance to be scum. Less than I did before I knew the cross was Osie but still not zero. Especially since GJ's not scum with Proph and Proph's wall was howling.
I'm entirely aware, its the reason you are scum reading me as well.
As I said "Self-centered". Your entire reads are centered around people scum reading you and your "assessment" of the game. Instead of hunting scum your entire reads are centered around protecting your town reads. Its not about hunting, its about removing threats to your "towncore". Its buddying to the extreme.
At the end of the day you can't point to a single read that was influnced by an outside perspective. Your wisp read was effected by your own read of his meta and then changed by your own opinion of his meta. Your grape read? Influenced by your town reads. Your Osie read? A stuck record despite the fact that you are calling other people scum for "Discrediting" despite the fact that Osie was the largest progenitor of this. You have yet to respond to that.
My reads have evolved a *****ton. I was heavily scumreading Wisp early game; now he's one of my strongest townreads. I pressured DoTA; now he's a neutral/need to re-evaluate. I was townreading Grape early; now he's my strongest scumread. Axel was a nullread up until he started posting; now he's also a decently strong townread.
You are blatantly incorrect with how you've been characterizing my posts.
That's straight up not what you said.
You said reading Grape town early. Post 300 is not early, its halfway through this game.
You did explain that read about Wisp, but by 50 posts later you changed your read on him. You also didn't post anything about him inbetween those two posts. You scum read Wisp early based on "Awkwardness" then forced a scum read based on meta, then reversed when nobody bit onto that wagon.
When it comes to Axel your town read on him evolved EXACTLY how you said it would, I don't understand if you can't read your own words or if you think you need to write counterpoints to everything. As you said
IMO, you're jumping the gun with Axel, and I think his alignment should become clearer as Day 1 progresses. Not sure how this will manifest in this game, but the Axel I know isn't a huge Day 1 poster and generally locks things up more towards the mid/endgame.
I agree with this, he posted more you "felt" better about him.
Also Tapping wasn't a troll. He actively wanted to win and was just a jackass about it. He had an over inflated ego which made him think his sometimes rather poor points were better than they were, but he did want to win.
My reads have evolved a *****ton. I was heavily scumreading Wisp early game; now he's one of my strongest townreads. I pressured DoTA; now he's a neutral/need to re-evaluate. I was townreading Grape early; now he's my strongest scumread. Axel was a nullread up until he started posting; now he's also a decently strong townread.
You are blatantly incorrect with how you've been characterizing my posts.
Yeah no.
You're read on Axel was "neutral" but evolved exactly how you said you would evolve it.
IMO, you're jumping the gun with Axel, and I think his alignment should become clearer as Day 1 progresses. Not sure how this will manifest in this game, but the Axel I know isn't a huge Day 1 poster and generally locks things up more towards the mid/endgame. It's been a long while since he randed wolf, but I don't think his wolf game is of particular note? I'm pretty sure his last wolf game was Amistarian III, and his team kinda lurked until they lost. So unless he's wolfed offsite or something, or gotten better at wolfing since that game, I would wait and see WRT his alignment.
Heavily scum reading Wisp equals
Unvote, vote Lastwhisper
His early posts feel incredibly clumsy to me.
You then said this
Still think Wisp is scum but that's my only real hard read right now. Everyone else is at various shades of null (or not posting).
But between posts 30 and 131 you never said anything else more about your scum read on Wisp.
You also never town read Grape early. In fact in post 160 you said
I like how you charted your thought process behind your Wisp read; I have a different perspective on his first couple of posts but I'll get into that after I've finished catching up. I don't think Grape has done much of anything alignment indicative thus far - I'll try to sort him as the Day progresses.
As to why you are scum reading Grape I couldn't tell you because you've never written a word about it other than to say that Grape is scum.
So you're just 100% lying about the entire game state. You're either scum or you're useless town. Either way you seem correct to me since I need to parse both you and Osie out at somepoint.
I'm pretty comfortable with how this game is going overall (nine players, 550+ post, everyone has a *****ton of stances they've taken) but man people sure don't like how I'm playing this game, huh?
Did you really just say "Both sides find me wrong so I must be doing something right"?
Dude, I've been one of the most active players in the game, I have been vigorously been working through my reads and getting others to explain their viewpoints, and you claim that I haven't been pro town?
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Being active is not an equation to pro-town. Tappingstones was an active player.
Your reads have basically not evolved at all since the begining of the game you've not synthesized any other players opinions into your reads and you are hypocritical to a fault. See Osie.
Yeah I'm sold on this.
Dear god who taught you how to create an argument?
You need to quote some Grape posts and explain how they are agenda driven. Saying that they are doesn't make them so.
Also, I'm going to ask you for the 3rd time now. How is Osie's behavior of dismissing/discrediting others different than those that you have scum read for the same thing?
Proph how do you justify that you used Osie as a soundboard for the Wisp read, yet your entire Wisp read was realuvated based on your own reread of his meta?
He's not wrong. That slot kinda needs to go.
Also you ingored the other half of his reason for the vote, but keep saying that you are not agenda based.
Also define Agenda based.
What does that word even mean?
Yeah no its OK, you saw me compare you and you wanted to come up with the most flippant remark instead of going "Oh yeah top poster does not equal pro-town".
You want to talk about discrediting this is that.
As I said "Self-centered". Your entire reads are centered around people scum reading you and your "assessment" of the game. Instead of hunting scum your entire reads are centered around protecting your town reads. Its not about hunting, its about removing threats to your "towncore". Its buddying to the extreme.
At the end of the day you can't point to a single read that was influnced by an outside perspective. Your wisp read was effected by your own read of his meta and then changed by your own opinion of his meta. Your grape read? Influenced by your town reads. Your Osie read? A stuck record despite the fact that you are calling other people scum for "Discrediting" despite the fact that Osie was the largest progenitor of this. You have yet to respond to that.
That's straight up not what you said.
You said reading Grape town early. Post 300 is not early, its halfway through this game.
You did explain that read about Wisp, but by 50 posts later you changed your read on him. You also didn't post anything about him inbetween those two posts. You scum read Wisp early based on "Awkwardness" then forced a scum read based on meta, then reversed when nobody bit onto that wagon.
When it comes to Axel your town read on him evolved EXACTLY how you said it would, I don't understand if you can't read your own words or if you think you need to write counterpoints to everything. As you said
I agree with this, he posted more you "felt" better about him.
Yeah no.
You're read on Axel was "neutral" but evolved exactly how you said you would evolve it.
Heavily scum reading Wisp equals
You then said this
But between posts 30 and 131 you never said anything else more about your scum read on Wisp.
You also never town read Grape early. In fact in post 160 you said
As to why you are scum reading Grape I couldn't tell you because you've never written a word about it other than to say that Grape is scum.
So you're just 100% lying about the entire game state. You're either scum or you're useless town. Either way you seem correct to me since I need to parse both you and Osie out at somepoint.
Vote Proph
Did you really just say "Both sides find me wrong so I must be doing something right"?
Being active is not an equation to pro-town. Tappingstones was an active player.
Your reads have basically not evolved at all since the begining of the game you've not synthesized any other players opinions into your reads and you are hypocritical to a fault. See Osie.
Yeah that's not pro-town.
Or if Proph is just playing in his own world and ignoring everyone else.
Either way Proph hasn't been pro-town this game.