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  • posted a message on Magic Showcase 2021
    “Why couldn't they just create some $15 60-card base rules precons that are upgradable? Why are they so incompetent in making such a product?”

    “It's as if WOTC is so incompetent at making $15 60-card base rules precons that they gave up.”

    The answer is simple: because Wizards understands that the secondary market exists and no product can be competitive at the $15 price tag. $30-$40 precon decks seem to be the sweet spot. They can put in ~$50-$60 worth of value, include 1-of’s, maybe 2-of’s of the pricey cards, and while you may not have a tournament winner, at least you won’t die on turn 3 while having a miserable experience. A $15 deck would need so many upgrades there wouldn’t be anything left of the $15 deck by the time you shuffle up, therefore there is no market for such a product.
    Wizards isn’t incompetent for not making $15 decks, but you likely are for thinking they can and should.
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  • posted a message on [MID] "Vengeful Extermination"— @mtgjp preview
    Yes, white has lots of options, but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve needed to wrath the board mid-game and then not had the mana left to cast another spell that same turn. The fact this can cost just WW in many cases makes it much more likely you’ll be able to drop a creature post-Wrath on the same turn.
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  • posted a message on Commander Collection: Black

    There are 4 cards here at $20 with Deluge, Lilianna, Arena, and Ophiomancer (why is this card that much? Even without a reprint that still seems high) and the cheapest are Sol Ring and Command Tower. Reanimate may not be $20, but it is ~$10.

    Looks like this is better than Green overall where that had useful stuff it was largely less value with only Sylvan Library and Worldly Tutor propping up the whole thing.



    When evaluating the value of something, you need to take into account not just the resultant values of cards, but the value of the cards prior to and up to the time of release.

    OG Omnath and the FTV version were both $30 cards at the time CC: Green was announced. Both Freyalise’s were $12-$13. Seedborn Muse is currently the 21st most used card in Green according to EDHrec and despite numerous printings, refuses to budge from its $8-$10 price tag.


    A lot of the cards in CC: Black will drop after their CC: B release, so comparing their pre-release prices to that of post-release CC: Green is apples to oranges. There was plenty of value in Green above the two cards you mentioned.
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  • posted a message on Magic Showcase 2021
    Quote from Xcric »
    way too much *****.

    most of it doesn't even appeal to me because its universes beyond. this all right after we were supposed to be hyped for upcoming innistrad previews, which were hot on the heels of idk whatever the last set was that just came out, forgotten realms? they're getting difficult to track now too.

    its just too much. they answered complaints about product flood with a deluge.

    i should be hyped for a brothers war set. i loved the book, i've read the things every single year since it was first published. i loved all of that stuff. i've wanted a proper set for it for decades now... and yet... i don't give a ****. it'll just be more of the same turn offs. all the value at mythic, too many variant borders and arts, no time to actually digest and play with the set before we're on to the next thing.

    cool?

    i'm sure the pioneer decks will be turds that are a mediocre entry point to the format... and has that format even gained traction anywhere? does anyone even care? i'm sure there'll be 1 hot card just to make the kit sell.

    then theres universes beyond, thats just too much. way too much. i hate this idea. i'm not alone. now we get it jammed down our throats like... well use whatever metaphor you prefer but regardless, its not cool.

    i didn't like the forgotten realms setting, a lot of people didn't, so here's some baldur's gate about it but now its mixed with your commander cards so you commander players are forced into it. oh you bought so much! you love the setting! universes beyond is a hit! -its manipulative bull***** right here.

    it wouldn't be so bad except that these are also game pieces. these are also game pieces that are generally pushed. these are also game pieces that are generally pushed to sell product, so if you want to stay relevant and not get absolutely steam rolled by whoever at whatever event, you're sure as ***** buying into it. that's just not fair any more.

    frankly, as hyped as i should be for some of these products, i give zero ****s and this has gone a long way toward turning me off completely. right now i'd rather spend my money on literally any other game that doesn't bombard me with new crap every single month. that doesn't exploit fomo. that doesn't push new cards and force me into them to stay relevant.

    this kind of pace and pigheadedness will be the thing that destroys magic on a long enough timeline. i'm not a sky is falling type person, haven't been in 27 years of playing... but thats how i feel after this past year and seeing what the next one will be like.



    rather than pissing and moaning about the Pioneer decklists, why not follow the link instead of making ignorant guesses?
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  • posted a message on The Book of Exalted Deeds emergency ban for standard 2022
    For the second time in less than a week: card bannings do not belong in the Rumors section.
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  • posted a message on July 2021 Commander Rules Committee Update
    Why the hell is this in the Rumor section?
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  • posted a message on [AFC] Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients— LoadingReadyRun preview
    Meh. So the dragon dies when their 1/1 chump blocks it? Should have at least lived until it does combat damage to a player.
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  • posted a message on Throne of Eldraine eBook
    Let two year old posts lie.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Riptide Laboratory— Lucas Esper Berthoud preview
    Quote from m_pathogen »
    I almost spit out my coffee FINALLY seeing this in Modern border!!!
    It’s one of the only old cards in some of my decks.



    It’s existed in Modern border for nearly 11 months now. 4 bucks on TCGP.
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  • posted a message on Foil Etched?
    Quote from user-18651724 »
    Are there people that still play white? Wink



    I don’t know. Are there still people that necro 6 month old threads (that don’t belong in the rumors forum anyway)?
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  • posted a message on [MH2] "Nykthos Exemplar"— Sebastian Pozzo preview
    Quote from Faruel »
    Here is the problem. If you attack with a creature with big attack and lifelink you get the counter after your attack and you have to wait a full turn circle until you can attack with those again.

    The best way to use this is with Trostani like effects. So he does something when you cast him for freaky 6 mana or you have some way to get big life numbers in the same turn. Which can be problematic because those high life number cards cost a ton of mana. If you are able to cheat him to the battlefield and use some of those expensive big life gain cards good for you. If you already have access to 12 mana than great.
    Small life gain cards just works better because they come in form of enchantments and with CC of max 3... sticking around granting you much more life in the end and adding some additional effects (like graveyard hate, control etc). As a cleric he would have been a little better. In my casual edh group he would be to slow in a lifegain deck other than Trostani.
    In addition he needs another card to work. Archangel of Thune has lifelink and doesn't feels so clunky.
    At the same time though, the effect can snowball quite well over successive turns. The larger your lifelink creature for example, the more life, the more power, etc. It's really so much fun. Being an enchantment gives it more synergy with cards than Archangel, including tutoring it, casting it for cheaper, and protecting it with cards like Sterling Grove.

    Man this makes me wish we had Nykthos himself, the character, as a card.



    Nykthos is a temple, not a character. Nyx is a character, but is female.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] "Nykthos Exemplar"— Sebastian Pozzo preview
    Awesome in Trostoni tokens. As long as Trostoni is on the battlefield, this dude gains you 6 life, makes all your tokens +6/6 and he himself comes in as a 10/12.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] FAce to face games -- Reprint of....IMERIAL RECRUITER!!!!!
    Quote from Crazy Pierre »
    Yeah. this is pretty unbelievable.
    Aaron Forsythe said the background told a story, but I vaguely see a claw of some kind?



    kiki-jiki and Pestermite in the background.
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