MTG Salvation

Definitely an interesting design. My bar for artifacts is slightly slower as I felt Tezzeret, Tolarian Academy and Tinker decks were lacking targets.

My initial reaction is it feels a bit too restrictive to be good.

I like the card, But I feel it might be too slow in faster cubes.

How does the ability itself work? Did they come up with an evergreen keyword?

I'm actually curious how well storm fairs with the limited amount of fast mana in the form of Cabal/ Dark Ritual, Petal, Lotus etc

Omg I am so happy about your updates to includes storm/ combo. I'm going to keep a close eye on your new updates

Especially curious about how the aristocrats deck fairs.

Every time there is a ban announcement, I find the first thing the forum freaks out about is "OMFG TRON". Seriously can we stop the tron panic.

We still have Storm, Burn and Affinity all strong vs Tron.

Eldrazi Tron just lost one of its best matchup in UR phoenix.

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I think that mox opal and ancient stirrings have been cards that people have complained about for almost as long as I started playing modern in 2015, so maybe if looting got the ban hammer then their time is coming soon

I would like to see cavern get banned as it makes weird gameplay IMO and makes control a bit worse against tribal decks but I think it's MUCH lower than the first 2 cards

I think Goryo might be alot safer now without Faithless Looting.

Its pretty clear that with the Faithless Looting Ban/ Standard Energy + Ramnup Bans, Wizards is willing to more aggressively go after decks.

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I think banning looting is just reckless. If I understand this corectly, banning looting makes these decks unplayable:

- Mardu Pyromancer
- UR Phoenix/ Mono Red Phoenix
- Grixis Goryo's Vengence
- Dredge
- Hollowed One

This is going after way too many decks at the same time. I think they should have just banned Hogaak and unbanned stone forge and left it there.

I feel that while it's unfortunate that there were so many decks that had to suffer because of the sins of Hogaak, I feel that looting just caused too many decks to be absurd in dredge, Hogaak (by that dredge vine as well) and even Hollow one. TBH even though I had success playing Mardu Pyro, I certainly won't be missing the other decks being weakened by the ban

I think people are discussing izzet charm in izzet phoenix which is a lot slower but mono red might be out of luck

I think this might be my second favourite B and R update behind the JTMS/BBE unban

I also like to point out:

- Ancient Stirrings
- Mox Opal
(Explicitly mentioned in a B&R as dangerous cards)

- Cavern of Souls
- Goryo's Vengeance
(Discussed extensively on forums as potentially dangerous cards)

Considering how wide reaching this faithless looting ban is and how they have explicitly discussed Mox Opal and Ancient Stirrings as potentially dangerous cards, I think its not unreasonable to expect a Mox Opal/ Stirrings ban in the near future.

I think banning looting is just reckless. If I understand this corectly, banning looting makes these decks unplayable:

- Mardu Pyromancer
- UR Phoenix/ Mono Red Phoenix
- Grixis Goryo's Vengence
- Dredge
- Hollowed One

This is going after way too many decks at the same time. I think they should have just banned Hogaak and unbanned stone forge and left it there.

The key I think is "These have all turned out to be reasonable.". If you enjoy it, then why not?

The other possibility you could consider is you have a base cube and you have a possible "packages cube" for the special events.

For people arguing for the faithless looting ban, I just want to point out something:

Jund, ETron, UW control have gotten a lot of new tools recently. Good graveyard strategies put a reasonable sideboard tax on these fair decks. Two years ago, fair decks were really struggling as their sideboard slots were heavily taxed and they were not able to cover the majority of the field. Currently, I would argue these fair decks have gotten alot stronger and banning looting will significantly benefit these fair decks and allow them to cover the entire field without conceding too many matchups.

I think a Hogaak ban is the reasonable approach to the format but I don';t think its reasonable to go that far with weakening phoneix/.dredge

This card can make midrange vs midrange brawls into a complete grind where neither side can gain any meaningful advantage and makes games take way too long.

I think I like this more than Boros Charm. Pretty cool card.

I think with cards like this, the 5 variants of Goblin Rabble Master, Hero of Bladehold + tokens, we can easily support an attack with 3 creatures archetype (Battalion?)

Also pretty cool aggro card

I like this card alot:

1) It can go infinite and combo with Time Vault. (very high ceiling)
2) Untap Pod/ Vannifar
3) Untap land/ mana rock that produces 2-3 mana

At worst its a 2 mana, tap add one mana. (which is a very low floor)

I like playing against any deck where my gameplan post and pre-board isn't "okay if you have it, I lose. nothing I can do"