What do you mean by manabases being very expensive and how would adding another land help that?
Manabases are crazy expensive. The average EDH decks costs several thousands of dollars and much of that cost is due to the really pricy manabases those decks need to compete. This would fix that problem.
Maybe it's because I haven't played EDH, but I'm not sure what a "manabase" is. Do you mean dualcolor lands?
Manabase generally refers to all the cards in the deck that generate mana, so mostly the costs of lands.
The cost of dual lands and fetchlands is absurdly high and it creates a very high barrier for entry into the EDH format.
What do you mean by manabases being very expensive and how would adding another land help that?
Manabases are crazy expensive. The average EDH decks costs several thousands of dollars and much of that cost is due to the really pricy manabases those decks need to compete. This would fix that problem. But thats just one of the numerous positive impacts this will have on Magic as outlined in the OP.
am i supposed to call a judge every time my opponent plays this land and ask for a deck check ?
No you wouldnt need to call a judge whenever this land gets played.
Do players call a judge at the start of every brawl or EDH game? Do standard players automatically assume their opponents are playing 5 Goblin Chainwhirlers and call the judge preemptively to check?
If your opponent ever plays a second copy of a card they already played, thats when you call the judge.
If your opponent never casts the same card twice, why would call a judge?
The real question is, how many standard players wish they could make a standard legal brawl deck that doesnt automatically suck due to having a horribly inconsistent manabase?
Wastes was a fairly pointless addition, however it set a precedent that new basic lands are not untenable.
Casual table top magic players desperately need the following land...
Ravnica Land - Basic Land
Ravnica Land comes into play tapped
Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
As far as competitive play goes, this would not make any impact. Decades of experience demonstrated that comes into play tapped lands are a nonstarter in competitive gameplay, especially in a world where fetchlands and duallands exist.
Where this would make a HUGE impact is casual/kitchen table play. The cost of manabases is insane. Its what makes magic so obscenely expensive, and its a barrier to the game that Wizards can and should address by printing a land like the above.
This idea shares a lot with a similar suggestion posted in the MTG Arena user feedback forums that was right on point:
Name: High Land
Text: A deck can have any number of cards named Highland.
Tap - Add one mana of any color. You may use this ability only if your deck contains no more than a single copy of any card other than Highland.
They could just make the card a basic land like Wastes and remove some of the text.
“This one card would instantly shake up the meta completely. Suddenly so many new unique varied strategies would make an appearance in standard, modern, legacy and vintage. It would add so much variety to the game that I'm blown away the Wizards already hasn't printed such a land.
Of course, it should be a common, as widely available as wastes atleast, but lets think about how it would impact magic as a whole.
You can play a traditional consistent deck with 4 opt, 4 fumigate, and 4 teferi for control, 4 bomat courier and 4 lightning strike and 4 goblin chainwhirler for aggro etc.
Or you can forgeo consistency by playing only a single copy of each card, to be able to play cards of any color you want.
Those decks become a lot less predictable, decks would feel more similar to draft decks, with tons of possible starting hands and variety of game play. No two games would feel the same.
It would make deck building a lot more fun too. You can use the most powerful cards you have, regardless of color, but you only get to play one copy of them.
You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.”
Its a massive and significant addition to the game that would make Magic far more affordable for beginners and casual players everywhere.
For the first time ever, You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase. Its well past time that Wizards does something to address the out of control prices of manabases.
Highland could actually potentially enable a whole new slew of competitive decks in standard and legacy, its unlikely but possible. If it does enable some new legacy decks, that would be a welcome addition to the format.
It would at the very least generate a ton of interest in magic and bring back some players who stopped playing due to surge in costs of manabases, which is good for the game.
Making brawl decks portable over to standard and EDH decks easily portable over to legacy is going to be a significant Quality of Life improvement for EDH and Brawl players.
Why not? Highland could actually potentially enable a whole new slew of competitive decks in standard and legacy, its unlikely but possible. If it does enable some new legacy decks, that would be a welcome addition to the format.
It would at the very least generate a ton of interest in magic and bring back some players who stopped playing due to surge in costs of manabases, which is good for the game.
It would also make brawl decks portable over to standard and would make edh decks easily portable over to legacy, making for a significant Quality of Life improvement for EDH and Brawl players.
No you wouldnt need to call a judge when this land gets played.
Do players call a judge at the start of every brawl or EDH game? Do standard players automatically assume their opponents are playing 5 Goblin Chainwhirlers and call the judge preemptively to check?
If your opponent ever plays a second copy of a card they already played, thats when you call the judge.
If your opponent never casts the same card twice, why would call a judge?
The real question is, how many standard players wish they could make a standard legal brawl deck that doesnt automatically suck due to having a horribly inconsistent manabase?
No you wouldnt need to call a judge when this land gets played.
Do you call a judge at the start of every brawl or EDH game? Do standard players automatically assume their opponents are playing 5 Goblin Chainwhirlers and call the judge preemptively to check?
If your opponent ever plays a second copy of a card they already played, and their deck plays Highland, thats when you call the judge.
If your opponent never reveals/casts the same card twice, why would call a judge?
The real question is, how many brawl players wish they could play their brawl deck in standard and not have the deck automatically suck due to having a horribly inconsistent manabase?
Wastes was a fairly pointless addition, however it set a precedent that new basic lands are not untenable. In addition, land prices are obscene and make magic unaffordable and there are so many formats out there that building a deck tailored for yet another format that is unplayable outside that format is a huge ask.
This suggestion was posted in the MTG Arena community forum and was right on point:
Name: Highland
Type: Basic Land
Text:
Tap - Add one colorless mana.
Tap - Add one mana of any color. You may use this ability only if your deck contains no more than a single copy of any card other than basic lands.
For the first time ever, You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.
This one card would instantly shake up the meta completely. Suddenly so many new unique varied strategies would make an appearance in standard, modern, legacy and vintage. It would add so much variety to the game that I'm blown away the Wizards already hasn't printed such a land.
Of course, it should be a common, as widely available as wastes atleast, but lets think about how it would impact magic as a whole.
You can play a traditional consistent deck with 4 opt, 4 fumigate, and 4 teferi for control, 4 bomat courier and 4 lightning strike and 4 goblin chainwhirler for aggro etc.
Or you can forgeo consistency by playing only a single copy of each card, to be able to play cards of any color you want.
Those decks become a lot less predictable, decks would feel more similar to draft decks, with tons of possible starting hands and variety of game play. No two games would feel the same.
It would make deck building a lot more fun too. You can use the most powerful cards you have, regardless of color, but you only get to play one copy of them.
You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.
Here is an alternative route to go:
Ravnica Land - Basic Land
Ravnica Land comes into play tapped
Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
As far as competitive play goes, this would not make any impact. Decades of experience demonstrated that comes into play tapped lands are a nonstarter in competitive gameplay, especially in a world where fetchlands and duallands exist.
Where this would make a HUGE impact is casual/kitchen table play. The cost of manabases is insane. Its what makes magic so obscenely expensive, and its a barrier to the game that Wizards can and should address by printing a land like the above.
Its actually a fairly significant addition to the game that would make Magic far more affordable for beginners and casual players everywhere.
Its well past time that Wizards do something about the ridiculous price of manabases.
Wastes was a fairly pointless addition, however it set a precedent that new basic lands are not untenable.
Casual table top magic players desperately need the following land...
Ravnica Land - Basic Land
Ravnica Land comes into play tapped
Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
As far as competitive play goes, this would not make any impact. Decades of experience demonstrated that comes into play tapped lands are a nonstarter in competitive gameplay, especially in a world where fetchlands and duallands exist.
Where this would make a HUGE impact is casual/kitchen table play. The cost of manabases is insane. Its what makes magic so obscenely expensive, and its a barrier to the game that Wizards can and should address by printing a land like the above.
This idea shares a lot with a similar suggestion posted in the MTG Arena community forum that was right on point:
“Name: Highland
Type: Basic Land
Text:
Tap - Add one colorless mana.
Tap - Add one mana of any color. You may use this ability only if your deck contains no more than a single copy of any card other than basic lands.
This one card would instantly shake up the meta completely. Suddenly so many new unique varied strategies would make an appearance in standard, modern, legacy and vintage. It would add so much variety to the game that I'm blown away the Wizards already hasn't printed such a land.
Of course, it should be a common, as widely available as wastes atleast, but lets think about how it would impact magic as a whole.
You can play a traditional consistent deck with 4 opt, 4 fumigate, and 4 teferi for control, 4 bomat courier and 4 lightning strike and 4 goblin chainwhirler for aggro etc.
Or you can forgeo consistency by playing only a single copy of each card, to be able to play cards of any color you want.
Those decks become a lot less predictable, decks would feel more similar to draft decks, with tons of possible starting hands and variety of game play. No two games would feel the same.
It would make deck building a lot more fun too. You can use the most powerful cards you have, regardless of color, but you only get to play one copy of them.
You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.”
Welcome! There's an edit function for posts. Rapid multi-posting can be considered spam. If these were real cards this would belong in Standard New Card Discussion, otherwise I think it belongs in Custom Card Creation. Moving. - hoser2
Manabase generally refers to all the cards in the deck that generate mana, so mostly the costs of lands.
The cost of dual lands and fetchlands is absurdly high and it creates a very high barrier for entry into the EDH format.
Manabases are crazy expensive. The average EDH decks costs several thousands of dollars and much of that cost is due to the really pricy manabases those decks need to compete. This would fix that problem. But thats just one of the numerous positive impacts this will have on Magic as outlined in the OP.
No you wouldnt need to call a judge whenever this land gets played.
Do players call a judge at the start of every brawl or EDH game? Do standard players automatically assume their opponents are playing 5 Goblin Chainwhirlers and call the judge preemptively to check?
If your opponent ever plays a second copy of a card they already played, thats when you call the judge.
If your opponent never casts the same card twice, why would call a judge?
The real question is, how many standard players wish they could make a standard legal brawl deck that doesnt automatically suck due to having a horribly inconsistent manabase?
Casual table top magic players desperately need the following land...
Ravnica Land - Basic Land
Ravnica Land comes into play tapped
Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
As far as competitive play goes, this would not make any impact. Decades of experience demonstrated that comes into play tapped lands are a nonstarter in competitive gameplay, especially in a world where fetchlands and duallands exist.
Where this would make a HUGE impact is casual/kitchen table play. The cost of manabases is insane. Its what makes magic so obscenely expensive, and its a barrier to the game that Wizards can and should address by printing a land like the above.
This idea shares a lot with a similar suggestion posted in the MTG Arena user feedback forums that was right on point:
Name: High Land
Text: A deck can have any number of cards named Highland.
Tap - Add one mana of any color. You may use this ability only if your deck contains no more than a single copy of any card other than Highland.
They could just make the card a basic land like Wastes and remove some of the text.
“This one card would instantly shake up the meta completely. Suddenly so many new unique varied strategies would make an appearance in standard, modern, legacy and vintage. It would add so much variety to the game that I'm blown away the Wizards already hasn't printed such a land.
Of course, it should be a common, as widely available as wastes atleast, but lets think about how it would impact magic as a whole.
You can play a traditional consistent deck with 4 opt, 4 fumigate, and 4 teferi for control, 4 bomat courier and 4 lightning strike and 4 goblin chainwhirler for aggro etc.
Or you can forgeo consistency by playing only a single copy of each card, to be able to play cards of any color you want.
Those decks become a lot less predictable, decks would feel more similar to draft decks, with tons of possible starting hands and variety of game play. No two games would feel the same.
It would make deck building a lot more fun too. You can use the most powerful cards you have, regardless of color, but you only get to play one copy of them.
You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.”
Its a massive and significant addition to the game that would make Magic far more affordable for beginners and casual players everywhere.
For the first time ever, You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase. Its well past time that Wizards does something to address the out of control prices of manabases.
Highland could actually potentially enable a whole new slew of competitive decks in standard and legacy, its unlikely but possible. If it does enable some new legacy decks, that would be a welcome addition to the format.
It would at the very least generate a ton of interest in magic and bring back some players who stopped playing due to surge in costs of manabases, which is good for the game.
Making brawl decks portable over to standard and EDH decks easily portable over to legacy is going to be a significant Quality of Life improvement for EDH and Brawl players.
It would at the very least generate a ton of interest in magic and bring back some players who stopped playing due to surge in costs of manabases, which is good for the game.
It would also make brawl decks portable over to standard and would make edh decks easily portable over to legacy, making for a significant Quality of Life improvement for EDH and Brawl players.
Do players call a judge at the start of every brawl or EDH game? Do standard players automatically assume their opponents are playing 5 Goblin Chainwhirlers and call the judge preemptively to check?
If your opponent ever plays a second copy of a card they already played, thats when you call the judge.
If your opponent never casts the same card twice, why would call a judge?
The real question is, how many standard players wish they could make a standard legal brawl deck that doesnt automatically suck due to having a horribly inconsistent manabase?
Do you call a judge at the start of every brawl or EDH game? Do standard players automatically assume their opponents are playing 5 Goblin Chainwhirlers and call the judge preemptively to check?
If your opponent ever plays a second copy of a card they already played, and their deck plays Highland, thats when you call the judge.
If your opponent never reveals/casts the same card twice, why would call a judge?
The real question is, how many brawl players wish they could play their brawl deck in standard and not have the deck automatically suck due to having a horribly inconsistent manabase?
For the first time ever, You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.
Its well past time that Wizards do something about the ridiculous price of manabases.
Its well past time that Wizards reduce the barrier for entry into EDH and Brawl largely due to ridiculous manabase costs.
This suggestion was posted in the MTG Arena community forum and was right on point:
Name: Highland
Type: Basic Land
Text:
Tap - Add one colorless mana.
Tap - Add one mana of any color. You may use this ability only if your deck contains no more than a single copy of any card other than basic lands.
For the first time ever, You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.
This one card would instantly shake up the meta completely. Suddenly so many new unique varied strategies would make an appearance in standard, modern, legacy and vintage. It would add so much variety to the game that I'm blown away the Wizards already hasn't printed such a land.
Of course, it should be a common, as widely available as wastes atleast, but lets think about how it would impact magic as a whole.
You can play a traditional consistent deck with 4 opt, 4 fumigate, and 4 teferi for control, 4 bomat courier and 4 lightning strike and 4 goblin chainwhirler for aggro etc.
Or you can forgeo consistency by playing only a single copy of each card, to be able to play cards of any color you want.
Those decks become a lot less predictable, decks would feel more similar to draft decks, with tons of possible starting hands and variety of game play. No two games would feel the same.
It would make deck building a lot more fun too. You can use the most powerful cards you have, regardless of color, but you only get to play one copy of them.
You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.
Here is an alternative route to go:
Ravnica Land - Basic Land
Ravnica Land comes into play tapped
Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
As far as competitive play goes, this would not make any impact. Decades of experience demonstrated that comes into play tapped lands are a nonstarter in competitive gameplay, especially in a world where fetchlands and duallands exist.
Where this would make a HUGE impact is casual/kitchen table play. The cost of manabases is insane. Its what makes magic so obscenely expensive, and its a barrier to the game that Wizards can and should address by printing a land like the above.
Its actually a fairly significant addition to the game that would make Magic far more affordable for beginners and casual players everywhere.
Its well past time that Wizards do something about the ridiculous price of manabases.
Casual table top magic players desperately need the following land...
Ravnica Land - Basic Land
Ravnica Land comes into play tapped
Tap: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
As far as competitive play goes, this would not make any impact. Decades of experience demonstrated that comes into play tapped lands are a nonstarter in competitive gameplay, especially in a world where fetchlands and duallands exist.
Where this would make a HUGE impact is casual/kitchen table play. The cost of manabases is insane. Its what makes magic so obscenely expensive, and its a barrier to the game that Wizards can and should address by printing a land like the above.
This idea shares a lot with a similar suggestion posted in the MTG Arena community forum that was right on point:
“Name: Highland
Type: Basic Land
Text:
Tap - Add one colorless mana.
Tap - Add one mana of any color. You may use this ability only if your deck contains no more than a single copy of any card other than basic lands.
This one card would instantly shake up the meta completely. Suddenly so many new unique varied strategies would make an appearance in standard, modern, legacy and vintage. It would add so much variety to the game that I'm blown away the Wizards already hasn't printed such a land.
Of course, it should be a common, as widely available as wastes atleast, but lets think about how it would impact magic as a whole.
You can play a traditional consistent deck with 4 opt, 4 fumigate, and 4 teferi for control, 4 bomat courier and 4 lightning strike and 4 goblin chainwhirler for aggro etc.
Or you can forgeo consistency by playing only a single copy of each card, to be able to play cards of any color you want.
Those decks become a lot less predictable, decks would feel more similar to draft decks, with tons of possible starting hands and variety of game play. No two games would feel the same.
It would make deck building a lot more fun too. You can use the most powerful cards you have, regardless of color, but you only get to play one copy of them.
You could play your brawl deck in standard, or your edh deck in legacy and not have an inconsistent manabase.”
Welcome! There's an edit function for posts. Rapid multi-posting can be considered spam. If these were real cards this would belong in Standard New Card Discussion, otherwise I think it belongs in Custom Card Creation. Moving. - hoser2