Ninja Of The Skyward Shuriken
Artifact Creature - Moonfolk Ninja
Flying, Ninjutsu
Whenever Ninja Of The Skyward Shuriken becomes tapped, return target land you control
Story-wise, I expect to see Jace (and whatever other planeswalkers are relevant to the story) convincing Niv that whatever nefarious designs Bolas has for Ravnica need to be stopped, probably by appealing to his self-interest or even ego. It's also not hard to imagine Niv wanting to match wits with Bolas just for the intellectual challenge/bragging rights of it. [EDIT: Also, it's Holmes vs. Moriarty, only with FREAKIN' DRAGONS!]
I really hope Niv doesn't show up as a planeswalker himself. Yes, Bolas is the only dragon planeswalker, but that (like Niv's NOT being one) is part of what makes him so kick-ass. Niv as a planeswalker therefore lessens the awesomeness-impact of TWO flagship dragons.
That is an awesome analogy i think ima sig it if you dont mind
As long as he shows up in the block or story i dont think it matters whichone he is. though to be honest i would rather see Ral Zarek as the first red blue walker.
The worst thing they could do would be to turn niv into a pawn for bolas. that would just be awful
I don't think the "moon" permanents would work very well. It would be a little parasitic. I imagine it wouldn't work for almost all the reasons arcane didn't work.
for those that don't know what arcane is Glacial Ray
Not infinite, just as many 2/2s and as big a ranger as you want there to be. yes the Xenograft makes the wolves allies in addition to there other types and one wolf will trigger the next and so on.
I wouldnt know since I didn't play then, but this IS the block that gave us Jitte and Bob right? Just checking...
Also, isn't Kamigawa considered one of the lamest sets ever? Mirrodin was too much, yes, but Kamigawa was really weak. I can think of 1 card from competetive legacy in Kamigawa...
Off-Topic: A chart of # of legacy playable 1st prints by block would be cool.
Personally, Kamigawa block was my favorite. But i'm probably biased because it was my first block. We got Umezawa's Jitte from betrayers. but other than that there is nothing off the top of my head from the block that shows in legacy.
but i dont think it is uncommon to not have many showings in eternal from any modern block. WOTC is actually pretty good about not letting that happen. becuase when something shows in legacy theres a good chance it was degenerative in standard.
On topic, i think a return to Ravnica would be sweet, if only to find out what happened to Niv-Mizzet. That has been irking me since dissension
Edit: too slow but shadowFeril said it better then me anyway
Are you removing ones from the OP when you find one you like?
anyway here's a crack at the 5 color walker
Reaper Joker WUBRG
planeswaler-Joker
+3: return up to two artifacts you own from the battlefield to your hand.
-1: artifact creatures you control get +2/+0 and become indestructible until the beginning of your next upkeep.
-8: for the rest of the game whenever a nontoken artifact enters the battlefield under your control you may put a token that's a copy of that creature onto the battlefield.
2
i'm not sure if the ultimate should grant haste and make you sac the token at EOT to prevent memory issues but i thought that wouldnt be worth the difficult mana cost that comes with him.
designing a colorless one seems like quit a challenge with out making it broken or suck but I'm gonna take a crack at Ulamog.
Ulachog 4
planeswalker- Ulachog
+1: Add 2 to your mana pool.
-1: Exile target creature, then return it to the battlefield under its owners control.
-3: creatures you control gains your choice of either trample, first strike, haste or flying until the beginning of the next end step.
2
Tell me what you think. ill be sure to post more if you want them.
you cant lose the game. your opponents cant win the game.(this dosent have loyalty because its supposed to be static like platinum angel)
+1: lose 2 life return target creature card from any graveyard to play until the end of turn. it gains haste until the end of turn.
-6: Redistribute any number of players' life totals. (Each of those players gets one life total back.).
starting loyalty 4
this would be ment for the chainer deck.
is this what you ment? what do you think of Tholrav?
My color is Purple. I value diversity, smashed color pies and obsolete Inquest articles. At my best, I can redefine MTG in a new and wonderful way. At my worst, I can end up as an Unhinged joke. My symbol is not defined. My enemies are 5 old and bureaucratic angry colors.
Siged!
anyway, if the game lasts long enough purple will happen. it will be permanent otherwise theres no point to it. but it wont happen for a long time. how does it go? the longer it lasts the probability of any given event gets closer to 1?
Rebbeca walked out into the mana cloud released by the stone chargers. She is dead, despite whatever Yawgmoth thought, so it'd be impossible storyline wise.
ok so that line of thought is a bust. could he influence the plot in anyway without being a dues ex machina? not a second comeing but perhaps just something he set in motion before he died?
i know it seems like a variation on the Yawgmoth second coming, but i think it would be cool if old yawgie had had a child with Glacians wife. but as soon as she found out that he was all rip ☺☺☺☺ evil she hide the fact from him. then hid the child away so that there was some yawgmoth family line or perhaps the child had the spark where its father did not and upon learning of his fathers legacy decides to just fade away, waiting for a chance come out from under his fathers dark dark shadow.
anyone else think something like that would be cool or even plausible?
Yes, and as I already stated 6 colors means 2color goes up to 15 and 3color goes up to 20. Just imagine Ravnica with 15 guilds instead of 10. Or Shards of Alara with 10 shards instead of 5. Adding a sixth color makes things A LOT more complicated in any kind of multicolor environment. The only way I see purple working is as a one block shot with ONLY mono-color cards.Maybe some muti-color at Mythic spread over the block
Questions to all who are pushing for purple-
What happens to cards like Farseek would it need errata or would we just get a functional re-print?
What happens to Green hate cards like Great Sable Stag, Glade Gnarr, or Bog Gnarr new versions of those too?
Would black get stronger hate against white, since they would then be direct enemies?
Would all the colors get direct enemy hate, since then there would be such a thing as direct enemies? If so, how much fun would an environment with that many hate cards floating around be?
@releasethedogs how would yellow work along with the newer gold frames?
i agree with you that it would make a multicolor themed block more complicated. although that isn't really an issue, or at least it wouldn't be at first. For there to be any worries about that purple would have to become a permanent part of the game, not just a block gimmick.
When purple is introduced if it comes off as good design it will stick around. then there would be at least a two year period for them to flesh out the color and make sure it had its own identity. Then we could see heavy multicolor theme block to show how purple intercepts and overlaps with the other colors.
as for the cards PorcelainGod mentioned. there is really no reason to errata them. Why should the introduction of purple change how older cards with protection and such interact with what ever it had protection from. there would be no reason to errata cards like great stable stagg with pro purple simple because green is its enemy color. if a creature type was printed that directly opposed the very nature of knights, would you expect them to errata every knight ever printed to reflect that opposition?
the color hate cards also wouldn't increase buy all that much. just enough to show that purple doesn't like green and viseversa. I also don't think being a "direct enemy" would really matter all that much, Just because purple showed up is no reason for white to hate black more than it did before.
but with all that said i think if purple ever does show up, it will have to be a permanent addition otherwise it inst worth the effort.
GOD WHY, they did it three times already. Get over it.
Well Radiozero, they have been supporting goblins, elves, merfolk, ect. since the beginning of the game. so the fact that they have done them three times is almost irrelevant.
Slivers are also a popular creature type, so theirs no doubt that they will do it again. the problem is though, as i believe has already been stated, is that there simple aren't any abilities that they dont have that makes since for them to have. We will just have to wait until there are enough new abilities that make since on slivers before we see them in mass again.
I like the counters. If anything id take off the you control/you dont control clauses, cards always have potential to be more fun with the more choices they provide. the counters also do a good representation of slowly strengthening or weakening the targets which feels very green black to me.
oh and i love the pernicious deeds as the -x ability, very cool.
Bobgar, I really have no idea where you're going.
1. "...treated as a new object" is not wording that would ever see print. If he can't leave the battlefield, then having his toughness reduced to zero wouldn't make a difference.
i couldn't think of a better wording. But its supposed to make the card act like a new card so all previous effects would no longer apply. Like when a card changes zones it is no longer considered the same card. consider momentary blink without the "blink".
No, it doesn't. It's a replacement effect that applies when it would enter the battlefield. If there's already a copy in play, it's exiled instead of entering the battlefield in the first place. It prevents people from cloning it and such in addition to preventing you from having 2 legendary creatures with the same name that just can't leave the battlefield.
shadowfate is correct, the "would" means that it checks before it ever ETB.
3. I still don't see why specific wording is needed for sacrificing. If a creature can't leave the battlefield, how can you possibly sacrifice it? Leaving the battlefield is a fundamental part of sacrificing.
The "i dont roll that way" bit makes me laugh a little, though.
I never really thought of that. I suppose it cant be a sacrifice if he never hits the graveyard. Anybody no the technical rules for sacrificing?
Artifact Creature - Moonfolk Ninja
Flying, Ninjutsu
Whenever Ninja Of The Skyward Shuriken becomes tapped, return target land you control
That is an awesome analogy i think ima sig it if you dont mind
The worst thing they could do would be to turn niv into a pawn for bolas. that would just be awful
for those that don't know what arcane is
Glacial Ray
Personally, Kamigawa block was my favorite. But i'm probably biased because it was my first block. We got Umezawa's Jitte from betrayers. but other than that there is nothing off the top of my head from the block that shows in legacy.
but i dont think it is uncommon to not have many showings in eternal from any modern block. WOTC is actually pretty good about not letting that happen. becuase when something shows in legacy theres a good chance it was degenerative in standard.
On topic, i think a return to Ravnica would be sweet, if only to find out what happened to Niv-Mizzet. That has been irking me since dissension
Edit: too slow but shadowFeril said it better then me anyway
anyway here's a crack at the 5 color walker
Reaper Joker WUBRG
planeswaler-Joker
+3: return up to two artifacts you own from the battlefield to your hand.
-1: artifact creatures you control get +2/+0 and become indestructible until the beginning of your next upkeep.
-8: for the rest of the game whenever a nontoken artifact enters the battlefield under your control you may put a token that's a copy of that creature onto the battlefield.
2
i'm not sure if the ultimate should grant haste and make you sac the token at EOT to prevent memory issues but i thought that wouldnt be worth the difficult mana cost that comes with him.
designing a colorless one seems like quit a challenge with out making it broken or suck but I'm gonna take a crack at Ulamog.
Ulachog 4
planeswalker- Ulachog
+1: Add 2 to your mana pool.
-1: Exile target creature, then return it to the battlefield under its owners control.
-3: creatures you control gains your choice of either trample, first strike, haste or flying until the beginning of the next end step.
2
Tell me what you think. ill be sure to post more if you want them.
Tholrav, lich lord 2BBB
plansewalker-Tholrav
you cant lose the game. your opponents cant win the game.(this dosent have loyalty because its supposed to be static like platinum angel)
+1: lose 2 life return target creature card from any graveyard to play until the end of turn. it gains haste until the end of turn.
-6: Redistribute any number of players' life totals. (Each of those players gets one life total back.).
starting loyalty 4
this would be ment for the chainer deck.
is this what you ment? what do you think of Tholrav?
Siged!
anyway, if the game lasts long enough purple will happen. it will be permanent otherwise theres no point to it. but it wont happen for a long time. how does it go? the longer it lasts the probability of any given event gets closer to 1?
ok so that line of thought is a bust. could he influence the plot in anyway without being a dues ex machina? not a second comeing but perhaps just something he set in motion before he died?
anyone else think something like that would be cool or even plausible?
i agree with you that it would make a multicolor themed block more complicated. although that isn't really an issue, or at least it wouldn't be at first. For there to be any worries about that purple would have to become a permanent part of the game, not just a block gimmick.
When purple is introduced if it comes off as good design it will stick around. then there would be at least a two year period for them to flesh out the color and make sure it had its own identity. Then we could see heavy multicolor theme block to show how purple intercepts and overlaps with the other colors.
as for the cards PorcelainGod mentioned. there is really no reason to errata them. Why should the introduction of purple change how older cards with protection and such interact with what ever it had protection from. there would be no reason to errata cards like great stable stagg with pro purple simple because green is its enemy color. if a creature type was printed that directly opposed the very nature of knights, would you expect them to errata every knight ever printed to reflect that opposition?
the color hate cards also wouldn't increase buy all that much. just enough to show that purple doesn't like green and viseversa. I also don't think being a "direct enemy" would really matter all that much, Just because purple showed up is no reason for white to hate black more than it did before.
but with all that said i think if purple ever does show up, it will have to be a permanent addition otherwise it inst worth the effort.
Well Radiozero, they have been supporting goblins, elves, merfolk, ect. since the beginning of the game. so the fact that they have done them three times is almost irrelevant.
Slivers are also a popular creature type, so theirs no doubt that they will do it again. the problem is though, as i believe has already been stated, is that there simple aren't any abilities that they dont have that makes since for them to have. We will just have to wait until there are enough new abilities that make since on slivers before we see them in mass again.
oh and i love the pernicious deeds as the -x ability, very cool.
shadowfate is correct, the "would" means that it checks before it ever ETB.
I never really thought of that. I suppose it cant be a sacrifice if he never hits the graveyard. Anybody no the technical rules for sacrificing?
although im glad that i made you laugh