However, to be prepared for this eventuality, I'd like you, GJ, to confirm or deny the proposed plan of night targets in case Ruma hangs. JT and MS have voiced their opinion, I'd like to hear from you as well.
Agreed on planning. Just to make sure something similar does not happen tomorrow; in case Riku hangs today and flips town, does everybody agree that the best plan to at least clear one of the three surviving players is: A targets B, B targets C, C targets A, Tiger (likely night victim) targets whoever he pleases?
I need answers from JT, GJ and MS. A simple YES or NO will suffice.
Sorry if you're town. There are too many "coincidences" to ignore. You were my top read D1 as well. But if you flip town, I'd say GJ is the safest bet, yes.
I'm too tired to go on right now. Will read the last few pages again tomorrow, along with responses.
Oh, and because of #207, of course. I feel Silvers willingness to switch to JT is NAI, but his fierce attack on Meteor could be. I am strongly reading JT as town from other stuff.
#131 is where Ruma makes his case on me. JT dislikes it, GJ dislikes it. In #135 Silver says it feels town and urges to abandon Ruma lynch. Hm. Meteor's comment in #140 also makes sense (day chat).
#131 is also where I feel Ruma sets a potential "trap" for me, asking me if abu will flip scum. I believe he was setting me up for D2 lynch if D1 lynch fails. This also fits with scum hitting Vaimes at night (which struck me as odd, since he was constantly under pressure by GJ, for instance) and not me - I honestly felt I'm the one on the chopping block, since I feel I was the most town-read player. Silver flipped scum, we can blame Tiger. Unfortunately, I got targeted by more than one player and got cleared.
#167 Silver reads Ruma as a miller, reinforces this opinion in #207. Which is convenient, if they are scum buddies. If they both survive D1 and someone checks Ruma, he can claim miller, Silver backs him, and they try to lynch the other player and thus win the game.
#207 is important in other ways as well. Silver is strongly committed to making a case on Meteor, while the wagon on Ruma persists. I doubt he would go to these lenghts to distance. It feels he swung in with too much bravado. He went for the kill. He also states he is willing to shift to JT if need be.
#210 Ruma jumps right onto the Meteor wagon which Silver started.
Kind of tired now. Confident on who the scum is anyhow.
Vote: Rumanshi
Going to re-read his posts D2 just to prevent him from having an all-caps tantrum
If Ruma ends up town, and I die at night, out of the three, I'd say JT is BY FAR the most solid town read. I'd probably lynch GJ, but I fear it may be because his "I'm town leader and you are insulting my intelligence" attitude is getting on my nerves.
@Meteor for instance, #16 is way more of a "scum slip", and nobody raised an eyebrow then. I think it's not worth pursuing.
@Ruma no need for all caps. I posed a simple question, why do you feel Vaimes' read on you is worth mentioning, yet you do not follow his reads on JT, for instance. It is a legit question and I'd like an answer. If you are town, you will give it to me.
@Ruma: Vaimes being town does not make him auto-correct. But I do find it interesting that you decided that Vaimes read of you should prove you townie, but you disregard his read of, for instance, GJ (should be scum by Vaimes' account) or JT (should be town).
@Meteor: I didn't read that as a scumslip.
Going to re-read the thread tonight if possible. But where I stand atm, I'd say lynch Ruma. If he's town, follow GJ's plan (I'm the wild card since I'm probably dying, JT-GJ-MS create a "circle" of who targets who). Of the three, I'd say JT is the safest bet to be town. Still don't see scum!JT hammering scum!silver when they could wait for someone to change their mind and possibly hammer town!ruma.
However, to be prepared for this eventuality, I'd like you, GJ, to confirm or deny the proposed plan of night targets in case Ruma hangs. JT and MS have voiced their opinion, I'd like to hear from you as well.
I need answers from JT, GJ and MS. A simple YES or NO will suffice.
I have to think some things through. Will do so as soon as I can.
I'm too tired to go on right now. Will read the last few pages again tomorrow, along with responses.
#131 is also where I feel Ruma sets a potential "trap" for me, asking me if abu will flip scum. I believe he was setting me up for D2 lynch if D1 lynch fails. This also fits with scum hitting Vaimes at night (which struck me as odd, since he was constantly under pressure by GJ, for instance) and not me - I honestly felt I'm the one on the chopping block, since I feel I was the most town-read player. Silver flipped scum, we can blame Tiger. Unfortunately, I got targeted by more than one player and got cleared.
#167 Silver reads Ruma as a miller, reinforces this opinion in #207. Which is convenient, if they are scum buddies. If they both survive D1 and someone checks Ruma, he can claim miller, Silver backs him, and they try to lynch the other player and thus win the game.
#207 is important in other ways as well. Silver is strongly committed to making a case on Meteor, while the wagon on Ruma persists. I doubt he would go to these lenghts to distance. It feels he swung in with too much bravado. He went for the kill. He also states he is willing to shift to JT if need be.
#210 Ruma jumps right onto the Meteor wagon which Silver started.
Kind of tired now. Confident on who the scum is anyhow.
Vote: Rumanshi
Going to re-read his posts D2 just to prevent him from having an all-caps tantrum
If Ruma ends up town, and I die at night, out of the three, I'd say JT is BY FAR the most solid town read. I'd probably lynch GJ, but I fear it may be because his "I'm town leader and you are insulting my intelligence" attitude is getting on my nerves.
@Ruma no need for all caps. I posed a simple question, why do you feel Vaimes' read on you is worth mentioning, yet you do not follow his reads on JT, for instance. It is a legit question and I'd like an answer. If you are town, you will give it to me.
@Meteor: I didn't read that as a scumslip.
Going to re-read the thread tonight if possible. But where I stand atm, I'd say lynch Ruma. If he's town, follow GJ's plan (I'm the wild card since I'm probably dying, JT-GJ-MS create a "circle" of who targets who). Of the three, I'd say JT is the safest bet to be town. Still don't see scum!JT hammering scum!silver when they could wait for someone to change their mind and possibly hammer town!ruma.
I'm conf town, Ruma was set up or scum.