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  • posted a message on Petition to put a "Dont face Mono Red decks" option in Free Play
    My first suggestion would be to change your MTGS handle.
    Posted in: MTG Arena
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Quote from Buffsam89 »
    Quote from SonofaBith75 »
    Don’t need you to fix anything, thanks.

    If you look through this thread, you’ll see a post of mine where Gavin Verhey, Wizards employee, acknowledges shortcoming in last years decks. Meaning, while not terrible, they weren’t great and could be improved upon. Quality of newly created cards is always debatable, cards that work for some, don’t work for all. There is NO REASON a deck can have good reprints along with the new cards. Gavin ADMITS IT. He also says they’re listening to players complaints and said they’d address it. 50% in, his words are untrue.

    As for the list of cards I used, it’s not my personal want list. With the exception of the BAttlebond duals and the Medallions, the cards I listed WERE THE MOST POPULAR CARDS BY TYPE IN THE EDH FORMAT, in terms of their appearance in the quantities of decks on EDHREC. So save your pithy, condescending attitude and stop acting like requesting one or two $7 to $12 cards (most on that list are sub-$10) per deck and perhaps one or two of the $20 cards total across all four decks is an unreasonable request. They are the MOST PLAYED CARDS IN THE FORMAT. Yes, they may have been printed in the past, but some, like Propaganda haven’t been seen in 3 years, or 4 years since Arena. And just stop pretending like adding one or two of each of those cards per deck, which we haven’t seen in years is “reprinting the same decks as previous years”. Such a lame argument. Two cards per deck we haven’t seen in years is not the same deck. And BTW, Sun Titan says hello (for the third time).

    So, to sum up:
    -person that oversees the decks acknowledges the reprints have been lacking in the last years Commander product.
    -that person said they’d improve on that, and 50% of the way through, that’s untrue.
    -the cards on my list are among THE MOST PLAYED IN THE FORMAT (per the decks submitted to EDHREC) and are not too highly priced so as to deliver an unreasonable EV. I carefully avoided financially unreasonable cards.
    -a good number of those cards on that list have seen an appearance in the Commander decks before.

    So PLEASE, enlighten me as to why I’m being unreasonable, and try to do it where YOU’RE not the one looking foolish.


    Ah yes, the “I’ll type in caps to make my POINT SOUND BETTER” approach.

    How about this. How do those cards play into the deck themes, and how would you balance them?

    And for HOW YOU ARE BEING UNREASONABLE? Well, for starters, I said most of those reprints you want were already printed in Commander products. So, no for that. Next, you suggested cards that foster games that aren’t incredibly enjoyable, so no to that too. Then you ask for cards that exist in other supplemental product, like Battlebond, so why share those cards with a product that’s basically the same thing? So no to that as well.

    There, happy? No? Didn’t think so. And nobody cares...

    And stop barking about wanting this to play with noobs, everyone benefits from having better cards


    I don’t think that’s the point. These decks have a predetermined theme and are expected to play well against each other. Slamming reprints, specifically powerful ones like THAT ONE GUY ASKED FOR, into the decks creates gameplay issues out of the box.

    So, the cards need to fit the theme and play well against each other. Unfortunately, that lops off quite a few cards. But it is to be expected.


    I never “asked for” “Slamming reprints, specifically powerful ones”. Resorting to reductio ad absurdum OR attempting to put words in my mouth just demonstrates you have no argument. What I DID say was “1-2 cards of the $7 to $12 variety” per deck (so minimum 4, maximum 8), and “1-2 cards total across all four decks of the ~$20 variety”. So that’s a total of minimum 5 cards (4/1) or a maximum 10 cards (8/2) in total. That’s between 1.25 and 2.5 cards per deck, solely for the purpose of providing easy, affordable access to cards that are staples in the format. If 1.25 to 2.5 cards to you is “slamming” them into a deck in your mind, most would disagree with you.

    As for gameplay balance, do you really think Wizards can’t design decks to accommodate the strength of 2 quality reprints per deck? LOL, whatever. Likewise, your argument is weak when you cherrypick certain cards in my list (which BTW was not meant to be comprehensive, but I thought nearly 40 examples was enough to make my point), such as the tutors and the feelbads, when cards like Chromatic Lantern, Thought Vessel, and Expedition Map were also valid suggestions and would serve my point and serve their purpose just as well.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on {C19} Mystic intelect full deck list + command zone preview card - Elsha of the Infinite
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Quote from SonofaBith75 »
    Sun Titan is a “biggest highlight”? The card has EIGHT prior printings, with your choice of three arts and is a $4 card. Not denying the quality of the card, but rather the merits of it being considered a good reprint.


    Your kidding right it’s almost impossible to not spot a sun titan in any deck involving white this makes it easier for newer and budget players to snag one

    Besides when I said highlight I mean commander playable reprint wise


    No, I’m not kidding, because a $4 card with 8 printings is both affordably and readily available to anyone that wants it. We only get so many reprints per deck, and using up one of those slots on something with 8 printings is not needed, when something else could be used instead. Again, I’m not talking playability, I’m calling it a bad reprint.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Quote from FearDReaper »
    I don't particularly care about reprints either. They're nice gravy but they're not what gets me so hyped for the product every year


    But why do new, exciting cards have to preclude worthwhile reprints, particularly staple reprints?

    Just as an example, all the Medallions save one, are $5 or less, so why not put the one that corresponds to a decks most dominant color across all decks? It’s impossible to believe that the makers of Magic can’t strike a deck balance and include a $7 highly played card at the same time.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Don’t need you to fix anything, thanks.

    If you look through this thread, you’ll see a post of mine where Gavin Verhey, Wizards employee, acknowledges shortcoming in last years decks. Meaning, while not terrible, they weren’t great and could be improved upon. Quality of newly created cards is always debatable, cards that work for some, don’t work for all. That said, there is NO REASON a deck can’t have good reprints along with the new cards. Gavin ADMITS IT. He also says they’re listening to players complaints and said they’d address it. 50% in, his words are untrue.

    Gavin Verhey: With that said, to your point about making sure Commander decks are chock-full of exciting reprints, we are looking at putting a lot of good reprints in Commander decks, I know that for some people 2018 didn’t have as many as they would have liked. We incorporated that feedback and going forward we’re definitely looking at the kind and number of reprints we’re putting in”.

    As for the list of cards I used, it’s not my personal want list. With the exception of the BAttlebond duals and the Medallions, the cards I listed WERE THE MOST POPULAR CARDS BY TYPE IN THE EDH FORMAT, in terms of their appearance in the quantities of decks on EDHREC. So save your pithy, condescending attitude and stop acting like requesting one or two $7 to $12 cards (most on that list are sub-$10) per deck and perhaps one or two of the $20 cards total across all four decks is some far-fetched, unreasonable request. They are the MOST PLAYED CARDS IN THE FORMAT.

    Yes, they may have been printed in the past, but some, like Propaganda haven’t been seen in 3 years, or 4 years since Arena, or 8 since Aura Shards. And let’s just stop pretending like adding one or two of each of those cards per deck, which we haven’t seen in three or four years is “reprinting the same decks”. Such a lame argument. Two cards per deck we haven’t seen in 3 to 8 years is not the same deck. And BTW, Sun Titan says hello (for the third time).

    So, to sum up:
    -person that oversees the decks acknowledges the reprints have been lacking in the last years Commander product.
    -that person said they’d improve on that, and 50% of the way through, that’s untrue.
    -the cards on my list are among THE MOST PLAYED IN THE FORMAT (per the decks submitted to EDHREC) and are not too highly priced so as to deliver an unreasonable EV. I carefully avoided financially unreasonable cards.
    -a good number of those cards on that list have seen an appearance in the Commander decks before.

    So PLEASE, enlighten me as to why I’m being unreasonable, and try to do it where YOU’RE not the one looking foolish. I have facts (evidence) on my side why it’s NOT.

    Honestly, you’re arguing that roughly six sub-$10 STAPLES and a perhaps a pair of $20 cards is something totally unreasonable across four decks in a product that costs $160 (using last years MSRP). Quit acting like lowering the costs for newer or less affluent players is a BAD thing. That’s the hill you want to die on? EDH STAPLES, which this list is, should continue to rise in price when a simple $10 reprint can aid in alleviating that?
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on {C19} Mystic intelect full deck list + command zone preview card - Elsha of the Infinite
    Sun Titan is a “biggest highlight”? The card has EIGHT prior printings, with your choice of three arts and is a $4 card. Not denying the quality of the card, but rather the merits of it being considered a good reprint.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Apologies, Schindar, yes it was directed at the first person to complain about people being “entitled”. I corrected it.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Quote from Arwen_Spence »
    Seriously, there are times I don't know what would happen if Magic players were given nothing to whine about. Magic is releasing ludicrous amount of products in a year. Don't like these? Wait a few months and see what the Brawl decks look like and if there's anything you want out of those. At this point, when there's a product I don't really want I'm almost grateful because it means it's one less thing I have to worry about where my Magic budget is concerned.


    The level of entitlement from some folks is outrageous.





    Gavin Verhey HIMSELF admitted last years decks were underwhelming in terms of reprints, so if a Wizards employee ADMITS a mediocre product, why can’t you? You confuse “entitlement” with REASONABLE expectations to not receive yet another mediocre product. Gavin Verhey himself also acknowledged the players complaints were heard and indicated that would be remedied this year, and so far, we’ve not seen ANY evidence of this through the first two decks, although there’s still quite a bit to reveal. I for one don’t like it when someone tells me one thing and does another, especially when it comes to addressing concerns.

    There are plenty of midprice staples that could use more printings. NO ONE IS ASKING FOR, OR EXPECTING $25 or $30 singles. There are however tons of staples in the $7-$12 range that people would love to see.

    Path to Exile
    Lightning Greaves
    Mystical Tutor
    Skullclamp
    Solemn Simulacrum
    Phyrexian Arena
    Chromatic Lantern
    Shattering Spree
    Propaganda
    Aura Shards
    Though Vessel
    Expedition Map
    Sword of the Animist
    Burgeoning
    Black Market
    parallel Lives
    Song of the Dryads
    Darksteel Plate
    Petrified Field in a modern template for the first time.
    All the Battlebond dual lands.
    The Medallion cycle.

    And in the $20ish range:
    Cyclonic Rift
    Mirari’s Wake
    Strip Mine in a modern template for the first time (excluding FTV).
    Deserted Temple in a modern template for the first time.
    Rhystic Study
    Anointed Procession
    Bribery in a black border new template for the first time, excluding a foil.
    Worldly Tutor in a modern template for the first time.

    Now, not all these cards may fit within the themes we’re getting, but a great many of them are very neutral in their applications. And, maybe we’ll still see some of these, particularly Anointed Procession and Parallel Lives when we get to that deck.

    You say people are entitled. I say, have higher standards and stop settling.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on [C19] Clever Impersonator reprint
    What? I wish all highly playable Mythics were $5.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0DUGg9PDnIY&t=835s

    In which Gavin Verhey claims to have heard players dissatisfaction with the reprints of Commander 2018, and then proceeds to show that (at least after the first deck) no, no he didn’t. Talking out of your ass, Verhey.

    “Hey kids, you want better reprints? Enjoy your $7 Seedborn (soon to be $4) and don’t say I never did anything for ya!”
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on July 2019 Ban List Update
    Quote from bobthefunny »
    That's what I was thinking - Paradox Engine requires so much outside the box thinking to work. You'd need to be playing it in a deck that ramps, for example. Given that high cost of inclusion, the ban caught me off guard as well. Now that Paradox Engine is banned, there's really no point in playing cards like Sol Ring or Birds of Paradise anymore, which'll please the folks who don't like fast mana.
    I don't see it that way. It requires a deck that runs mana-artifacts. I generally tend to stay truer to land ramp, (since artifacts are sometime collateral damage), but many non-green decks will run at least a handful of artifact ramp.

    From there, it's not hard to see how any sort of tap ability, especially if your Commander has a tap ability, could lead to a powerful amount of value.


    The comment you’re replying to was 100% sarcasm.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on New Judge foil: Isolated Watchtower
    A bit of a comedown from Sliver Legion.

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on New Judge foil: Sliver Legion
    Should please a lot of people with the new boom in Sliver popularity.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Moldervine Reclamation - Commander's Brew
    Meren of Clan Nel Toth players rejoice!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M20] Scheming Symmetry - Andrea Mengucci Twitter
    Hahaha! Pair this with Ob Nixilis, Unshackled for the lulz. Pay B, opponent sac’s a creature and takes 10 to the dome.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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