Prismatic Vista is a shoe-in in any deck with basics. It’s SO good. No more running terramorphic expanse and evolving wilds to fix your basics! All my 2+ color decks love this!
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May 4, 2019Skello496 posted a message on Most interesting Mono Red or Mono Green commanders?I run a Nylea, God of the Hunt +1/+1 counters deck that’s loads of fun, using Nylea to always grant trample is a huge benefit.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
I also run a Krenko, Mob Boss mono red goblins deck that’s LOADS of fun. It’s definitely my favorite deck, and it’s a fast win, usually turn 5-6.
May 2, 2019Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from Cerebrophage »So, my brother is really good at making decks you can do nothing to fight. I need cards that either exile or remove nontarget and nonland. The reason being, he combines darksteel forge with enchantments or artifacts that make him hexproof. I already have merciless eviction and chaos bane or whatever that black: sacrifice half your permanents is called. But the problem is, I need more. I can't rely on two cards to take him out when his deck pratically plays itself. I'm open to suggestions.
TLDR; Need AOE removal that does not have keywords "Destroy" or "Target". Or, just single "target" removal cards without the targetting part. Such as, "Player removes one card from their board." or something like that.
Tragic Arrogance does what you want.
Apr 28, 2019Honestly make goblins a sub theme, the ability of cards like Krenko, Mob Boss to churn out tokens is ridiculous, and there are enough token makers with goblins to fuel your brudiclad very quickly. Don’t go all out, but run Both Krenkos, siege-gang, And Beetleback along with some of the instants and sorcerers that make them. It’ll cause some quick token creation to capitalize off of Brudiclad’s ability when you get a token of, say, Blightsteel.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Also, definitely run God-Pharaoh’s Gift, that’ll allow you to get tokens of creatures with great abilities for less mana than Helm will.
Apr 3, 2019Posted in: Commander (EDH)
I’m just going to add him to Krenko 1.0, he’s got some really good value for his cost (especially with the trigger being on attack, not damage), so totally going into the deck, but he’s not strong enough to be the commander. As is, Krenko 1.0 has enough lords to make him very worthwhile.
Mar 15, 2019Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from Outcryqq »Whomever changed the title to “Boros” from “Boris” I love you. Every time I saw this title, and after the first time I clicked on it and realized the OP meant to type Boros, I felt like I was getting stabbed in the eyeball.
Actually I did type Boros, but my stupid phone autocorrected. it Bugged me just as much as it bugged everyone else.
Mar 13, 2019Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from FoxOfWar »Deck viability should not Ride Down on others having fun with the game. At least in theory, most play Commander to have a fun pastime.
Does MLD and Winter Orbing make Boros midrange-aggro style more viable? Yep. Is it any fun for anyone else, at your average table? I don't think you can make that argument that much.
I mean if we’re going with the argument of what’s fun For everyone else then T3 doomsday shouldn’t be allowed, najeela infinite combo shouldn’t be allowed, Selvala combo shouldn’t be allowed, teferi chainveil shouldn’t be allowed. That’s really not a very good argument in general, because what’s “fun” changes by individual, playgroup and meta.
I would, however, agree that cEDH shouldn’t be in this conversation. We’re talking from a casual commander perspective, not from the perspective of turn 3 combo wins.
Again, all I am saying is that restricting the tools that a color group has through cultural bias is limiting what that combination of colors can accomplish. Which means then calling those colors terrible is a cultural issue.
As for my playgroup, I would say 75-80%. We have like 5 cEDH level decks and dozens of highly tuned decks between myself and 3 friends, and we allow MLD and the like. And honestly, that has made for more fun games. Those strategies can be frustrating, but it’s allowed my friend’s Isamaru, Hound of Konda deck to keep pace and win against any sub cEDH deck in our pool. I know that’s mono white, but it works the same with Boros colors. I plan on finishing my Boros deck as soon as it’s within budget and testing my theory.
Mar 12, 2019Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from ilovesaprolings »Quote from Xcric »Quote from Sheldon »Can a mod change the name of the thread so that I don't keep thinking someone is bashing Russians?
i'll bite and take the warning and/or ban.
don't do it. make him suffer for his article that essentially decry's all of r/w's valid strategies, creating the culture problem being argued
i'm talking about this one:
many of his you shouldn't play cards are actually quite valid to r/w, but articles like this, from someone with a platform like his, speak volumes to push against acceptance of valid game plans to r/w. his words have weight.
Man what a biased point.
A black card is on the list too. A green card is on the list too. 3 blue cards are on the list. 3 colorless are on the list.
This thread made me realize that the only culture problem is with people obsessed with boros.
Do you really pretend to win aggroing with anya, merciless angel, savannah lions and flametongue kavu? Do you really think that an armaggedon is the only thing needed to make these cards viable?
It's like a blue player whining because he can't win with chisei, heart of oceans.
Some cards suck, deal with it. All the boros commanders are terrible, deal with it.
I think you’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not trying to say that Boros is the greatest thing ever, in fact no one here has said that. No one has seemed even a little Boros obsessed to me. What I’m seeing is a discussion about whether or not Boros is as terrible as people say.
Now, I again will say, Boros is the worst color combination, and yes it does have commander issues in addition to other problems, BUT, I do believe that being more accepting of strategies that allow the Boros player to keep pace with the game *reduces* that gap. I’m not saying Boros is the most amazing thing ever, just that if we are a more accepting culture it doesn’t have to be the worst thing ever. Boros is fun! It’s got some fun cards and some fun themes (soldiers!), it just can’t keep up without slowing down everyone else via stax effects and MLD. I’m not saying either that you should put all your hopes into MLD, just that it’s a tool that is underutilized because of the EDH culture.
And yes, I know that Sheldon (thanks for commenting by the way, and I look forward to playing with you again at SCGCon) thinks MLD is horrible, and I respect that opinion. I just believe that it can be a part of the Boros toolbox that can help take away the “Boros sucks” mentality and make it more of a viable color scheme, though still not the best.
Also, I’m not agreeing with the comment about the article, I just don’t believe the comment about “people loving Boros are a problem” was fair and wanted to respond to that.
Mar 3, 2019Honestly I love cards that create alternate win conditions, but I love that they all have other requirements, such as filibuster counters and X life at your upkeep. A card that straight wins would just be too much.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Mar 3, 2019Again, you and others seem to think that I’m arguing for Boros being the best colors in Magic. I’m not, they’re not the best by far, and really they’re probably the worst. What I’m saying is that making it’s strongest assets culturally unacceptable is the reason why we all say it sucks, when it doesn’t have to if we are more accepting of meaner strategy.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Mar 2, 2019Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from ToSGod »So recently I've been a rut of what to build next. I have an actual deck and I flop through many other decks never seeming to be happy. I have a very Controlish Damia deck and I want something different in comparison. So I would like to build a tribal deck. And I thought GOBLINS!
Now all this has caused some discussion with a friend of mine who is the best Goblin to use a general. And with that brings to the point. Which Wort is a better General? Or is it something of Mono Red?
Wort, Boggart Auntie
Wort, the Raidmother
Krenko, Mob Boss
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Technician
Or do you think a Elf or Merfolk Tribal is better?
Okay so I see tons of input here, but I have to give my two cents.
First off, background:
I’m a huge goblin fan!! I currently run two goblin-themed EDH decks, Krenko and Wort, Boggart Auntie. I also run a pauper goblin deck, for a long time I ran a kitchen-table 60 card goblin deck, and I have plans currently for a Wort the Raidmother deck!
My input is as follows:
IF you want to run tribal goblins, play Krenko. He’s ridiculously fast and fun, and flinging tons of Goblins at people is pure delight. I beat a 4 man table at SCGCon on turn 5 with Krenko against Bennie Smith, which was quite entertaining.
Now, if you are looking beyond pure tribal, I would recommend Wort, Boggart Auntie or Wort the Raidmother.
My Auntie deck started off as goblin combo (which was AWESOME), using tutors to grab Kiki and a combo piece or Krenko and an untapper to then combo off and win, which was a fun deck! The problem with that, however, was that to really run it smoothly I had to incorporate tons of tutors into the deck, which was just too expensive. SO... now it’s Wort Aristocrats! This is now tons of fun, but it requires being slightly less tribal than you seem to want to be (can you say Conspiracy?). The problem with running Wort as straight tribal is that you can only get one goblin per turn. And yes, you do get some other really fantastic goblins like Earwig Squad, but that’s honestly not enough to make her work. Auntie is fun, but as straight goblin tribal she doesn’t have the speed that Krenko does, and returning one goblin per turn is honestly just not powerful enough on its own to balance out the speed drop. Krenko, on the other hand, is a powerhouse that lets you always have access to the most powerful goblin in magic.
Raidmother is tons of fun (from my build i’m Looking at), but it also needs some non-goblin creatures if you really want to take advantage of having green by copying ramp spells and the like. It’s a primarily goblin with other green tokens thrown in deck. It does allow you doubling season and parallel lives, which is huge, but honestly it still won’t be as fast as Krenko, even once it gets as explosive.
As for Ib, he’s meh. I’ve almost taken him out of Krenko.
Kiki-Jiki is ridiculous, but he again won’t be straight tribal, because Kiki wins by combos, and he does that best with Combat Celebrant or Zealous Conscripts, neither of which fits your goal for goblin tribal. Also, you can’t tutor for them in mono red.
All in all, Krenko is your best bet, you get access to all the best goblins still, and he’s the most explosive.
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