I thought it was explained. Anyway, I made that list by copy paste the names from Opening post, and then cut and paste them to their group. That was the mistake. He should be in the null/neutral group.
@Highroller ignoring the hedge do you disagree with the analysis underneath it? Anyway it's easy to be shameless when you have nothing to be ashamed of!
Fuwa reread done. She has 1.5 ridiculously scummy posts (for the same reason in fact!) but otherwise actually reads reasonably well. She's not exactly present but she's doing thing that feel like they are in the right direction. That said the readslist in 371 is terribad. Atog having a town read is not a good look at all. Then in her most recent post Rhand pointed out the problems with it pretty well. I'm only giving half credit though because by her standards it's actually a decent amount of effort which is a town indicator.
@EtR What's your current read on Elijah and Highroller? (and me, maybe.. if you want to do three)
Highroller I'm coming around on. I didn't like his first few posts, but he's said some good things recently and I like his stance on Gozer. I have him closer to town than scum.
Elijah I still think is scum and he has done nothing to change my mind. In fact, I can't think of anything relevant that he's done since I took my vote of him to vote for you.
For you, I still believe you to be scum. There was a lot that you didn't comment on during your initial catch up post. It felt like a lot of questions for the sake of questions. I also am concerned with some of your wording as I've pointed out.
@highroller: Of course I thought the votes were suspicious. I was trying to get ETR to elaborate on his thoughts on who is more likely to be scum.
I'm not sure, but with interactions it will be a lot easier to tell soon. If I were forced to guess now, I would say Tom, but I haven't been reading Tom as scum. So it's a big
yo what's suspicious about wagoning one of my scumreads?
It wasn't that you voted for Rod specifically, it was the manner. It was a naked vote with no further justification in what felt like a "safe" time to do it.
I'm still inclined to believe Rod is just bad town at this point.
My gut says this is scum post.
Idk, it feels like you know what Rod will flip. If he flips scum, then you have established his bad play, but if he flips town, you would be in the I-got-it-right-so-listen-to-me kind of group. To me this sounds more like you just don't want to vote him.
We're at a point of the game where everyone needs to have an opinion on Rodemy.
This:
Quote from Elijah »
i'll keep it real with you tomo salamo i havent been keeping up but remember a few rod posts. they rang like level 1 inno villa rather than some sort of wolf, and i wasnt feeling it.
Isn't going to cut it.
Elijah, Tubba, Atog!Slot, Fuwa, Ruma, RE, and Terry need to take hard stances on it. I know some of them have talked about him and taken soft stances but at this point I need to know why each of you aren't voting for Rodemy.
@Fuwa not to speak for EtR but doing so anyway, because "can't see town in X" reads like a very very strong scum read so not accompanying it with a vote is a strange look.
Ah, that makes sense.
I usually see a post between town-idk-scum.
So just because I don't read posts as town, doesn't mean I'm reading them as scum.
I feel a little detached from the thread. I read everything/caught up but it seems like I'm not getting it. I feel like the Highroller-Rodemy interactions made me like Highroller as town, but it doesn't really help me read Rodemy. And now I see he's a scumread to most. The lack of contesting wagon worries me. (Just realized you said the same thing)
@Fuwa
I don't feel like you are reading the thread? I've explained the reads on high/elijah, and I've explained the read on you. If they are your townreads and that is why you questioned them, I feel like you should have also questioned the read on yourself?
I'm too used to being scumread, maybe.
I thought it made sense, given I think I'm being awkward as well (more like I laughed when I saw the word awkward instead of scum - haha)
Most of it comes from I don't think I can do anything about the read on me at this point. I don't think I have done anything good enough.
@EtR What's your current read on Elijah and Highroller? (and me, maybe.. if you want to do three)
Missed this. I'm terrible at tone, so I avoid it unless it's proven to be a reliable tell for that player.
Then what do you make of my read on you and its reasoning?
I wouldn't say I'm good at reading tone, but it's something I sort of just try to do instead of any other way to scumhunt. saaa~~~
Your read on me was "awkward". I don't really know what to comment on that. I did fluff (which I enjoy terribly more than actually playing the game but try my best to not do it), and I might have missed Rodemy's response to my question. Or if he posted something that answers it before my post.
As for my thoughts on Rodemy~
Initially I had him in town lean for his early votes. I kinda had this thought that town likes wagon so that's that. His post in #22 feels townish too. Highroller's point on him makes me wonder though. So idk. After reading Highroller's post, I can't see town in Rodemy anymore? Maybe an after effect? haha
This feels like a bus to me. FUWA hasn't really commented on Rodemy much, just probing and asking questions about others thoughts on him. My biggest concern is that he "can't see town in Rodemy" but didn't move his vote. Can I get some other thoughts? Am I tunneling?
I think you are. Why do I have to move votes there?
Missed this. I'm terrible at tone, so I avoid it unless it's proven to be a reliable tell for that player.
Then what do you make of my read on you and its reasoning?
I wouldn't say I'm good at reading tone, but it's something I sort of just try to do instead of any other way to scumhunt. saaa~~~
Your read on me was "awkward". I don't really know what to comment on that. I did fluff (which I enjoy terribly more than actually playing the game but try my best to not do it), and I might have missed Rodemy's response to my question. Or if he posted something that answers it before my post.
As for my thoughts on Rodemy~
Initially I had him in town lean for his early votes. I kinda had this thought that town likes wagon so that's that. His post in #22 feels townish too. Highroller's point on him makes me wonder though. So idk. After reading Highroller's post, I can't see town in Rodemy anymore? Maybe an after effect? haha
@Fuwa so you’re assumption is TRSJT is throwing shade by claiming a serial killer? Multiple people have done that this game? Is that your only justification for voting him? Your catch up post didn’t include anything about him.
As far as your question, I’m leaning derpy town for Rodemy. Beside the win condition thing I don’t have any concerns with his play.
You, on the other hand, come in, quote 4 posts and vote someone with little to no justification.
vote:TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Terry's #137 smells awfully like a shade.
It is shade, but that's not what's suspicious about Terry.
Terry's suspicious because he's being lurky, quiet, and self-deprecating. Which is not Terry. Terry is loud, bombastic, braggadocious, and triple posts routinely. It's like Terry's doing everything he can to try to stay in the background and avoid everyone's attention, which is the exact opposite of his normal behavior.
Ummm....... I voted someone else and you quoted it too...
I'm hesitant about Terry because he's proven himself to be loud as scum (Unreliable Cops), so his lack of presence seems NAI to me.
@Fuwa
I found the way High went about his mass claim proposal not really well thought out. I could be wrong and maybe tomorrow there will be a good explanation for it, but it was disorganized and when asked to explain the benefits mechanically he failed to provide an adequate answer. I don't think he's mafia though.
Elijah's honesty and nonchalant attitude feel townie but I don't know where he's pulling most of his reads out of. If tone is the towniest thing about someone, I'd argue that's a bad sign. He seems comfortable with the game state for someone who admitted his scumread wasn't great.
Why those two? Did you miss the posts where I explain why?
What about Highroller doesn't seem earnest to you?[/quote]I think I had a block on him the first time because of the mass claim thing. Upon re-reading, his pushes on Rodemy feels townish. Like he believe he caught scum and so wouldn't let it go.
Ouch. but anyway that atog read was a mistake.
Vaimes for the effort of making sure he's not gonna mislynch and Grape for not being opportunistic.
tom maaybe town. but he's wrong.
How does this affect your read on Rod?
My gut says this is scum post.
Idk, it feels like you know what Rod will flip. If he flips scum, then you have established his bad play, but if he flips town, you would be in the I-got-it-right-so-listen-to-me kind of group. To me this sounds more like you just don't want to vote him.
Vote: Rodemy
There you go. Sheep.
I usually see a post between town-idk-scum.
So just because I don't read posts as town, doesn't mean I'm reading them as scum.
I feel a little detached from the thread. I read everything/caught up but it seems like I'm not getting it. I feel like the Highroller-Rodemy interactions made me like Highroller as town, but it doesn't really help me read Rodemy. And now I see he's a scumread to most. The lack of contesting wagon worries me. (Just realized you said the same thing)
I'm too used to being scumread, maybe.
I thought it made sense, given I think I'm being awkward as well (more like I laughed when I saw the word awkward instead of scum - haha)
Most of it comes from I don't think I can do anything about the read on me at this point. I don't think I have done anything good enough.
@EtR What's your current read on Elijah and Highroller? (and me, maybe.. if you want to do three)
Ouch T_T
No problem.
Your read on me was "awkward". I don't really know what to comment on that. I did fluff (which I enjoy terribly more than actually playing the game but try my best to not do it), and I might have missed Rodemy's response to my question. Or if he posted something that answers it before my post.
As for my thoughts on Rodemy~
Initially I had him in town lean for his early votes. I kinda had this thought that town likes wagon so that's that. His post in #22 feels townish too. Highroller's point on him makes me wonder though. So idk. After reading Highroller's post, I can't see town in Rodemy anymore? Maybe an after effect?
Why not autoscum me for that though? I mean, what's the reason that you're resisting it?
Ummm....... I voted someone else and you quoted it too...
I don't have his meta, but thanks.
Hmm fair, but I find it genuine.
Those two are my town leans so I was curious.
???
TOWN
Fuwa
Highroller
elijah
KamikazeArchon
Atogaholic
Vaimes
vezokpiraka
rezombied
Grapefruit21
RE1031
Rumanshi
Rodemy
tomsloger
Tubba Fett
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
EtR
SCUM
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vote:TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Terry's #137 smells awfully like a shade.
vote: Gozer the Traveler because it's in yellow. I'll watch the movie tomorrow maybe and see if I would change my vote. Or just sheep if I'm too lazy~
Do you read Rodemy as town? At the time of this post, I don't think Highroller were pushing so hard on Rod.What about Highroller doesn't seem earnest to you?[/quote]I think I had a block on him the first time because of the mass claim thing. Upon re-reading, his pushes on Rodemy feels townish. Like he believe he caught scum and so wouldn't let it go.
Why do you find elijah and Highroller awkward?
That was mostly fluff, I have a null read on him honestly.
What about Rumanshi pings you as scummy?
What about that post makes you feel Tom's townish?