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  • posted a message on [BRO] [DMR] [30A] Magic's 30th Anniversary previews
    Quote from Flisch »

    You're not supporting some startup that struggles for money, patiently waiting for them to finalize their product while getting nothing in return until, hopefully, some months or years later.

    You buy a product that they offer. You give them their money and you receive the goods. It's a very simple consumer-producer relationship. You don't owe them. They don't owe you. My god, the entitelement is strong here.

    Is this product a good way to celebrate the 30th anniversary? Haha, hell no. But that doesn't mean that they do it to spite you or don't "appreciate you enough".


    We are not talking about a start up nor have any of us, hopefully, paid upfront for this abomination. What we have invested though is time, money, and effort into a hobby for decades by playing the game, building decks, buying product, and spreading the IP to others.

    They made it a big deal that this thing was a part of celebrating the thirty years of success. And where did that success come from? I'll give you a hint, just look in the mirror because it's you, me, and everyone else here. So yeah, we should feel very much entitled on a decade milestone because we are the reason they even got there in the first place, we should not feel ashamed about saying we're owed a little something for all the years of support we have given them.

    Instead of trying to sell us four packs of random non-legal proxies at $999, they could have said that these proxies would be inserted into the place of the advertisement cards of other packs. We would have been singing their praises, sealed products would be flying off the shelf, and it would have costed WOTC nothing extra.



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  • posted a message on [BRO] [DMR] [30A] Magic's 30th Anniversary previews
    don't accept this as normal and absolutely do not buy it. not even the singles.


    Exactly. Then take it another step and shun those who do buy it sealed or as secondary singles. Don't play against them and tell them why. Yes that is harsh but its the only thing an individual can do. They are part of the problem, not the solution.

    This whole Tolarian professor angle of "just buy singles" and that makes you better or apart from the problem is a fallacy. You still support the whale that bought them and support WotC through them. Don't buy this 30th anniversary scam crap!!! Ignore it. Don't even watch the inevitable opening on YouTube by Rudy and the rest of the dbag whales. Ignore them, don't give them views, that is money people! Ignore the product, don't touch it, shun those who do and don't be tempted by clickbait online videos that monetize this crap behavior.


    Honestly this might be the only thing we can do.

    Hasbro has already stated that they plan to increase profits by 50% over the next three years under a new blueprint, all the while their stock value is tanking. I have little doubt that this blasphemy is a sign of things to come. A lot of the good ideas WOTC has come out with have been tainted of late. The List which could have been a good way to slowly pump old chase and staple cards is bloated with chaff. Reintroducing full art lands again to packs would have been a nice why of saying thanks for buying a pack, but they only appear one out of four packs.

    I am starting to feel like the victim of a cuckoo bird, I buy legal cards and cracked the occasional pack because I wanted to support the game and community that I have grown to love, but Hasbro/WOTC is just becoming blatantly greedier and demanding more from me without ever really stopping to say thanks for supporting them.



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  • posted a message on [BRO] [DMR] [30A] Magic's 30th Anniversary previews
    This $999 for packs thing is actually quite possibly the worst thing Wizards has ever done. Bravo. This is truly a new low.



    It is almost glorious in a way, in one day with a single video WOTC has just about united every faction within the Magic community in shared hatred.
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  • posted a message on [BRO] [DMR] [30A] Magic's 30th Anniversary previews
    Quote from FunkyDragon »
    The catch? It's worth $999 for the 4-booster display
    Not sure I would use the word "worth" - it may be priced for that much, but it sure isn't worth it. It cost them just as much to print those as a standard booster, and these proxies aren't even legal for play.
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Ok now we’re never gonna hear the end of it that “wizards is greedy” people now.
    Ok now we’re never gonna hear the end of it that “wizards is greedy” people now from the people who have undeniably been proven right. Fixed that for you.

    I get that WOTC is a business and the purpose of a business is to make money. I have no issue with that. But $1,000 for 60 randomized proxies?! There is no justification for that.


    WOTC might be a business, but they have obviously forgotten how to do good business.

    We bought legal cards and sealed product because we wanted to support the IP and the community that came with it, all WOTC had to do to keep us happy was reprint needed/wanted cards so that they were reasonable to get. Instead they double down on raising barriers to block us off from them. Both the full art lands and the List were fantastic ideas for rewarding us for cracking packs, but instead they filled the List with chaff and only about a quarter of packs have a full art.

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  • posted a message on [BRO] [BRC] [BRR] The First Look at Brothers' War — Weekly MTG previews
    I can't remember, when are we supposed to start seeing the previews for this set?

    I swear I heard it somewhere but my sense of time is shot.
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  • posted a message on [BRO] [BRC] [BRR] The First Look at Brothers' War — Weekly MTG previews
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    Recruitment Officer has a sweet body and a sweet ability...that we'll activate as often as Spectral Sailor's ability. Will the increased card quality and fortunate creature types be enough for Modern?

    Queen Kayla bin-Kroog's ability looks really sweet. Shame she's a 3-mana 2/3, so you probably have to put her in a deck full of removal magnets. Luckily, her ability encourages you to put her in a deck full of removal magnets.


    Not quite sure where the race swap assumption comes from - if you're assuming she's Thran, the Thran are/were humans, and Yawgmoth, Thran Physician was one of them. At any rate, she's held to be one of Jodah, Archmage Eternal's ancestors (Jodah apparently also being descended from one of Urza or Mishra through Kayla's son), and Jodah is talked about as being 100% human.

    If her skin tone is inconsistent...yeah, blame a style guide changing somewhere.




    Maybe this is the comic book depiction of her will explain it better


    Those comics were published by a third party and heavily retconned by The Brothers' War novel.


    oh the comics weren't canon ok that makes a little bit more sense

    but However I did hear that Jodah, Archmage Eternal is a descendant of kayla


    They're separated by about 400 years. Kayla would be one of some 8000 Brothers' War era ancestors of Jodah.

    There is presumably a canon description of Kayla in the Brothers' War novel and that's probably the only way of establishing anything concrete about her.


    It would take a deeper look back into the books but off the top of my head she was described as being raven haired with eyes that were liquid pools of darkness. Which makes me think she was similar in appearance to someone of Asian descent.

    In all honestly I not going to get too nitpicky about it and just assume that her ethnicity is in constant flux due to Teferi running around in the past.
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  • posted a message on [UNF] Captain Rex Nebula — day9 preview
    "Let's see what this eatery can do."
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  • posted a message on Dominaria United Story, Worldbuilding and Lore
    Quote from cyberium_neo »
    The new Weatherlight crew is a far cry from the original team. Shanna should be banned from even evoking her ancestor's name.


    I am summing this up to a failure on the writers' part.

    They are removing brain cells from characters to get the outcome they think will give the most shock value. Any Dominarian, let alone a direct descendent of Sisay, would know the insidious nature of a single scrap of phyrexian material would have.

    Additionally if they brought back Ertai and make not a single mention of him trying to get Belbe resurrected like himself I will be very disappointed. Then again, having more than the bare rudimentary understanding of the history of the story of this game is asking for too much it would seem.
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  • posted a message on Dominaria United Story, Worldbuilding and Lore
    I miss the Newts that were used as Sleepers in the OG Phyrexian invasion. They weren't completed so there was no way to tell if they were a sleeper or not, with these newer versions all you have to do is look for the lines or golden irises.

    This all feels similar to when they tried to push humanoid slivers on us.
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  • posted a message on Maro Teasers for Domnaria United
    • Creature – Phyrexian Horse


    Welp, looks like Mr. Ed got completed.

    Also I am hoping to see phyrexian tribal.
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  • posted a message on [DMU] A First Look at Dominaria United

    The difference here is that I can block Mistcutter Hydra all day with non-blue ground guys. Literally just make 8 0/1 plants with Avenger of Zendikar and I've gotten it taken care of for that many turns. The issue is the flying makes it harder to block, especially if they dump all of their mana into it. This is likely Mythic for Limited reasons but I imagine this is idealized as a RDW finisher.


    With Mistcutter the goal is to get infinite mana and pop it out by turn three, or four at the latest, not saying you wouldn't be able to get your avenger out in roughly the same amount of time if you went full ramp but if your opponent uses a rancor on their 5000+/5000+ then it really is a mute point. This red version of it would function in the same way except it would not need a rancor but could be countered.

    Comparing them they are roughly the same power level and I will probably add the red hydra to my modern deck, I just think it is silly that this is a mythic.




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  • posted a message on [DMU] A First Look at Dominaria United
    Flying is a big game, and generally makes this better than mistcutter. It's tough to cost in this modern era of extreme creature p/t power creep, but if it had base 1/1 it would always be the most efficient possible creature at each point in the curve and that was probably too much for wotc. Like they didn't want it to push out all red 2-3 drops, basically. I don't even know if it necessarily would, but it feels like it could. And it's a card they WANT to be cast for a big X, because a 2/2 version of this just doesn't really make sense. They'd rather you cast if for something big to make a big monster and when it's inefficient as a little guy, that's more likely.


    Nah it's a ***** card and a boring vanilla. Give it at least firebreathing, or even better a different version of firebreathing which also gives a +1/+1 counter.


    Considering the infinite mana combo I use Mistcutter hydra with, yeah this is a very subpar mythic. It doesn't even need the firebreathing, just give it something like protection from black, the chance for the flavor was right there with Sheoldred putting her two cents on it. As it stands the deck I would use this thing in wouldn't want it because it requires mixing in red, complicating the mana pool, and with no real protection from being countered or bounced it's not as resilient was its green counter part.

    Not mythic worthy, only reason I see it being rare is the flying or haste
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  • posted a message on [DMU] A First Look at Dominaria United
    After Gate and Double Masters I'm more than a little burned out.

    All I would like to see is phyrexian tribal start to flesh out.
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  • posted a message on [2X2] Uril, the Miststalker and Ulasht, the Hate Seed — Amazonian previews
    I really wish Uril had a new art. Really hate the current one.


    They should have done two runs of these master sets, one that is limited with all new fancy art, and then one that was unlimited but used the older art.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2 Singles price prediction
    Quote from Flamebuster »
    I'll make it real easy for you:

    They'll fluctuate, stabilize, and/or tank hard.

    For a more serious response, you only have to look at the cards in Double Masters I. Popular cards declined somewhat but stabilized (Mana Crypt). Higher-valued cards that don't see much play dropped. Same with obscure cards that maintained value due to the nature of being scarce. The originals may see a decline, but depending on how they're viewed/played across formats, they'll stabilize and/or even rise.

    *eats a sandwich*

    'buster


    Certainly the safe bet to take and any other year I would agree. The issue is though is that the economy is destabilizing due to the past two years and everyone is trying to make bank in hopes to maintain profits, case and point how WOTC is increasing the price of sealed product.

    I just do not see the reason why this needs to be a limited set nor a $16 per pack set besides the desire to see how far they can take things.

    All and all it is not healthy for the game nor the player base.

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