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Apr 7, 2019SonofaBith75 posted a message on Magic Market Index for March 15th, 2019Why in the introduction to this write up does it say this is a weekly series (not once, but twice), and here we are on April 7th, 14 weeks into the year, and there’s been a grand total of 3 of these in 2019? These don’t even happen frequently enough to be considered monthly, let alone weekly.Posted in: Articles
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Why does Wizards do anything they do? $
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/community-forums/community-discussion/655145-mtgsalvation-forum-rules?comment=2
Don’t necro 5+ year old posts.
Have you seen the price of a NM Wild Draw 4 lately?
No Underground Sea? These are reprints, not repacks. What possibly made you think the Reserve List was going away?
Do you think the biggest announcement in the last 20 plus years in Magic history would be announced by way of a card list spoiler?
And, while they may not acknowledge the secondary market, you believed there was a chance Wizards might be reprinting $300, $400, $450 cards? SMH, where has common sense gone...
Agreed that 21 good cards out of 1000-2000 cards are not great odds, but you’re misunderstanding a few things of your own.
First, while you do touch on the number of spoiled cards, this list of cards was made looking at a list of a little over 400 spoiled cards. Whereas with an official Wizards set spoiler we all should know by now we tend to get the best cards spoiled early, and the remainder spoilers are chaff, but that’s not the case here. We’ve seen only 21 high priced cards out of ~400 cards because that’s what’s been opened. It’s not guaranteed, but if we’ve only seen say 25% to 33% percent of the cards (assuming 1200 to 1600 cards) it stands to reason that we’ve seen only 25% to 33% of the good cards. Again, because this isn’t a typical spoiler, there’s no reason to think unseen cards are chaff. That would mean conceivably there are 63 to 84 more money cards in the set.
Second, while correct that we don’t know the price of these packs and that will most assuredly have a bearing on the overall merits of this set, your choosing of “21 cards” indicates you’re referring to the first portion of my list. A lot of the 18 cards I put in that second group ($4-$10) were at the high end of that range, at $8 or $9. Most people would be pretty happy to pull $8 or $9 cards out of their pack, and if we use the same ratio of good cards spoiled to total cards, that means we could see another 50-70 cards of worth in them.
Third, you’re neglecting that while the set is indeed very large and will serve to dilute the dollar value of the pack, you’re getting TWO rares per pack, not one.
Third, it’s being shown cards are appearing at their regular, original rarities. Meaning in addition to your two rares, you can pull a $24 Demonic Tutor in the UC slot, or a $16 Rhystic as a common.
Price of the packs will definitely determine the success of these. However with 25-33% of the set spoiled, there is no reason to dismiss the set based on content.
EDIT: since my above list was compiled, and since all other content in this post, the following cards have been revealed: All is Dust $6, Eldrazi Monument $7, Purphoros $20, Queen Marchessa $20, Gitrog Monster $7, Athreos $16.
And as for that list, I played 6 hours of Commander yesterday against 6 or 7 opponents, and 5 hours on Wednesday against 4 completely different opponents and without exaggeration saw all but Sorin and Bauble in the first list, and all but Chromatic Star, Toxin Sliver, Hedron Crab, Temporal Mastery, Asceticism and Lightning Helix and Lightning Bolt in the other lists. That’s 34 out of 43 mentioned cards on the table, either in front of me or coming at me in just 2 play sessions.
Every one of those cards attributes their price to playability and not scarcity with the exceptions of Mana Crypt, Teferi’s Protection, Rhystic Study, and Bloom Tender, whose prices are due to an equal combination of scarcity and playability, and maybe Defense of the Heart (which I’d agree weighs towards scarcity). How can I qualify this? Because with the exception of those 5 cards, none of the others are hard to come by; most everything on that list saw a printing or reprinting in the last 2 to 3 years, therefore their price is attributable to playability. Norn has 3 printings, excluding the judge foil and still commands $18. Grave Titan 3 printings and a promo, still $13.
Mana Crypt $190
Kolaghan’s Command $23
Elesh Norn $18
Sliver Hivelord $20
Demonic Tutor $24
Rhystic Study $16
Teferi’s Protection $37
Aura Shards $13
Bloom Tender $47
Kiki-Jiki $13
Teferi, TA $15
Alhamarrett’s Archive $12
Animar $13
Tireless Tracker $13
Defense of the Heart $16
Grave Titan $13
Soren Markov $11
Recruiter of the Guard $18
Rhys the Redeemed $30
Mishra’s Bauble $10
Phyrexian Arena $10
$4-$10 cards like Manamorphose, Sol Ring, Caged Sun, Kruphix, Lightning Greaves, Birds, Chromatic Star, Toxin Sliver, Solemn Simulacrum, PHyrexian Metamorph, Lotus Petal, Asceticism, Chromatic Lantern, Hedron Crab, Dictate of Erebos, Basilisk Collar, Baleful Strix, Temporal Mastery...
Sub-$4 format All Stars like Thran Dynamo, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Helix, Rune-scarred Demon, Skullclamp...
That’s “meh”? Seriously, get better at evaluating, you’re terrible at it.
Other then fetches, what more kind of things are people looking for in a reprint set? And the list I compiled was with about 400 cards spoiled, with anywhere from 600 to 1600 more cards to come.