Quote from xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx »The absence of ZDS who could become the top wagon even by mistake is noted.
Quote from Ampharos »zds roughly 80x more villagery than in voldemort
Quote from Highroller »Would be willing to lynch the following people today: ZDS, Proph, or Cayvie. (Sorry Cayvie, I know you just switched in, but your predecessor, Jackrito, did nothing but bandwagon all day.)
Someone needs to explain to me exactly why CropCircles is a better lynch candidate than the above, because the CropCircles wagon has been awful.
Quote from cayvie »he's also like "this post of cc's feels townie" and from what i can see it's just a random paragraph that i can't make any particular alignment read off of.
Quote from ZeDorkSlipeur »Oh and also, the line about going after you rather than Proph for "vague and safe non-stances" is a reimagining of the yes-stance argument, which was about whether your stances were stance or not.
Quote from TheRealStinkyJoeTerry »Im mobile only so can’t get into too many details, but I found this very interesting: The two players I was interested in voting after my recap were CC and Vaimes. Then shortly after CC makes a big catch up post that doesn’t even mention vaimes once. I don’t see how vaimes could just be completely omitted by someone (CC) doing a review especially because the person just voting you and like I said obviously baiting you pointed vaimes out as potential scum as well.
So I want to go back and look more carefully at their interactions because I’m wanting to make sure I’m not just tunneling, because you know only scum tunnel right? (Yes that’s a pointed and sarcastic remark aimed at you ZDS)
Quote from CropCircles42 »I voted for ZDS because I couldn't follow his logic. See here:Quote from ZDS when voting me »And no the irony of accusing him of doing what he's accusing Proph of doing is not lost on me. But there's my second issue with this post: whereas Proph is experimenting by looking for lurkers too early and is ******* up as a result, CC hides carefully in a dark corner and seems to mostly focus on not ******* up. To bring back the digestive track, Proph had guts, CC has none.Quote from Me in response »The real difference here is that Proph put a target on half the players in the game for something that obviously isn't actually telling at all. It was clearly too early in the game to start lurker hunting as several of us hadn't even checked in. My accusation was against unjustified bandwagon votes, which is an accusation against just two players and is for a legitimate reason. As opposed to a meaningless accusation against half the town.ZDS admits that he's accusing me of the same thing I was accusing Proph of, but he paints it as "hiding in dark corners" (not sure what that's supposed to mean) and says that makes it worse. That doesn't track.
Let me put it this way: if making "vague and safe non-stances" is telling, why would he go after me and not Proph for the Poppin Bottles(tm)? He acknowledges this contradiction (probably to hang a lantern on it), but that doesn't change the fact that it is a contradiction. This leads me to believe he is inventing the reason for his vote. I would have voted for him regardless of whether he used this logic against me or against someone else. I am not confusing my attack on ZDS as an defense of myself, but I think people are taking it that way.
Quote from ZDS when voting me »And no the irony of accusing him of doing what he's accusing Proph of doing is not lost on me. But there's my second issue with this post: whereas Proph is experimenting by looking for lurkers too early and is ******* up as a result, CC hides carefully in a dark corner and seems to mostly focus on not ******* up. To bring back the digestive track, Proph had guts, CC has none.
Quote from Me in response »The real difference here is that Proph put a target on half the players in the game for something that obviously isn't actually telling at all. It was clearly too early in the game to start lurker hunting as several of us hadn't even checked in. My accusation was against unjustified bandwagon votes, which is an accusation against just two players and is for a legitimate reason. As opposed to a meaningless accusation against half the town.
Quote from Silvercrys3467 »@ZDS: You acknowledged I don't believe my suspects are the exact wolf team; I'm not sure what the distinction is between that and "there's probably a wolf voting him" but there isn't one for me lol
Quote from Grapefruit21 »It's not universal but an early reversal on a read like that is more common for townies. Going from "this pile on is suspicious [ergo this person is clean]" to "actually I'm going to join" is the right sort of contradictory. It's a natural if jagged evolution of thought. Not pure band wagoning, but clearly thinking about things even if I disagree with the conclusions.
Quote from Highroller »Having said that, I would suggest using your energies less on arguing whether or not you're more relevant, and more on arguing why you're not mafia. Yes? Sound good?
Quote from Prophylaxis »don't really know how i feel when CC posts stuff that warrants JT suspicion but ends it on the "i'll give it a pass for now". like, if they're buddies, this has to be... like TOO blatant
Quote from ZeDorkSlipeur »Also Proph stop voting Vaimes
get to be town by elimination.
Quote from Silvercrys3467 »I'm not going to town read him just because there's probably a wolf voting him
Quote from 307 »he's saying "Silver, I think you're suspicious because you aren't town reading CropCircles who is being voted by all of your wolf suspects"
Quote from Grapefruit21 »Jack doesn't point to what ZDS is doing differently this game,
Quote from TheRealStinkyJoeTerry »Hope that helps, I doubt it will because you already seem like you're tunneled. It's almost a sure thing that anyone who posts anything substantial like I did to catch up, will be attacked because it's content, content that people can like or dislike. You can like or dislike what I said, but I'm putting myself out there and giving my thoughts, I'm not hiding. I literally do this almost every game I play in and every time I get heat for it as either alignment. It's not because I'm bad at this game or that I'm scummy, it's just content for people to pick at during an otherwise slowly moving game and I'm happy to provide the discourse.
Quote from TheRealStinkyJoeTerry »Bah
CC didn't take my obvious bait. It just means that CC isn't obvious scum. Recalibrating...
Quote from Highroller »His salient contributions to the game were - and indeed still continue to be -
Quote from Highroller »At best it is a myopia to what is actually going on in-game,
Quote from Silvercrys3467 »Silvercrys
is roughly where I'm at
Quote from CropCircles42 »I was going to point out that this only makes sense if Highroller is town, but then I remembered that you probably know he's not mafia because he wasn't listed in your role PM.
Quote from Prophylaxis »I'm not very familiar with scum ZDS, but is he the type of player to instigate a wagon on his buddy?
Quote from Vaimes »I will now present my "the scumteam is JT/Jack/Axel" case, courtesy of Jackrito.Quote from Jackrito »Axel can be town because being proactive and I like his posts.Quote from Jackrito »DK and JT are too low content to be valid trains just yet imo.Thus concludes my "the scumteam is JT/Jack/Axel" case, courtesy of Jackrito.
Quote from Jackrito »Axel can be town because being proactive and I like his posts.
Quote from Jackrito »DK and JT are too low content to be valid trains just yet imo.