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Treasure Cruisin' Modern Big Red
 
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  • posted a message on Pyro Prison || Goblinized Mono-Red Control : The Sideboard Deck
    My short story. Lost 0:4 vs. 2 pyromancer, affinity, RW homebrew. Seems i am really Bad with this deck. My only win was turn 1 rabble game 1
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Stompy
    Jeff hoogland played yesterday 4:1 with green stompy
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Yeah, we all know this 32 Tier 0 Decks with moon Main. Realy?
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    I like the New bridge deck. Each of you say: "you need only 8 removal Main and 3 Side vs humans..", now i can say:" play 8 gravehate Main and some in Side. Where is your Problem? Lol. It helps too vs topdecks like UW and kci, and hollow one, mardu,storm.. so its your Problem if you not interact. How many gravehate you all play Main? Go and change it bevore banmania
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from idSurge »
    Humans is good, but its hard to say its 'too good' at this point. Its simply the best at what it does.

    That's been used here plenty of times in the past to justify a ban. It shouldn't have been a good enough reason then, and it's still not a good reason now.
    why all talk about banning? It seems i am the only one not asking for Bans. So stop this guys and dont cry banmania after crying for stirrings ban. But we need some sort of Hate soon because of humans and maybe stirrings
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from Mtgthewary »
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from gkourou »
    2 Humans, 1 KCI, 1 Hollow one amongst Modern decklists at Top 4.

    https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/pt25a/top-4-decklists-2018-08-04

    3 Sai, Master Thopterist in the KCI sideboard!

    On the one hand, these results should be considered fairly meaningless because it's a team event. Both Hollow One and Humans had very middling performance going in, and Humans had so many pilots on Day 1 that it would be surprising for at least 1 not to make T4.

    On the other hand, KCI continues a multi-month stretch of being the secret best deck in the format. Although I'm willing to dismiss the Humans and H1 results in a team setting, KCI just continues to look ridiculous. If Stark's team wins the event, the KCI-targeted ban calls will be very loud. I am unlikely to disagree with them, and I think more GP this year will continue to show Stirrings and KCI/Gx Tron/other Stirrings decks as frontrunning archetypes by a large degree.
    are you serious?? 17% day 1 and 50% top4 and you say its because so many play them? Now you have your data asking bevore, you need to accept now only

    It's a Team event. T4 results dont matter. Day 1 results dont matter either. Day 1 results have never mattered. Stop warping the most cherrypicked datasets to fit your anti-Humans narrative.
    stop cherrypicking and doing stuff you critizes if other people do this. Since several tournaments you say now:" it was only this tournament blabla,it was only Team blabla...". Stop this ignorance Please only to force your narrativ vs stirrings. Humans becoming more problematic each day and we all can See this. Its only the playstyle of humans you and other like and helping ignoring facts
    Infraction issued for trolling/flaming. --CavalryWolfPack
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from gkourou »
    2 Humans, 1 KCI, 1 Hollow one amongst Modern decklists at Top 4.

    https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/pt25a/top-4-decklists-2018-08-04

    3 Sai, Master Thopterist in the KCI sideboard!

    On the one hand, these results should be considered fairly meaningless because it's a team event. Both Hollow One and Humans had very middling performance going in, and Humans had so many pilots on Day 1 that it would be surprising for at least 1 not to make T4.

    On the other hand, KCI continues a multi-month stretch of being the secret best deck in the format. Although I'm willing to dismiss the Humans and H1 results in a team setting, KCI just continues to look ridiculous. If Stark's team wins the event, the KCI-targeted ban calls will be very loud. I am unlikely to disagree with them, and I think more GP this year will continue to show Stirrings and KCI/Gx Tron/other Stirrings decks as frontrunning archetypes by a large degree.
    are you serious?? 17% day 1 and 50% top4 and you say its because so many play them? Now you have your data asking bevore, you need to accept now only
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Hear hear!

    Do we have any Day 2 numbers? If not, this is yet another alarmist and biased post based on one of the least representative PT datasets we've ever seen.

    A) It's a TEAM event. As many Modern players have commented before, particularly at previous team events across formats, we have no idea how individual decks are performing.
    B) It appears to be based on Day 1 numbers exclusively. By this logic, we should have banned out Abzan in PT FRF 2015 when it had 25%+ metagame share of both Day 1 and Day 2.

    PT data is already a bit complicated as it is, because you have 6 Limited rounds propping up 10 Modern rounds. But at least there we can separate out the Modern performances from the Limited ones, and we know Wizards cares about PT T8s on their own. But add in the fact that this is a team event PLUS a Day 1 dataset, and these kinds of posts are all but meaningless.

    Even with Day 2 numbers, which I haven't seen yet and don't think we have, the team nature of this event almost completely discredits any results it produces. The only events that matter so far for determining what is truly viable/bad/busted in Modern would be GP, MTGO MOCS/Challenges/PPTQs, and the previous PT. And all of those events paint a very healthy picture with the possible exception of Stirrings decks. I am all for serious discussions of Stirrings. There is actual evidence to discuss that card. But Humans? Based on Team data? Team Day 1 data?? That is not a credible argument.

    EDIT: That said, SFM ban is RIDICULOUS in this format. But we knew that months ago and the PT wasn't needed to change that picture.
    lol, now you do the same you critized bevore....only a Team event....we doesnt knew day 2...all the arguments you talked bevore sorry, this is cherrypicking! You ignore the metashare and succes of humans
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Colorless Eldrazi Stompy
    Quote from bmchu168 »
    Do you guys have the same complaints with Elves/Merfolk as Humans? Spirits is similar but we talked about how the guys don't get as big.
    no because they dont push other creatures. I mean as an example if you kill key cards like Lord of Atlantis, all other creatures loose his abilitys, but if you kill thalias Leutnant Rest dont loose anythink they Gained. If you kill kitesal, you gain back your card but champion and Leutnant keeps the power of entering firebooter...so you need now 2 additional removal instead 1
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Thats the Problem. You cant talk civil without 34 people crying banmania. No it is not
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Ok, storm plays now 4 grapeshot and 4 bolt, merfolk needs only 4 dismember and 4 spatial, death and taxes 4 path and 4 dismember, coco the same... and so on...how many needs humans? Nothing? seems fair. Problem is NOT removal...its creatures with all you need. They are to many good creatures...spells with bodys all in one. We need Hate, because good creatures for humans coming all sets now. Manaproblems dont exist for them anymore too and this is for me the real unfair Problem.we even cant counter this nonsense. When it is to much? Begin printing Hate now bevore to late
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Only 8 removal Main? And 3 side? THX a lot...so easy...we all need 8 removal Main except humans. If we play all 4 ghost quarter and 4 tectonic edge, and 3 damping sphere Side... tron is not a Problem too. Seems solutions are so easy. Maybe 8 gravehate main too vs. All this gravebased decks? What do you think why we cannot do this all gkouro?
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    What should this "lie" about humans done nothing in the last weeks still here?? I checked 7 (seven) inventional in a row ( last ones) bevore stopped..do you know which deck allways was in top 8? Only humans! Not kci, not tron. Deck on decline, lol. Please argue with facts guys and not with opinions
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Colorless Eldrazi Stompy
    Mimic is a nonbo with ORB too.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Colorless Eldrazi Stompy
    Yeah sure it won a lot games, but its more difficult to See which games you lost because no relic or not enough creatures because of chalice. But lets not begin this Diskussion again. Everyone should play how he will
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
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