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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    To be fair a not long time ago, Legacy Miracles played 4 SDT and 4 Brainstorm and 0-2 Ponders for years. Until they found out it was suboptimal and then almost everyone played 4 Ponders.

    Maxing out on cantrips is very potent and would be very dangerous with Preordain.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    Quote from Pokken »
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    given their salt-the-earth policy on blue card draw.


    Wizards: Let's print Opt to throw blue players a bone so they can run a suite of 8 decent cantrips

    Players: Wizards hates blue

    Wizards: Let's print this cool Phoenix thing that synergizes with cantrips, and multiple iterations of strong fliers that synergize with cantrips

    Players: Wizards keeps crapping on blue by not unbanning preordain

    Wizards: OK, that didn't work, let's print a new pushed delver-esque creature that synergizes with cantrips

    Players: SALTED EARTH SALTED EARTH

    -------------------------------------------------

    I didn't even get into spell queller or teferi or any of the other cool things wizards has been doing for blue (printing new cards to synergize with the cantrips you have, especially).

    If what you mean is Wizards has a cautious take toward 1 mana blue draw spells justifiably since Serum Visions (which is unplayable in legacy) is the second most played card in Modern with Opt at #6, then yes, they do.

    Preordain is a significant upgrade over opt. It's not about whether it compares to serum visions, since people would run both.

    TL;DR The blue persecution complex seriously has got to end :p After jace, with Serum visions and Snapcaster in the top 1 and 2 spots in their categories, it's time to just let it go.
    Quote from Pokken »
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    given their salt-the-earth policy on blue card draw.


    Wizards: Let's print Opt to throw blue players a bone so they can run a suite of 8 decent cantrips

    Players: Wizards hates blue

    Wizards: Let's print this cool Phoenix thing that synergizes with cantrips, and multiple iterations of strong fliers that synergize with cantrips

    Players: Wizards keeps crapping on blue by not unbanning preordain

    Wizards: OK, that didn't work, let's print a new pushed delver-esque creature that synergizes with cantrips

    Players: SALTED EARTH SALTED EARTH

    -------------------------------------------------

    I didn't even get into spell queller or teferi or any of the other cool things wizards has been doing for blue (printing new cards to synergize with the cantrips you have, especially).

    If what you mean is Wizards has a cautious take toward 1 mana blue draw spells justifiably since Serum Visions (which is unplayable in legacy) is the second most played card in Modern with Opt at #6, then yes, they do.

    Preordain is a significant upgrade over opt. It's not about whether it compares to serum visions, since people would run both.

    TL;DR The blue persecution complex seriously has got to end :p After jace, with Serum visions and Snapcaster in the top 1 and 2 spots in their categories, it's time to just let it go.


    So true. I mean seriously I can get behind believing that SFM and Twin are safe/ good for the format.
    But the Legacy cantrips no way. Miracles with 20 Lands and 4 Preordain, 4 Serum, 4 Opt looks dangerous.

    UW control is a really powerful deck that *****s on less refined/ bad decks.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    That is actually a really nice idea. I doubt Combo decks would play that card, but Control decks looking for card selection definetely would.
    But it is maybe too powerful for Standard.

    Personally I think Ponder is way too powerful to be ever even considered for Modern. Ponder is restricted in Vintage, because it is much more powerful in a format with Fetchlands. Preordain seems more likely, but given the success of Serum Vision decks I doubt Wotc wants to boost them further.


    I hate Serum Visions with passion, it is good when looking for lands and setting up for future turns. But when you are flooded drawing another land feels sooooo bad.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    Meerfolk is not a blue deck, they deceive you with their Islands but in reality they are just an aggro deck (a very uninteractive one, even burn is more interactive) with 30 creatures that ignores the opponent and smashes face.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    To be fair every company does research on the internet. They would be ******* stupid to not read free feedback on their product.

    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    Regarding the sword of the meek thing:

    Didn't he say something like: "wouldn't Sword make Lantern obnoxious?"

    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    You know every fair white deck does play SFM in Legacy, whereas Delver is not played in every blue fair deck.

    I'm personally hoping for a Dark Depths unban, because it's not even that strong compared to:

    -)insert combo deck killing you on turn 3
    -) would boost fair decks
    -) we have more answers with Field of Ruin than in the past



    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    I just don't get the logic of comparing SFM, a Legacy staple 2 drop, with Ancestral Vision, Bitterblossom, Sword (all fringe playables at best in Legacy) or even worse comparing it with 4 mana cards.

    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelBecque/status/1087397339910807554

    THE first nail in the SFM delusion mania
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    Well still no SFM, as I expected.
    Must suck for people who will be hoping still in 2+ years for an unban.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    Scapeshift, Jund with more Walkers, Amulet Titan with Serum Visions instead of Stirrings, Blue Tron
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    @tronix

    That was my point. You wrote it way more eloquently then I ever could, sir.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    What blistering fast combo kill is there with Skullclamp? I'm really curious.

    Skullclamp does not impact the board and gets outclassed by a lot of stuff tron does. O-stone destroys everything.

    Skullclamp and Jitte should absolutely be unbanned because they do nothing against combo and are very slow and bad vs tron.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    Well guys why not unban Skullclamp? It's not even that strong. Would suck against Turn 3 KCI Kill or Storm. And drawing two cards for 1 mana and you have to kill a creature so you are only neting 1 card, seems really weak in a world of flipped Thing in the Ice plus double Phoenix or triple Hollow One. Plus literally everyone is playing artifact removal.

    So Skullclamp should really not be banned.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    My personal biggest argument against SFM unban is:

    .) Wotc stated in the past that they don't want to unban cards that slot into Tier 1 strategies.

    .) Wotc could think that it would slot into Humans, Spirits.

    I'm personally not sure if Humans and Spirits would even play it. Humans could rebuild the manabase if it really wanted SFM (Mana Confluence etc.).
    Over the years I have seen several disappointed people that are sad that SFM is still not unbanned. And I don't think it is reasonable to expect SFM to get unbanned.


    Edit: Another argument against SFM is that it would reduce the impact of future cards. Maybe that is another reason why Wotc does not want SFM.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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