Okay, not fully sure if this is how it works but wouldn't Yarok and Panharmonicon go Infinite? Cause the way I see it is that you play a creature or artifact with an ETB effect, Panharmonicon goes off, then Yarok, and then it spirals out of control from their due to how they're wording.
No, only one permanent is entering the battlefield. Yarok and Pan will cause any etb trigger to activate two extra times. Example: Acidic Slime enters the battlefield with Yarok and Panharmonicon out already.
Slime's etb trigger triggers, causing both other cards to trigger as well.
Slime's etb trigger activates a second time due to Panharmonicon
Slime's etb trigger activates a third time due to Yarok
While the answer is correct, the terminology is misleading. To be absolutely clear:
Neither Yarok nor Pan have triggers. They have effects that just say a trigger triggers again.
And, triggers never activate; activated abilities never trigger. While it seems pedantic to mention, Rings of Brighthearth and Illusionist's Bracers are cards and mixing the two up leads to misconceptions about what those cards apply to.
I might be missing something but aren't Yavok and Pan's triggered abillities? Cause both of their wording is based on ETB Triggers, and both of them are being triggered right? Not to mention one of the rulings for Pan is, and I quote
Panharmonicon affects an artifact or creature’s own enters-the-battlefield triggered abilities as well as other triggered abilities that would trigger when an artifact or creature enters the battlefield. Such triggered abilities start with “when” or “whenever.”
triggered abilities always start with the words "when", "whenever", or "at." (It even says as much in the ruling you quoted)
neither Panharmonicon nor Yavok's ability are a triggered ability as defined by the game rules.
Thank you, just making sure cause I was both confused and concerned
Okay, not fully sure if this is how it works but wouldn't Yarok and Panharmonicon go Infinite? Cause the way I see it is that you play a creature or artifact with an ETB effect, Panharmonicon goes off, then Yarok, and then it spirals out of control from their due to how they're wording.
No, only one permanent is entering the battlefield. Yarok and Pan will cause any etb trigger to activate two extra times. Example: Acidic Slime enters the battlefield with Yarok and Panharmonicon out already.
Slime's etb trigger triggers, causing both other cards to trigger as well.
Slime's etb trigger activates a second time due to Panharmonicon
Slime's etb trigger activates a third time due to Yarok
While the answer is correct, the terminology is misleading. To be absolutely clear:
Neither Yarok nor Pan have triggers. They have effects that just say a trigger triggers again.
And, triggers never activate; activated abilities never trigger. While it seems pedantic to mention, Rings of Brighthearth and Illusionist's Bracers are cards and mixing the two up leads to misconceptions about what those cards apply to.
I might be missing something but aren't Yavok and Pan's triggered abillities? Cause both of their wording is based on ETB Triggers, and both of them are being triggered right? Not to mention one of the rulings for Pan is, and I quote
Panharmonicon affects an artifact or creature’s own enters-the-battlefield triggered abilities as well as other triggered abilities that would trigger when an artifact or creature enters the battlefield. Such triggered abilities start with “when” or “whenever.”
Okay, not fully sure if this is how it works but wouldn't Yarok and Panharmonicon go Infinite? Cause the way I see it is that you play a creature or artifact with an ETB effect, Panharmonicon goes off, then Yarok, and then it spirals out of control from their due to how they're wording.
Thank you, just making sure cause I was both confused and concerned
I might be missing something but aren't Yavok and Pan's triggered abillities? Cause both of their wording is based on ETB Triggers, and both of them are being triggered right? Not to mention one of the rulings for Pan is, and I quote