Quote from sdematt
Point being, I'd like to see this as a DCI Foil
Quote from calibrettoI still have to go to work every day, so even with the schedule, I wouldn't be able to follow you around and enlighten your trade partners.
I think the biggest problem with your series and your ethics when it comes to trading is that you willingly and knowingly rip people off. Not only that, but then you basically brag about it in your articles.
Trading a $15 dollar card for a $20 dollar card and not saying anything about the price difference is one thing, but taking a guy for nearly $50 bucks? That's a little ridiculous. Why didn't you speak up there? I mean, I know it's your goal in the trades to come out ahead, but even you gotta see the obvious advantage you had over this guy. Seriously, why didn't you say to the guy, "Pick out a couple more, I got you by like $40 dollars here." I agree that the information is out there and he should have taken the time to know what his cards were worth, but it's obvious that he had no idea. I think as a trader and even a savvy card shark like yourself, it's then your job to educate that person instead of using his lack of knowledge to your advantage. That's when it starts to become a shady business.
Like I said before, 95% or more of your trades would've happened exactly the same way, regardless. But for those 5% that didn't know what kind of trade-savvy shark they were swimming with, a little honesty would've both educated them, and increased the integrity of the trading community as a whole. And as you said, education about the process of trading was a benefit of the project itself. There's no reason that education couldn't take place during the process, rather than as a result of the project.
Like you said, we're all part of the MTG "brotherhood" of sorts. I have an equal desire to A) see your project be a success, and B) defend the level of trading professionalism I extend to my trading partners. That's all.
But for me, I'd like to add the caveat that I did it with all trading parties being satisfied with the trades along the way.
That would be important to me. It may take a little longer, but it's something I'd take pride in.
Quote from PonderBro, that just makes it look like you think everyone is stupid.
you could have given the same information out, about looking out for bad traders, without being an unfair trader yourself. if you really wanted to inform readers about this unfair process.
NO!! i dont agree with you jmendina, you inspire in others, hateful thoughts.
it is wrong to advocate personal greed, and taking advantage of other people.
you spend your whole life trying to rort magic trades.
you do not help make ppl "Savvy" as you say, you encourage ppl to rip off other players, as though it were the prime importance of playing magic.
learn what "Good Sportmanship" and the word "Honesty" means
also, dont try to treat me like a naive idiot, jmendina, you are as easy to read as book. you do not "inform" players, you gloat over ripping ppl off..
i can easily tell the diffence,
also if your ever in Australia at a PTQ, i would *love* to catch up with you in person, i take great offence from attitudes like yours
I don't have a problem with trying to turn a booster pack into a black lotus. It's pretty cool, actually.
But when you start discussing how you hope the little kid you just ripped off doesn't find out how much you really value the cards you just traded for ...or when a trader's undervaluing of a card makes "cash register noises" run through your head... that becomes a different matter entirely.
I'm all for: Help me with my pack to power quest! I want to make lots of incrementally advantageous trades until I have power! So long as the people you're trading with know that they're getting the short end of the stick. Even if it's only a little at a time.
For example. If you wanted to trade me $90 worth of Lords of the Pit, I'll give you $100 in trade for 'em. I collect pit lords, and it's a fun and interesting trade that I'm down with. I know I'm getting the raw end of the deal, but I'm fine with it. I doubt you could say the same for the small business owner who unloaded his Jitte for $12, or the little kid who had his Linvella ripped for a Temple Bell and a Sundering Titan.
But hey bro, that's just me.
But I know all I need to know about "Pack to Power" to understand completely that it's something I fundamentally disagree with. That's all.
Quote from quitequieterthis raises a bit of a quandary. it's one thing when we're discussing him as a magic subject, it's another when he actually shows up. does expressing strong opinions about a magic writer become flaming when that writer is on the forum with you? is there a certain level of fame where you're exempt from those kind of concerns (i wouldn't hesitate to call tom cruise a loony nutjob, for example)? are "bloodsucking," "scum," and "dirtbag" flaming or are they just objective descriptors in this case?
he seems to be taking it well, in any case. so i guess we don't have to worry about it too much. i'd stay away from that trade thread, though.
Quote from quitequieterAWKWARD
i'm amused and curious about how you found your way to this hate fest.
hilarious side note: in between the time he posted that and the time i posted in response, medina just removed his trade thread from his sig.
Amoral bloodsuckers seem to really ruin Magic for a lot of people. But enough about John Medina.
Quote from calibretto
Wow. I'd love to be the guy that's watching the trade and then tells the guy getting ripped off just how badly he's getting ripped off right before he agrees to the trade. As a matter of fact, if I were independently wealthy and didn't have to spend my time earning a paycheck, I'd now love to make it my current mission in life to just follow Medina around at tournaments and conventions and be honest to his partners. That might ruin his current article series, but it'd make the Magic scene a better place with one less douche running around.
Quote from sdemattForces aren't 60, they're 40 for nice ones. I don't think they'll go down, even if/when they print a Judge Foil.
Bidding Wars can't be used to calculate average prices, and neither can BIN's. You should be using median prices instead of average prices, people. It's just simple statistics. Having had bidding wars several times on Ebay for Beta duals, I know it happens. There are multiple people looking/wanting the same card, and sometimes you have to have that copy. Sometimes I've gone $40 over what I wanted to pay because I wanted THAT copy, since I either need it for a set and it's nice, or I just want a NM copy. Sometimes, the other person wants it more, but you have to think about the *usual* price.
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