Hey Part the Waterveil! If I may share my insight;
In regards to creature base, snapcaster is still an all star in this deck but I have moved away from him and am currently running Mission Briefing instead. If you are interested in mono blue, the casting cost isn't really difficult as double blue is easy with 18 islands and it's ability to also mill irrelevant cards has been super useful. I'm not really a fan of baby Jace as it's plus once flipped doesn't really do anything relevant and it dies to all forms of removal in the format.
HOWEVER, thing in the ice I would argue is the way to go. I have been playing with 3 mainboard for the past couple weeks since Ravnica was released and it makes the deck incredibly consistent. With 3 Thing in the Ice, 2 Part the Waterveil and Jace - that makes a total of 6 win conditions that easily fit into the deck without negatively affecting the combo. I also run 4 serum vision and 2 opt so it has been extremely easy to flip Thing within 1-2 extra turns and then win. The only downside is that it makes creature removal good against the deck in a way that normally they would side out after game one. I kind of have fixed that through using gigadrowse and exhaustion as a way to tap their lands before playing thing and it has worked.
With the whole howling mine/dictate part - I don't really think there is a definitive. I tried search for a while and was convinced it was the best thing but I think I was lying to myself. You almost never want it to flip as it just becomes a blue land (since most of the time you aren't really going to loot with it and cast an extra turn spell in one turn as it requires too much mana)
Since assassin's trophy is now a thing, I have just went back to 4 dictate 3 howling mine since I haven't been seeing as much targeted artifact removal. Actually with Knight of Autumn being thrown into a lot of GWx decks lately, I could actually see myself cutting a Dictate in place of something like Ancestral Vision again..
Hope this helped.. sorry for the length lol just super tired after a week of school and in the mood to talk magic haha
Hey man! That is awesome thanks for the insightful reply that has definitely helped. I am going to cut my snap and jace for 2-3x thing in the ice. I run 11 time warp effects. Did you cut one of those to run 3x thing in the ice? Also, do you run remand in the 2 drop spot?
I have read back and definitely helped a lot but there is still a lot of confusion for me.
The things I am curious about:
Creature base: Should I run thing in the ice or a mixture of snaps and baby jace mainboard?
Mission briefing: This new card looks awesome has anyone had any testing of it? Can it replace snapcaster mage and allow me to run thing mainboard? Or do I run both mission briefing and snapcaster?
I am confused about how many jace to run. I am thinking 1-2 but leaning more towards 2 but not sure if that is correct?
I used to play only 1 howling mine and 4 dictates, but now thinking about running 4x dictate, 1x search for azcanta and 1-2 jace and no mines. Is that correct?
Also, opt/serum visions and remand/ How do they fit into the deck now?
And finally, what is the best way to set up land base now?
I have been away from game for about 2 years now. I was playing the original mono blue list before the unbanning of Jace. I was wondering what the best way to build mono blue turns is now. It seems like there are so many new resources and I have no idea where to begin.
I would like to play mono-blue so only help with mono-blue please :D.
I would also like to keep the list fairly streamlined, so any suggestions on the most optimal mono-blue list around!
Hey man! That is awesome thanks for the insightful reply that has definitely helped. I am going to cut my snap and jace for 2-3x thing in the ice. I run 11 time warp effects. Did you cut one of those to run 3x thing in the ice? Also, do you run remand in the 2 drop spot?
Thanks again your post was extremely helpful!
I have read back and definitely helped a lot but there is still a lot of confusion for me.
The things I am curious about:
Creature base: Should I run thing in the ice or a mixture of snaps and baby jace mainboard?
Mission briefing: This new card looks awesome has anyone had any testing of it? Can it replace snapcaster mage and allow me to run thing mainboard? Or do I run both mission briefing and snapcaster?
I am confused about how many jace to run. I am thinking 1-2 but leaning more towards 2 but not sure if that is correct?
I used to play only 1 howling mine and 4 dictates, but now thinking about running 4x dictate, 1x search for azcanta and 1-2 jace and no mines. Is that correct?
Also, opt/serum visions and remand/ How do they fit into the deck now?
And finally, what is the best way to set up land base now?
Thanks!
I have been away from game for about 2 years now. I was playing the original mono blue list before the unbanning of Jace. I was wondering what the best way to build mono blue turns is now. It seems like there are so many new resources and I have no idea where to begin.
I would like to play mono-blue so only help with mono-blue please :D.
I would also like to keep the list fairly streamlined, so any suggestions on the most optimal mono-blue list around!
Thanks!