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  • posted a message on Rin and Seri, Inseperable: let's brew
    Mirror Entity, Shields of Velis Vel. Double down on the cats for now as aside from that one doggo lord, the commander will make doggo tokens. Also running things double your token production such as Primal Vigor.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Why Wizards of the Coast Has No Real Competitive Answer to EDH / Commander
    That is really simple to explain J. Its based on the spending habits of the collective EDH playerbase. Commander 20XX decks always sell really well. Legends from whatever standard set tend to also sell well. They took it to mean that in order to rope someone in, they should double down on the EDH side of the game to get the average player interested in other formats as EDH-like things is apparently what the player base likes. They also have taken it to mean just print whatever they feel like in Commander precons as the playerbase will just snatch it up anyway, such as Timeless Wisdom having Fierce Guardianship. They also have understood that new Standard players are very likely to take their collections and move to EDH so catering to both tends to work well most of the time, the only time this really blew up in their face was companions. Even Brawl is just the training wheels version of EDH to get people accustom to the idea.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [M21] Command zone preview (game knights) - chromatic orrery
    Quote from Gutterstorm »
    Maybe I play this in Golos? Its probably better than Jegantha. But otherwise it just doesn't cut the mustard. 7 mana is when you should be casting game winning spells not setup cards. And if you're cheating it in then why aren't you just cheating a game winner in? It's impressive. It's what Mythics should look like. But it's just not good enough. You probably don't want it in decks with less than 3 colors because the mana fixing doesn't work as hard there and the card draw is actively bad. in 4 and 5 color decks you have better options for card draw and mana. I can't see taking a turn off in the Ur-Dragon to cast this instead of a dragon.
    Its a way for Kruphix, God of Horizons to turn his banked colorless mana into colored mana effectively while also padding it out, it allows you to with a sac outlet to repeatedly cheat out Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, you can just use this to naturally curve into Kozilek, the Great Distortion, Elsha of the Infinite decks can just use this to turn all of their excess red mana mana into white mana or blue mana that they actually need when storming off, Jodah, Archmage Eternal / Sisay, Weatherlight Captain / Ramos, Dragon Engine decks can just use this as a omni rock as it immediately lets you play/activate another thing for WUBRG, Sen Triplets can use this to more effectively steal from their opponents, its an automatic staple in Breya, Etherium Shaper decks.

    And that was just the stuff listed by the EDH reddit.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge— John Rolf preview
    Quote from Werewolf_Rawr »
    The least draconic looking dragon since they redesigned Bolas
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Doesn’t look like a dragon

    But this is so good in commander
    Looks like a demon.

    Another Legendary Dragon that isn't Thraxes. Lame.

    Drakuseth should have been Thraxes.
    Quote from leslak »
    Wonder if it is a leftover art for D&D, cause it is a Black Dragon....

    About the Neck, it is strange because his right wing is casting a shadow on his neck soo it is dificult to decipher that art.

    Also he has Smaug's mouth.

    A black dragon image for the non D%D players to have an idea.
    Super weird art.

    They either dont give any good guidelines anymore or they just dont care at all.
    Quote from boombox_smk »
    Super weird art.

    They either dont give any good guidelines anymore or they just dont care at all.


    What really throws me is that it is Daarken. His art is usually on point.
    I mean there is a precedence for it. Gadrak is probably just from the bladewing species of dominarian dragons. See Tarox Bladewing, Karox Bladewing, and Verix Bladewing.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge— John Rolf preview
    Also here is a wonderful thing to consider: Lightning Bolt now makes a treasure token. So in EDH its not that weird anymore to pack a Lightning Bolt to bolt a 3 toughness or less enemy creature as spot removal as you will get a refund of your mana on it. And red already has been getting support from things like Outpost Siege so it can effectively draw extra cards each turn in addition to its own wheeling effects.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Command zone preview (game knights) - chromatic orrery
    Quote from Zhalfir »

    Seven colorless is nothing in EDH, and you just proved it. We are in a format that uses Cultivate, Hour of Promise, Sol Ring, Guild Signets, Darksteel Ingots, Dockside Extornists, and over fifty other thans that just accelerate your mana. The only way 7 is a "prohibitive" cost is if you run no land ramp or artifact ramp and you are only playing 1 land per turn over the course of seven turns.


    Ok, I feel like we've come a long way from your initial "this is a must-have in all decks" statement. You're talking about this as a ramp payoff now, which sure, fine, that's what it is because it costs 7 mana. But then it's not real ramp, and it's not real fixing. It's a large potentially powerful payoff - and the payoff is mostly more mana so that you can get to something even larger. Or go infinite with untapping effects, but there are many ways to do that already.

    And my point with the fantasy scenario I suggested is that if you can get 7 mana on turn 3 with Kinnan out, you're probably just happy to activate Kinnan. But sure, playing a 7 drop mana rock is fine too.
    Its still ramp and its still fixing and its also a payoff card. Saying its only of those three things will look really bad in hindsight as this will be a sought after EDH staple and it will see play in other formats.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge— John Rolf preview
    Cat Oven says hi.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Command zone preview (game knights) - chromatic orrery
    Quote from Zhalfir »
    How to tell people misread card or are using a false equivalence:

    Quote from Xcric »


    its 7 mana, that's already prohibitively expensive. once you get up into that mana range you want to start winning, or win on the spot but this is just a rock. the using mana as any color aspect of it is something a lot of lower cmc already do or do something similar for cheap (chromatic lantern, dryad of the ilysian grove)
    Quote from OblivionedOne »
    This card is sadly pretty bad. 7 mana needs to be game ending stuff, this isn’t that. Disappointing. 4-5 color decks maybe, but I won’t run this in any of my five color decks because chromatic lantern is just way better.
    Dryad and Latern only fix the mana your lands produce. This fixes the mana of everything and it makes it own mana. It is literally a single C away from activating Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy activated ability on the same turn you cast this rock. Sol Ring now can be a turbo guild signet or, with Kinnan, a strictly better Black Lotus.


    Sure, but it costs seven mana in the first place. You can't wait that long for your ramp or your fixing. I'm not saying the card is awful. But if you think Kinnan into Sol Ring into Chromatic Orrery is good, can I interest you in turn 1 Sol Ring, turn 2 Kinnan plus Chromatic Lantern, turn 3 activate Kinnan? (While we're talking about dream scenarios)
    Seven colorless is nothing in EDH, and you just proved it. We are in a format that uses Cultivate, Hour of Promise, Sol Ring, Guild Signets, Darksteel Ingots, Dockside Extornists, and over fifty other thans that just accelerate your mana. The only way 7 is a "prohibitive" cost is if you run no land ramp or artifact ramp and you are only playing 1 land per turn over the course of seven turns.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Command zone preview (game knights) - chromatic orrery
    How to tell people misread card or are using a false equivalence:

    Quote from Xcric »


    its 7 mana, that's already prohibitively expensive. once you get up into that mana range you want to start winning, or win on the spot but this is just a rock. the using mana as any color aspect of it is something a lot of lower cmc already do or do something similar for cheap (chromatic lantern, dryad of the ilysian grove)
    Quote from OblivionedOne »
    This card is sadly pretty bad. 7 mana needs to be game ending stuff, this isn’t that. Disappointing. 4-5 color decks maybe, but I won’t run this in any of my five color decks because chromatic lantern is just way better.
    Dryad and Latern only fix the mana your lands produce. This fixes the mana of everything and it makes it own mana. It is literally a single C away from activating Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy activated ability on the same turn you cast this rock. Sol Ring now can be a turbo guild signet or, with Kinnan, a strictly better Black Lotus.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Command zone preview (game knights) - chromatic orrery
    Also you know what this means, right? Five. Color. Tron.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Core 2021 debut stream previews on Twitch
    keyworded mill
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on M21 Planeswalkers Decks
    Phasing? In my starter deck? Its more likely than you think.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Command zone preview (game knights) - chromatic orrery
    This is basically a must have for any deck. Even mono-colored ones. As all those mana rocks you have that produced colorless now produce colored mana. Even if you get less benefit off of the card draw than a deck with more colors, its still a giant mana rock itself.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Mangara, the Diplomat— Ma No Ah preview
    Its less of card advantage piece and more of a soft stax piece. As this is white not outright preventing you from doing something, but saying if you break this law, this effect happens.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [M21] Double vison - Urlichmtg
    Quote from FlossedBeaver »
    What’s with the spoilers today? Did people not get the memo, or just being disrespectful?
    Apparently it was a birthday stream.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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