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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from M1ndreaver »
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Theres a very simple meta for reading Riku, if he regularly makes posts, argues with people, and just calls himself town constantly, hes 99% just town

    if he pops in for 1 or 2 posts every couple of days, then you just burn him at the stake
    I'm really struggling with this one. On the one hand, you seem to know Riku enough that this might be valuable insight, but I'm struck how damning it is for somebody who hasn't posted much.

    Like, I have you in my town column, but if you're both scum, this reads like frustration at a buddy for not posting. I don't think you make this post if you're scum and Riku isn't, that would be super obvious.

    What was the purpose behind posting this? IWouldn't it have been more effective to wait a while, in the world where you are town and you think he's scum?
    what was the purpose of question this post, at this very moment, this seems like more of a conclusion you would come to after a flip... And I won a game where my scum buddies just lurked, and I didn't get frustrated... Someone else mentioned Riku's lurking so I just mentioned it again... What are your thoughts on literally anything else?
    Maybe I'm just reading this response wrong, but why is there such aggression in the part I bolded? This isn't something that I'm harping on, or even something that I'm talking about a lot (and I have other posts on other topics). I want to understand your thought process for this post, because I do not know why you are throwing additional shade at riku like this. Also, try and keep in mind I don't know you from adam, so whatever you've done in the past is unknown to me.

    My question is specifically why town you, would make that post. If it was generated by some other lurking comment (which I didn't remember, but I'll re-read), I can understand that.

    And the timing question was me trying to figure out something and I don't want to be obvious about it. So, please try and help me understand why you'd mention riku's behavioral tells at that moment (I'm contrasting with Rhand's posts regarding Grape's word choices, which is a similar behavioral tell post; where he waited to reveal until grape had a chance to reinforce his argument). If your observation was meant to help, why not wait a few more days until a clear pattern would emerge?
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Theres a very simple meta for reading Riku, if he regularly makes posts, argues with people, and just calls himself town constantly, hes 99% just town

    if he pops in for 1 or 2 posts every couple of days, then you just burn him at the stake
    I'm really struggling with this one. On the one hand, you seem to know Riku enough that this might be valuable insight, but I'm struck how damning it is for somebody who hasn't posted much.

    Like, I have you in my town column, but if you're both scum, this reads like frustration at a buddy for not posting. I don't think you make this post if you're scum and Riku isn't, that would be super obvious.

    What was the purpose behind posting this? Wouldn't it have been more effective to wait a while, in the world where you are town and you think he's scum?
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    Also, KJ, I'm not ignoring your questions, my time is limited until later tonight. I'm off to pick up my kid, so I have to wait until he goes to sleep to write more.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    Unvote, Vote Grape

    Ugh, I have to learn to preview.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    Quote from tomsloger »
    I mean, the option that goes along with him not believing it is just saying stuff to go with blustery confidence im scum so you should wait to see if he just keeps pushing me and looking for connections or is actually thinking things through

    But now you have to watch how he reacts to being called out too so that should be fun
    Jesus Tom. You're spilling all the beans.

    I count probably 8 or 9 people in this thread that I know, that know Tom well enough, to know that we aren't gonna get a good read on him in the first few pages, even when he does something ridiculously scummy. Fair enough?

    So is it necessary to actually say that in thread?

    Now, the only two people who spoke up about that fact, when Tom did his PR-fishing (which wasn't helpful, especially because the follow up made it super obvious he found one (or did he? Or does LW want scum to think so? WIFOM fo dayz)) were Grape and Rhand.

    So in the worlds where I see Tom is scum, doing some kind of weirdo gambit (which to be fair is in his wheelhouse), I don't see Rhand proclaiming him town and also being a scumbuddy. I think that we would see buddies distancing themselves from something like that, which makes Grape's defense a little harder to swallow (he's probably town, BUT TWO RED FLAGS). That's a fence sit if I've ever seen one. Combined with his opportunistic 4th vote on LW, to keep that wagon rolling, doesn't look good.

    In the world where Tom is town and is just being Tom, Rhand's read is probably not alignment indicative either way. Scum could be buddying, or town could just be not "reading tom at level 0". Grape's comment still looks gross. Like "here is a little shade for tom, who is probably town"? I don't think that comes from town mindset. Like, I just don't see how it's helpful to state that.

    Anyway, my take-away at the moment was I don't like Grape.

    So my question for Grape is, when will you share what these red flags are? Can it be now?
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    Yeah I just saw scum Rodemy in ghostbusters, this isn't it. That #57 tho

    unvote
    vote Lastwhisper
    Explain why #57 means anything?

    Quote from tomsloger »
    Not sure what to make of last walling this early.

    Hes prolly a PR worried about looking bad and tryharding. If i were scum id kill him early
    @mafia
    this is super gross. Unvote, Vote Tom #riprvs

    I really don't like the follow up convo with whisper either. But I do appreciate getting the Rhand and Grape defenses, that will make PoE easier down the line. Speaking of...

    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Twtbaw reads are bogus if attempting to apply one to Tom. He relishes open wolfing.

    @Wisp not only was I happy being 4th I want more votes on you.


    I think this might be town Tom but there is ome giant red flag.
    Why are you speaking for tom exactly?

    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Vaimes might be scum.

    Rod might be town.

    Vote stands.
    Why Vaimes?

    OOG: FYI, weekends are usually hard for me to get on, I'l be way more active during the week.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    Quote from Rodemy »
    vote mndreaver

    For posting before the day started >:(
    yeah I am illiterate.

    Vote Grapefruit21
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Game Over - A Family in Ruins
    /confirm
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family Mafia - sign-ups FULL
    actually, nevermind, I can't count. That's 16 Smile
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family Mafia - sign-ups FULL
    sooooo close
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family Mafia - sign-ups FULL
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from M1ndreaver »
    I know it's been a while (and I'm the real deal, but apparently I can't reclaim my old account)...

    /in


    Who are you tho?

    Your worst nightmare.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family Mafia - sign-ups FULL
    I know it's been a while (and I'm the real deal, but apparently I can't reclaim my old account)...

    /in
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
  • posted a message on Dredge
    This might be an obvious question, but is Golgari Thug worth sleeving up?

    I'm seeing a few lists with darkblast in the main, and if that's the plan, do you need Thug in the list at all?

    Right now my dredgers are:

    3x life from the loam
    4x Stinkweed Imp
    2x Darkblast
    1x Dakmor Salvage
    1x Thug

    I'm wondering if I'm better off with a 4th Life from the Loam or maybe even maindecking an ancient grudge/abrupt decay/assassin's trophy to combat some of the mainboard hate I'm encountering. I'm only seeing some edge-case arguments (surgical on Stinkweed imp, putting narcomobia on top, dredging 4 VS dredging 3, ???) for thug, and I'm worried that I'm missing something.
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