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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    I hope they try this. 12 new cards to put 1 card in grave is lol. Looting can this much better
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on UW Control
    No matter which deck I read here or in discords, all of them think they have more benefit from new rule. So I am sceptical. By the way, only a opinion of a non uw player. We will see in the future which decks are really favored after London. Each deck has cards which they won't in opening hand or cards they need in opening. This is not really a benefit, it's normal with new rule
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    But I do this maybe 1-2 days and after this is over for the next year. Some people here and in real life seems doing nothing other anymore, only ban ban ban all day, all month, all years. If people can't see difference in this behavior, they should try thinking about again. So it's enough now to me here for a while. I'm out, enjoy your bans.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Did you understand what I sayed? It's not this tread alone...it is everywhere now and each time I will play in each store.. Everywhere. This happens all time after a ban. People don't be silent, they want more and more bans. Yeah I know, if I don't like it.. I don't need to play. Is it this what comes next? I will play and not be bombarded with bantalkings. Crazy, I know. This tread is not the problem alone, it is part of it. But maybe I should not enter a store too... Yeah, great suggestions... But maybe, only maybe... You all should be a little bit less crying about other decks and more playing and enyoying
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Wotc decide, really? We all knew this... But maybe I am sick of reading for bans day after day and if I go to tournaments I hear them talking about bans and even people playing only commander do this I feel. It seems to many players wait only for bans and till it happens they talk like this game is only to be banned. Come on guys, take your time bevore crying and let other players take a breath and let them play
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Maybe wotc should let open 1 slot in each deck till 6 months bevore it comes out to put 1 good anti card. As example 1 slot in horizon open... See Phoenix is strong... Make a card versus them in this last spot. So it could be a reaction on current meta instead planing 2 years bevore all the cards. Why not try new ways? Allways bannings is bad as a answer
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    My question was, How often we ban cards till it is to much? 2 months after last ban, people cryed for another as example. Noone say we should never ban, but which speed? Is it to much for waiting example 1 year? Look at Lear the cat, do you think he stops after Phoenix ban? He say kill dredge too and I am sure even after both banned, he will find another deck we need to ban.. because his plans supporting own decks never will be true this way
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    But it is important to know how many new cards after 2 years needed in the deck. If it is banned, you don't invest anymore. Another point is, if you loose your deck... You can quit or buy another one. Second choice means a huge invest, so you sell your cards. Which? Cards of your banned deck. This you don't need if you are rich and you use several different decks. Banning is loosing... If you can wait years it can change.. Or not. I can't see future, but I know I need now money if my deck is banned (no I don't own dredge or Phoenix) and not a useless deck
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from Lear_the_cat »
    Quote from idSurge »
    Quote from Aegraen »

    The deck was 50% at the latest GP, with the deck warping itself to win in the mirror, and the format warping around itself to beat it...yet it still posted a greater than 50 win%. That's impressive. If you don't cherry pick your data Phoenix has been running between 53-58%. You can argue not to ban something without resorting to obviously ridiculous lies and half truths.


    I just dont see why the 'b' word is being used at all. Nobody is asking for bans that I can see.

    I want Phoenixes and dredge be banned, so what? And I'm pretty sure there're other people that want bans too but not posting here.
    So please, stop saying that "WE" don't want bans.
    only Phoenix and dredge? Let's ban storm too preventive to be sure, because if dredge and Phoenix dyes this is good for storm. Maybe soon you can play all day long against your own deck if this is the way you want modern
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    And how often we do this? Yes you can say money is not important, but you can tell this after another ban guys like you and me loosing a lot of money.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from tronix »
    Quote from Mtgthewary »
    Who cares? Don't ride ban train or force it... Whoooo cares? We hate bans
    not caring, or not wanting bans is completely fine. im personally pretty ambivalent about it. i played the deck for a few weeks then sold the birds and manamorposes into the hype.

    the point is that no matter what your stance is you have to acknowledge that its success in high profile tournaments is absurdly high. which includes the fact that decks in the past had cards banned under similar circumstances.

    maybe its just a coincidence, maybe the format is correcting itself, or maybe WAR and MH1 will shift the format somewhere else. we can hope these things are true, but cant be certain about them. similarly if you assume that phoenix maintains this established trajectory the result would have the deck sporting 30+ GP top8s within a calender year. so you gotta question whether you are fine with that, and reconcile that other previous decks/cards were not given similar treatment. likely to never see the light of day again given wizards stubborn adherence to conservative ban list management.
    and why we talk now about bevore this fantasy year is over? I knew so many people meantime which lost decks to bans and each time people cry for more and more. If you destroy the evidence of costumer, you can play soon standard like my mate after he lost his deck. If you ban each year minimum 1 deck worth 1000 Euro, you frightene people to invest in a long term. They will go out after such an experience. I think a lot of people (not all) calling to bans only want their tier 4 deck more successfully... But they will stay garbage and so they want more bans
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Who cares? Don't ride ban train or force it... Whoooo cares? We hate bans
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from Simto »
    Yeah, and Whir Prison isn't even represented that much in the top of tournament listings I see.

    I just know they've mentioned Mox Opal in pretty much every ban post saying it's in The Eye of Sauron's gaze. I just think banning it would tear out Artifact strategies from the meta completely.

    And yeah, people complain about Phoenix decks, but if fiahtless looting or something else like that got banned, another archetype or card would pop up and people would call for that to be banned too hehe.

    I just love artifact and colourless decks, so I don't want Mox to be banned. Like mentioned earlier, artifact decks aren't really having strong showings compared to other archetypes anyway.
    I would just be sad if I sink money into a playset and they get banned hehe. I'm really hooked on colourless decks, especially with the new Karn and Ugin Smile
    but that's happened with Kci. It was killed and if it was mox only, they could survived. Now whir prison come with a very high winrate, and even like Kci not played much at beginning, they will rise and rise... Till maybe next banning. I don't want this, so if this will really come true anytime in future, please ban mox and free Kci instead
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Colorless Eldrazi Stompy
    We hit so many jackpots since some time, I don't know soon which jackpot I should try first
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from Simto »
    I hope Mox Opal doesn't get banned. Colourless decks got two new very good cards in Ugin and Karn that can give them a boost, but I always hope attention is taken off Mox Opal hehe. I just love artifact and eldrazi decks and don't want to see them get a smack in the face.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the colorless decks. Tron and Whir Prison (plus others) are definitely powerful, Tier 1 Modern strategies that do broken things. But they appear to just be some of the many powerful, Tier 1 Modern strategies that do broken things which Wizards wants to encourage in this format. Only one Opal deck has strong performance numbers right now, Whir Prison, and that deck hasn't even hit early-2018 KCI levels yet. Given that KCI took 12 months of sustained overperformance and win-rate dominance to enter the ban crosshairs, I'm pretty confident saying Whir Prison is probably fine at current levels. No other Opal deck is even close to Prison's performance, and even collectively they probably have less metagame share than something like Dredge, GDS, Humans, or Tron individually, to say nothing of Phoenix.
    only because Kci was banned away. It could be survive if they targeted mox instead. It's like banning Phoenix and talking after how fine looting is
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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