Im voting you and I have open questions for you. It's been two days since I voted you and you've yet to respond.
I'm not that concerned about a vote, and I don't know or care how you expect me to respond.
What "open questions" do you have for me? Didn't see anything other than the quote above, and if that's what you're talking about, get ****ed homie
If that's not the question you're talking about, then show me where they are and I'll get on them right after you answer some of the questions I've asked you that got ignored.
I wanted you to respond to my vote. Your response is no response, so I don't have any reason to change my vote.
@RE what do you think of iso?
You started attacking someone else aftee he claimed vanilla do you think he's town?
Also I wanted to comment on the case of slave earlier based on the case she could just be a not interested town and it's not that what she's doing is bad for "town" it's bad for either alignments
What could possibly make me look like I'm not interested? I am rather exhausted with how people are apparently just unable to remember my posts / barely read them in the first place. Iso, Last, 013livion, and now you. It's exhausting. I'll see this game to the end but you're not making me excited to play again if this is how people are going to behave.
Lynch: 013livion
I don't have a night choice yet.
based on the case against you that iso posted not based on your post..
no more ates pls I think we already have more than enough ate in this game for a mash what you guys arguing isn't even bad enough
Bezos
no offense, but it feels like you posting, and being like physically in the thread, are not two of the same thing? If you don't get what I am saying, then it layman's terms, you are here but not actually here??
at least that's how you feel to me
also you responded to a post that wasn't even about you, with a sarcastic comment? like why?
and again you seem to only appear when posts are about you, which its necessarily scummy, but just something I noticed
you think you created discussions? so me some of these posts then...
im sorry you feel that I'm not here.
However I don't do sarcasm, I mean everything I've said.
If you really care, you'd find those posts. I'm not your mom.
Is that a problem? Because you just confronted me in your previous post. You even started your post with "no offense" which is just a way of offending someone without them having a chance to call them out on offending them. You don't get to choose whether or not there's offense.
I was hoping for something more selling from Rumanshi as evidence that he is scum. His lack of content makes that close to impossible, but his fence-sitting (?) on Iso bothers me.
Yes, I saw that too, and is what I mean by fence-sitting
I think scum is in Riku/Shattiel.
No more PoE, you two. Start picking battles with people.
I can get behind pressuring Rumanshi for content, but I'd like to know what has changed your mind on Shattiel, because you've had him as your strongest town read practically all Day.
Putting aside Iso/RE, I think that Slave should probably be the lynch, unless this gets us somewhere VOTE: Rumanshi
Im voting you and I have open questions for you. It's been two days since I voted you and you've yet to respond.
@RE what do you think of iso?
You started attacking someone else aftee he claimed vanilla do you think he's town?
Also I wanted to comment on the case of slave earlier based on the case she could just be a not interested town and it's not that what she's doing is bad for "town" it's bad for either alignments
What could possibly make me look like I'm not interested? I am rather exhausted with how people are apparently just unable to remember my posts / barely read them in the first place. Iso, Last, 013livion, and now you. It's exhausting. I'll see this game to the end but you're not making me excited to play again if this is how people are going to behave.
I'm comparing myself to Iso for a moment, since he brought this whole "answering questions" thing to the forefront. It's hard to tell with Iso's posts because he doesn't always quote (counting these is half original content, half answers), and sometimes he breaks the same quote apart for multiple statements (which I'm counting as 1-2 answers). Given that, I count about 30 lines of responding to people addressing him, out of about 48 lines total.
So Iso, who accuses me of "solely answering questions" actually answers way more than I do.
First I only have about 15 lines where I respond to someone directly addressing me, my 15 or so remaining lines are all me starting new threads of discussion. So I'm balancing my time and attention perfectly IMO.
Second, I already did address Iso's vote on me. In my second post of the game:
So, I won't address the elephant in the room, as realistically, anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about doesn't need to know what I'm talking about.
Skipping by that, let's look at Bezos, because I'm noticing a couple of things I didn't see, before.
Bezos didn't engage with my RVS vote, which I find unusual, as it suggests to me that she didn't know how to interact with me naturally, there. It's a bit weak, yeah, but it's something. I'm not going to respond to a personal attack.
Without quoting posts, it becomes apparent that Bezos is very detached from the game - both separating themselves from the primary interactions of the game, but also, she's emotionally distant, and her posts seem disconnected in their progression. I feel like #102 is a good example of this in the language used. I don't know any of these people. Why would I have any emotional investment in any of them? If I'm detached it's because I'm playing with a group of strangers plus you.
Bezos also isn't really asking game-solvey questions. She's mostly going with the flow of the game - that vote on me was opportunistic as hell, and was never explained - and the vote on RE also looks like "let's go with what's popular and see what we can get away with". Most of Bezos's posts and interactions are solely answering questions that other people are asking of her, and are very close to the chest in general - as though she's afraid to give more information than she needs to. I'm not afraid to use my vote to further the game.
This a game of responding to people. Is there some ratio of answering questions and not answering questions that you expect out of someone? Have you taken the time to demonstrate (a) that I have the highest ratio of questions answered, and (b) that answering questions is alignment indicative? No, you haven't.
I've been accused of over-explaining and under-explaining. Which one is it?
I'm not gonna go too in-depth on this since it's an abnormally busy night at work, but I think after reconsidering the game state, I feel better about my vote on Bezos. You came up with some reason to vote me, then decided to post that instead of providing the actual meat of your argument. Color me unimpressed.
Rumanshi - If his scum meta is really just lurking then I believe this is his town game he's not giving much thoughts but it's not really wrong or forced either I can see that he's thinking at least
I skimmed his iso in the token mafia game Wisp linked. There are a few similarities, although I didn't keep track of how frequently he posted. He needs to push people. Only townreading means little backlash.
I still need Slave and Wisp to confirm before proceeding with what I'd like to do.
Apparently I did miss the word "lynch" there.
This is much stronger language than you used against him in the post I was responding to. What changed since then?
My perspective on Riku hasn't changed, but I do think he's getting a pass. It makes me wonder if he's scum riding on old meta or coasting under the several townreads on him or if there's someone with TMI dismissing him.
I did also say "general terms." It's not so much strong language as it is the truth. Unfortunately it doesn't make Riku automatically scum, due to meta mostly.
(I also kind of disagree. I think Riku is a good candidate to be vigged.)
You know what else is seen as "generally" scummy? Fence sitting
So what is your town motivation for doing that multiple times, even when asked about it (even in this post where you're trying to convince me that isn't what you're doing ), instead of just stating that you have no read due to his inactivity and leaving it at that?
This feels crafted. Declaring one's own content a virtue and then employing that postulate to accuse someone of not being virtuous.
Since apparently literally everybody is ignoring my case against RE including RE, I'll do you guys a solid just this once and repeat it here:
RE's conversation with Bezos is about semantics and pedantry. RE decided early on that she wanted to latch on to me and realized she couldn't push on Bezos reasonably. So, rather than firing back at Bezos for questioning her posting methods, she talked her down from the "I want to lynch you" ledge - because it was easier to sway Bezos to her side rather than expect anybody to reasonably believe that she thought Bezos was scum. This is evident in the cognitive dissonance she displays between when she has decided she wants to push someone (as highlighted by her earlier suspicions of myself) vs. when she had her conversation with Bezos about Bezos prodding her, and directly contradicts the manner in which she stated she was approaching her conversation with Bezos, which, by the way, is not a town mindset.
It's not that hard, people.
I don't see it that way. The semantics and pedantry were very towny.
If I'm reading off tone, Rumanshi is town.
I felt a bit of that explosiveness in his response to Tainted asking me for thoughts on putting Wisp in towncore.
Didn't you just say something along the lines of how you don't read off tone? Or that you think tonal reading is bad?
Vote: Iso
Please explain vote. o.o
I have a feeling that I figured out RE so that leaves Iso as mafia.
I want to know what you think of RE
I think RE is town. Posts that once felt rigid now are falling into place. It's a big picture view, not determined by an individual post. The beginning and middle didn't make sense until I saw the end.
I'm really not sure what's so difficult to grok about what's being said. Also, I find this response disingenuous, as it directly conflicts with what you said about Bezos above:
"Slave's playstyle makes it difficult to counter him if he's reading off of tone, making it easy for him as scum to excuse his reads."
However, you're approaching the "misunderstanding" without even an inkling of suspicion in your tone - it's evident that you don't suspect Bezos, as you make your suspicions readily available based on your tone earlier in the game. You're being far too reasonable in your discourse with Bezos if you don't already know they're town, which is in stark contrast to your prior statement evoking the "well they could be scum" card to keep your options open.
Actually, rather than not suspecting them, I'm aware that miscommunication can be caused by things other than alignment difference. I gain nothing from labeling them as scum without understanding where they're coming from. Not to mention, there is only one scum in this game. Without you or Riku posting enough to get a solid read, there was no way I could fully suspect Bezos because one of you could have just as easily been scum.
Is this opinion popular enough for me to copy? I like it.
Check Rumanshi if you must.
Shoot me so I don't have to keep playing.
However I don't do sarcasm, I mean everything I've said.
If you really care, you'd find those posts. I'm not your mom.Is that a problem? Because you just confronted me in your previous post. You even started your post with "no offense" which is just a way of offending someone without them having a chance to call them out on offending them. You don't get to choose whether or not there's offense.Im voting you and I have open questions for you. It's been two days since I voted you and you've yet to respond.What could possibly make me look like I'm not interested? I am rather exhausted with how people are apparently just unable to remember my posts / barely read them in the first place. Iso, Last, 013livion, and now you. It's exhausting. I'll see this game to the end but you're not making me excited to play again if this is how people are going to behave.
Lynch: 013livion
I don't have a night choice yet.
So Iso, who accuses me of "solely answering questions" actually answers way more than I do.
First I only have about 15 lines where I respond to someone directly addressing me, my 15 or so remaining lines are all me starting new threads of discussion. So I'm balancing my time and attention perfectly IMO.
Second, I already did address Iso's vote on me. In my second post of the game:
Vote: 013livion_IX