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Man why did nobody ever think of using graveyard hate against KCI? It was so simple? all this time? That's some revolutionary stuff right there.

Side note: I'm quite looking forward to the next state of modern thread. Imagine the uproar if wizards announces 'no changes'.

try extirpate with split second against it... But please be not angry if he response to your split second with Kci... Wait, it is split second.... Yeah he can do it because Kci don't use the stack. Then ask again why no gravehate helps easy

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Dungrove elder is not so good anymore against control like in the past because of terminus.

Dungrove dies to Verdict and Wrath just the same and doesn't come out soon enough for the mana difference to matter. Please elaborate what you mean. I definitely agree the game plan for control is different than it was pre terminus builds but Dungrove does the same thing.

no it doesn't do the same. If you played dungrove in the past, it was a must answer. So they tapped out VS. You and the last damage I often do with haste and sometimes + rancor on it... Now it happened as example 3 times opt into terminus against me. If you have this experience, you will think the same. By the way, even in the past dungrove was not sure in our deck, why it should be after now 2% more worse maybe?

Bridge is great? I don't see this. Cards like trophy, knight of autumn and abrade are new good Mainboard cards killing easy bridge. It can be good, but it is definitely worse then in the past.

Dungrove elder is not so good anymore against control like in the past because of terminus.

https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=20956&d=338958&f=MO here is my list

6 of this care about grave, 2 not. This is what we all need to understand. Put in main gravehate, it is not narrow

If you cut gravehate, you will die against 70% of the field. This argument is an argument of past metas 4 years bevore this. Grave is key in our time... Wellcome in the reality, Wellcome in the future

Hey guys, where are all our dredge is to strong guys, and it is not only flavor of month speaker? Seems dredge is only good, like 362 other decks.

40-60 each week twice is a lot for a shop. Why did they not show on mtg Top8 lists?

OK, tournament is over. Good news:"I am 5 time now in this tournament series in a row at top 4". Bad news:"because of heavy snow, only 18 player this time". Played vs. Ur Phoenix 1:1, 1 turn more and he is death sure. Second match vs dredge and normally easy, but to much beer yesterday on a festival is never good. Lost 1:2. But then I beat ponza and 2 Tron players, so I was able to be finish with 3:1:1. List will come like allways on mtg Top8 in some days

Still same bad card. Adding an extra maybe possibility at 4 mana doesn't change anything. You can add a third mode for 6 mana and mode number 4 at 8 mana... It stays bad. You play red? So use bolt for 1 mana. Kills creatures and walker for only 1 mana

Hey guys, how are your experiences VS. Phoenix decks? I didn't played this deck in the last 2 months since Phoenix growth up. My only experience against is with green stompy and red prison. I have a tournament on Saturday and will go with stompy, but I don't like my less experience against Phoenix. My side will include this time 4 surgicals too because of it and dredge/Kci. I play 4 relic main instead of chalice, but I think chalice is better vs. Phoenix and relic maybe to slow... But even this I am not sure. Normally I knew which decks I can beat and which ones kill me

I will try 3-4 magma jets because of this inconsistent problem and cut abrade main

My problem with this deck is bad topdecks. It starts great often and turns into horror. Why we don't play magma jet because of this problem?

It is too cheap! I was angry to see how much it dropped, because I want sell my playset. I am waiting now till it climb higher. So buy it now