Alright, your points are taken, I will drop it, I got it off my chest, I just hate how the pro-reprint people claim I'm acting on entitlement, bollocks, as said in my first response to this thread, it's a two way street friend, "pro reprinters" are therefore acting entitled to get cheap staples, nothing is stopping you from saving your money, and buying into a competitive deck, also, nothing is stopping you from jamming anything you want at a the kitchen table. It's called budgeting. Anyways appreciate the feedback, I will stop now as I know how vitriolic this topic gets. Apologies.
On topicish-is this set all reprints? Or will they be anything new or original?
Of course they aren't, but as a longtime collector, it'd be nice to not be seeing signs of unbridled reprinting. If I'm acting entitled to express my wish for my "precious" collection to retain some value, I fail to see how the same cannot be said for players who want their hands on cheap staples.
Of course it's a gamble, I'm just saying that imo I see writing on the wall that mtg's peak financially speaking has come and gone. I don't own power at all, I have a few decent cards, that's it, but I don't moan for power reprints because I understand that if I want something valuable it might cost me alot
But the player base is crying for reprints so rather than budget and save for the cards that would retain their value they'd rather pay for premium packs and give their money to wizards so they'll devalue collectors who paid retail price at release?
Sorry I'm venting here but I'm cashing out. I get that people want to play cards but I'm not giving wotc "retail price" for more sets that are just cherry picking the valuable from my collection.
my main concern is that I have too many card with the intent of making my changelings better and not enough changelings to benefit from them, also, I would like any suggestions that may help this deck against other tribal deck i,e merfolk, elf , goblin, giant. Thanks again!
i just slapped this deck together to see how i liked a few of the combos, has ran pretty impressively so far but i'd like to focus it in a bit more on the more effective aspect of the combo.
I really like playing around with the bombshell and sleeper, but only have one copy of each for the time being, I've yet to donate the crypt or lich for the win. It's kinda counter active but I like stealing a sleeper back and slapping footsteps, even nicer with paradox haze. any suggestions are appreciated.
i have 1 jushi, and he sat out of decks for the longest, i currently found him a spot in a R/U/B draw deck with Megrim, underworld dreams, niv-mizzet of the firemind, iron maiden, black vise, you see what i mean. He has come out during a game but i've yet to see if he's worth the spot.
I recentle built a deck kinda along the same lines. wound syphon mind be any good in there? extra juicy with a geth's grimoire out. I like unnerve more than skeins personally. With words of waste, it would be easy for the howltooth hollow ability if you had a way to discard youself. One with Nothing would fit the bill. I don't know if any of these ideas are disirable for that deck in particular but i thought that they could easily be implenmented into this sort of deck idea.
Haakon is also a recent addition, so are the 4 birds, I used to only run 2. Yosei wins games, followed footsteps almost always paints a bullseye on me instantly. I'm not sure which "flashy" cards i could cut, maybe stalking vengeance.
I like running the non-basic lands i've got and was acctually thinking of looking for 2 more gemstone caverns. Thanks for the input.
hello fellow Magicians!, long time casual player with some deck i've been runnin for quite a while that i'd appreciate any suggestions whether or not i use them.
Please for my sake use simple lingo, for instance, i don't know what you people mean by "metagame" *blushes*.
I've never put decklists on a forum like this before so i might not get the links right, also please keep in mind that the budget for improving these decks is fairly modest, i can't just run out and slap $100 bucks on 4 sweet old rares. I can and will however be trying to get my hands on a kokusho, and a karmic guide and some narcomoebas' for this deck i'm thinking.
My circle plays mainly multiplayer games of 3-4 players and sometimes duels. these guys play anything from counter/mill to tribal to just plain goofy combos. I thank you for your patience, and without further adeiu...the deck!
well that was exhausting. 60 card deck I believe. Thanks for your help
Just thought I'd add a bit of info on what i've done to the deck lately, I was running a couple zombifys instead of the conspiracy bidding combo, so I haven't gotten around to testing that aspect of the deck. It seems to work fairly well when it isn't shut down by a silly enchantment, none of the guiys in my play group use sideboards....yet
sorry guys upon my count, i'm missing a speel, and i believe that card is urza's incubator
On topicish-is this set all reprints? Or will they be anything new or original?
Of course it's a gamble, I'm just saying that imo I see writing on the wall that mtg's peak financially speaking has come and gone. I don't own power at all, I have a few decent cards, that's it, but I don't moan for power reprints because I understand that if I want something valuable it might cost me alot
Sorry I'm venting here but I'm cashing out. I get that people want to play cards but I'm not giving wotc "retail price" for more sets that are just cherry picking the valuable from my collection.
2x Runed Stalacite
1x Coat of Arms
1x Urzas Incubator
1x Mistform Warchief
1x Stormscape Familiar
2x Shapesharer
2x Woodland Changeling
1x Changeling Titan
1x Isao, Enlightened Bushi
1x Ravenous Baloth
1x Sosuke, Son of Seshiro
1x Haakon, Stromgald Scourge
1x Ghostly Changeling
1x Sunrise Sovereign
1x Steamflogger Boss
1x Changeling Berzerker
3x Avian Changeling
1x Artificial Evolution
2x Wings of Velis Vel
2x Rootgrapple
2x Ponder
1x Harmonize
1x Endemic Plague
3x Patriarch's Bidding
2x Conspiracy
1x Alpha Status
2x Oblivion Ring
4x Island
2x Forest
1x Swamp
1x Plains
2x Vivid Creek
2x Vivid Marsh
2x Vivid Grove
1x Vivid Meadow
1x Vivid Crag
2x Grand Coliseum
2x Shimmering Grotto
my main concern is that I have too many card with the intent of making my changelings better and not enough changelings to benefit from them, also, I would like any suggestions that may help this deck against other tribal deck i,e merfolk, elf , goblin, giant. Thanks again!
1x Deathrender
1x Colfenor's Urn
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Angel of Despair
1x Loxodon Heirarch
1x Spirit of the Night
1x Yosei, The Morning Star
2x Reya Dawnbringer
1x Bogardan Hellkite
1x Akroma, Angel of Fury
1x Stalking Vengeance
1x Shifty Doppelganger
1x Peregrine Drake
1x Mulldrifter
1x Venser, Shaper Savant
1x Narcomoeba
1x Body Double
4x Birds of Paradise
1x Verdant Force
1x Eternal Witness
1x Protean Hulk
2x Zombify
2x Aether Tide
1x Living End
2x Recurring Nightmare
2x Survival of the Fittest
1x Grave Pact
1x Angelic Chorus
4x Island
2x Plains
2x Forest
1x Swamp
2x Gemstone Caverns
2x Dromar's Cavern
1x Gemstone Mine
1x Breeding Pool
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Vivid Crag
1x Karplusan Forest
1x Salt Marsh
1x Teramorphic Expanse
1x City of Brass
Now the major differences are the jump to 4 buried alive, 4 BOP, and the 2 aether tides. I appreciate any and all suggestions please.
1x Bronze Bombshell
1x Jinxed Choker
2x Summoner's Egg
1x Tormod's Crypt
1x Evil-Eye of Orm's-by-Gore
1x Magus of the Abyss
1x Sleeper Agent
1x Phage the Untouchable
1x Sky Swallower
2x Grip of Amnesia
2x Boomerang
2x Dark Banishing
2x Diabolic Tutor
4x Donate
2x Illusions of Granduer
2x Followed Footsteps
2x Copy Enchantment
2x Endless Whispers
2x Paradox Haze
2x Reality Acid
1x Nefarious Lich
1x Forbidden Crypt
1x Seal of Doom
1x Control Magic
1x Confiscate
9x Swamp
I really like playing around with the bombshell and sleeper, but only have one copy of each for the time being, I've yet to donate the crypt or lich for the win. It's kinda counter active but I like stealing a sleeper back and slapping footsteps, even nicer with paradox haze. any suggestions are appreciated.
It would be back in play on my side right?
In the future, please edit your original post instead of double posting. Warning issued.
-pooispoois
I like running the non-basic lands i've got and was acctually thinking of looking for 2 more gemstone caverns. Thanks for the input.
Please for my sake use simple lingo, for instance, i don't know what you people mean by "metagame" *blushes*.
I've never put decklists on a forum like this before so i might not get the links right, also please keep in mind that the budget for improving these decks is fairly modest, i can't just run out and slap $100 bucks on 4 sweet old rares. I can and will however be trying to get my hands on a kokusho, and a karmic guide and some narcomoebas' for this deck i'm thinking.
My circle plays mainly multiplayer games of 3-4 players and sometimes duels. these guys play anything from counter/mill to tribal to just plain goofy combos. I thank you for your patience, and without further adeiu...the deck!
Recurring Nightmare
Basic Lands
2 Forest
2 Mountain
2 Island
1 Swamp
1 Plains
Non-Basic Lands
2 Gemstone Caverns
1 Gemstone Mine
1 Salt Marsh
1 City of Brass
1 Grand Coliseum
1 Karplusan Forest
1 Overgrown Tomb
2 Dromar's Cavern
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Shimmering Grotto
Creature Spells
1 Reya Dawnbringer
1 Yosei, the Morning Star
1 Haakon, Stromgald Scourge
1 Bogardan Hellkite
1 Molten Firebird
1 Akroma, Angel of Fury
1 Stalking Vengeance
1 Narcomoeba
1 Shifty Doppelganger
1 Body Double
1 Mulldrifter
1 Angel of Despair
1 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Verdant Force
1 Protean Hulk
1 Eternal Witness
4 Birds of Paradise
Sorcery Spells
3 Buried Alive
2 Patriarch's Bidding
Enchantments
3 Survival of the Fittest
2 Recurring Nightmare
2 Conspiracy
1 Grave Pact
1 Angelic Chorus
1 Followed Footsteps
1 Pattern of Rebirth
Artifacts
1 Deathrender
1 Colfenor's Urn
well that was exhausting. 60 card deck I believe. Thanks for your help
Just thought I'd add a bit of info on what i've done to the deck lately, I was running a couple zombifys instead of the conspiracy bidding combo, so I haven't gotten around to testing that aspect of the deck. It seems to work fairly well when it isn't shut down by a silly enchantment, none of the guiys in my play group use sideboards....yet
sorry guys upon my count, i'm missing a speel, and i believe that card is urza's incubator