kinda weird opening of my brain rq
secretly I don't mind losing to scum!Tom or scum!vez if we're in those universes
there's a marginally higher chance we're in the scum!Tom universe than scum!vez I think
but yeah it's probably KA still and... everything is making me more sure.. KA let me know if you want me to keep responding to your concerns about me but at this point we're both either scum or confbiasing tbh
if you two both feel {KA, TW} is the dichotomy to hammer I'm probably not gonna fight all that hard because it likely still wins the game. I mean normally I'd yell that I'm towncleared mechanically but a case can be made for ang of the three of us to have been towncleared mechanically in some way or another.
I'd make a case that I'm clearly town but I don't necessarily expect anyone to read things that way. I'm mid burnout atm and generally not playing mafia at all because I have low energy for it, so my play is slow to move underexplained and when it's good feels TMIy, it's something I'm really cognisant of atm. so I don't really feel like anyone in particular is misreading me (in many ways even KA's mislynch case on me is actually fairly well done)
so yea I'll be around but that's kinda where I'm at wrt endgaming
I actually liked your posting in token mafia markedly more than I do here. you weren't around as much so small sample size but in addition to the above I think 479 and 502 are town indicative. 479 has the kind of flow and effort to gamesolve intuitively and pretty smoothly blends where you're at wrt combo of mechanics + gamestate that comes from town
502 is a deliciously paranoid read on a slot that isn't worth pushing for a wolf at that point and reads as genuinely paranoid
I actually think you read really different there vs. here
Having a read of the Token Mafia game and for example 231 is a post which makes me think "ohey town" which is something I've been kinda looking for here. still working thru it but you were in an hydra and not very present. what exactly am I lookin for?
I just struggle with sheer mechanical reads/solves when it doesn't feel like actual alignment reads have a lot of nuanced thought behind them--it makes it hard for me to read it like its real
I'll go have a read of that link tho, reading is always fun.
idk Osie's mod meta but if anyone has heaps of time maybe check if he's used the tracker/watcher + ninja interaction historically and how he worded the result (i.e. "your target did not visit anyone" Vs "player name did not visit anyone"). imo it's common practice to use an intentionally ambiguously worded phrasing if accounting for the existence of manipulative roles such as ninja, redirector, etc. I could ask him this as well I guess I'm just kinda musing.
If you're town I'm sorry in like a post-game fashion, Kami. there's something about soft mechanical solves and reads that can be summed up with a table that just doesn't fit well with me. they don't feel genuine and ~flowy~, I'm getting more of a pre-planned structured energy.
tonality is one thing but it's kinda like I could draw a graph that sums up your exact position in the game and that's just not something I see coming from townies who are confused and hard pressed to solve a puzzle with super limited time :?
KA if you acknowledge there's a world where I can be town engage with me a little? you're basically telling me the last wolf is Tom at this point. we agree Vez is never being lynched. sell me that Tom needs to be lynch #2
on the flip side if you just think Tom is town explain why I'm a wolf?
it feels like you don't have any conviction in your 2p dichotomy and I'm getting the feeling like you've achieved two lynches you think you can get (or end the game without being lynched, worst case scenario) but I am not feeling like you're feeling like there's a sense of urgency and need to solve this
vote: Tom
yeah alright if you're the wolf gg
but I respect all of your intelligenceses
having one which presents as townsided is just well balanced regardless of alignment (even if we assume it exists)
secretly I don't mind losing to scum!Tom or scum!vez if we're in those universes
there's a marginally higher chance we're in the scum!Tom universe than scum!vez I think
but yeah it's probably KA still and... everything is making me more sure.. KA let me know if you want me to keep responding to your concerns about me but at this point we're both either scum or confbiasing tbh
if you two both feel {KA, TW} is the dichotomy to hammer I'm probably not gonna fight all that hard because it likely still wins the game. I mean normally I'd yell that I'm towncleared mechanically but a case can be made for ang of the three of us to have been towncleared mechanically in some way or another.
I'd make a case that I'm clearly town but I don't necessarily expect anyone to read things that way. I'm mid burnout atm and generally not playing mafia at all because I have low energy for it, so my play is slow to move underexplained and when it's good feels TMIy, it's something I'm really cognisant of atm. so I don't really feel like anyone in particular is misreading me (in many ways even KA's mislynch case on me is actually fairly well done)
so yea I'll be around but that's kinda where I'm at wrt endgaming
@whoever's town don't **** up
no pressure
502 is a deliciously paranoid read on a slot that isn't worth pushing for a wolf at that point and reads as genuinely paranoid
I actually think you read really different there vs. here
I just struggle with sheer mechanical reads/solves when it doesn't feel like actual alignment reads have a lot of nuanced thought behind them--it makes it hard for me to read it like its real
I'll go have a read of that link tho, reading is always fun.
mechanical side of things is wearing me down tbh
tonality is one thing but it's kinda like I could draw a graph that sums up your exact position in the game and that's just not something I see coming from townies who are confused and hard pressed to solve a puzzle with super limited time :?
#buzzwords
I'm looking for some nuance and trajectory
on the flip side if you just think Tom is town explain why I'm a wolf?
it feels like you don't have any conviction in your 2p dichotomy and I'm getting the feeling like you've achieved two lynches you think you can get (or end the game without being lynched, worst case scenario) but I am not feeling like you're feeling like there's a sense of urgency and need to solve this