MTG Salvation

According to a solicit I saw, the Mystery Boosters come 24 packs to a display. Release date is 3/13/2020. I haven't seen a price for displays/cases yet though.

I don't remember Kiora being mentioned at all. Did you get Kiora confused with "Ikoria", the name of the plane?

And they're doing five decks, tied to the Ikoria set. I'd be surprised if they're not just five mono-colored decks.

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yawn.

as long as modern exists, this is a dead format.

they can't have both, they need to sacrifice one of them. it's just going to be another tiny leaders, or brawl, or whatever that other one was where a walker could be your commander with a signature spell, its great in theory but without support it'll go nowhere fast and to get support you have to pull away from modern. that's a difficult balance. there is actually a point where there are TOO many ways to play.

i mean, it happens often enough already where a legacy event doesn't fire because people want to play modern that night, but that doesn't fire because some want standard, but no maybe half of them want to draft, oh whatever **** it lets all play commander. it was brawl night anyway.

Except Pioneer is necessary because Modern is gradually pricing itself out of playability for new/newer players. Or even some older ones. It's a necessary step. I imagine in another ten years or so, they'll do it again.

Pioneer isn't a rotating format.

Personally, I thought Elostirion(again)'s comment about pooping in a mylar baggie was a reference to the stunt Cards Against Humanity did some years back.

I'll really love it if the cards in the mystery set had no set numbers. That'd heighten the mystery somewhat. Even more so if the convention version and store version have different card pools. There's a lot they COULD do with a mystery set. It really depends on how far they want to take it.

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More facts, according to blogatog posts:

It will be draftable.
It is not standard legal.
There will be a convention version and a store version.

I still think it will be 100% reprints but the store version does make the possibility it will have new cards more likely.

You know from what your saying doesn’t that simply imply this 75$ pack is nothing more than the collectors edition of a supplement set coming

It is NOT a $75 pack. I don't know where you got that from but it's not right, stop saying it.

More facts, according to blogatog posts:

It will be draftable.
It is not standard legal.
There will be a convention version and a store version.

I still think it will be 100% reprints but the store version does make the possibility it will have new cards more likely.

It's apparently only available at MagicFests and other conventions. The two currently announced are MF Richmond and PAX Unplugged.

There is currently no indication whatsoever this will be available to stores.

So if this isn't 100% reprints, I'll be amazed. If it has new cards at all, this will piss off LGSs everywhere. And I think whoever said this was a commander product was wrong, aside from the fact that technically every product is a commander product. But I doubt it's a commander-focused set. The only solid info we know as to the card pool is that none of it is from the Reserve List.

Oh, and based on the event prices for this at MF Richmond, this would appear to be a premium set, too.

If Gladiator World is the pop-culture version of Rome, wouldn't that be Battlebond?

Beats calling everything "Return To X".

That's assuming she's even still a Planeswalker in Theros 2. Have we seen what happens to Planeswalkers when they go to the Underworld yet?

Teyo seems more likely to be the Gideon replacement. His power set is very similar.

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guys, stop complaining please.

wizards already introduced a 2 class way of selling magic products with the master editions. and people were more than happy to buy it. they wondered if thats the ceiling and tried the master editions with just 8 premium walkers and people were more than happy to buy it. ofc they go next level with these collectors boosters and this deluxe edition. the problem is not wizards, it is every single person that just buys cardboard for that price and all the others saying, yea, it is worth that much. that system only works as long as people support it.

just look at the secondary market. investors artificially increase the price by limiting the supply on a more or less low, but stable demand. thats why the price goes up and some people still pay for it.
and wizards notices people are paying 100's of dollars on the secondary market for rare stuff. so they say, lets make stuff rare and ask for the cash.

There's a big difference between Masters sets and Deluxe Editions. There's a little less of a difference between Masters sets and Mythic Editions, but still a significant one. While I disagreed with the execution, Masters sets were created for the purpose of getting reprinted cards into the hands of people who wanted them. Do the unopened packs have value? Yes, but that wasn't the express purpose of the set - except possibly for Ultimate Masters, which is probably the product that started WotC down the road they're currently on.

While Mythic editions had some desired reprints (the only real similarity between Masters and Mythic) Mythic and Deluxe editions were created to sell product to people who bought product in order to later resell product. Mythic and Deluxe are WotC's way of getting a piece of the secondary market pie, which they are otherwise unable to truly take advantage of. It could be argued that Mythic editions could be drafted, and I'm sure some were. But you can't do that with any of the Deluxe edition product, it's purposely not built that way. The Deluxe edition, and even the Collectors Boosters themselves, are truly not meant as a playable product, even on a single-card level. They're literally more valuable unopened, for the same reason (although not to the same extreme) that a sealed Revised booster/deck is valuable - the potential of what's inside. And WotC is pricing them accordingly. Yes, I know there's no MSRP but WotC *does* set the price they sell the product to distributors, who then have to set a price to make a profit while selling to stores, who also have to set a price to make a profit themselves, which is why the Collector's boosters are in the $25-35 range, depending on how much profit each LGS is willing to lose.

You can choose to only blame the buyers if you want, but WotC DOES bear responsibility in that they are choosing to make a product that only exists to be bought and sat on, even if WotC will never admit that.

I don't think there will be any.

Why do they keep doing this?

I'd really hoped the fact that stores were getting Collectors Boosters meant they were coming to their senses, even though it's a crap product. Then they announce this.

Ugh.

I wonder how this would do in a Miracles build.