Hmmm.. I'm guessing I have to put a vote in wagon since it's majority. I probably will have to vote Konan (don't ask why) but for now, my townleans are voting ZDS.
So.
Vote ZDS
This game makes me question my own role decision as a host (sigh)
The fact that someone (or two) had to point out to Konan about the tom-implication thing makes me think Konan is genuine in her defense. This could be over simplifying, but if Konan was scum, she'd know what they were talking about immediately, no? Instead of saying she doesn't get how they arrive to the conclusion that she reads tom as town TMI thing.
does it seem like shes trying to figure out what they mean?
Mmmm.. I don't know if I read it wrong, but I think she knows what they mean (if you're asking literally), she just doens't get how they reach to that conclusion.
I think I have only one question for you before the ZDS question..... I doubt that's indicative of me scumreading you?
By "already questioning me" I meant that you were making statements that showed that you were unsure on my alignment, not that you were literally asking me questions.
I...guess I can see how you got those confused.
Has your read on Last evolved since this post? In what way?
Nope. He's still null to me at this point. Though... that vote on tom made me think he could be town. The last time I see him being scum, he was a much more try-hard than that.
so you think wisp's tom vote was lazier than he'd be inclined to play as mafia?
Osie told me I should just imagine everyone as not knowing what they're doing so I don't feel like this site is trying to strangle me and tear me to pieces for not being an A poster (That's also hard to do because I saw some posts saying "I know exactly what I'm doing"). So...... I will try not be my miserable self that played a lurky game last time I played here. I probably still will not be able to beat you talkative top posters even with this new resolution. ^^"
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@Jackrito I remember you were saying that I did my catch up post better than how you did? But what exactly was better/ or any good in that posts?
He bounces off his thoughts so readily and the fact that he supplied the terry vote with post links means he's not worried if people scrutinize the post (though I haven't actually went and check what was it that made terry's scum). Also, the tone was pretty carefree.
That's pretty much it. It's not a hard read, but I thought to post it because sloth was interested in my Lastwhisper read.
Something to note for clarity
my alignment doesn't reveal on death
I am town
any questions?
going to take Fonti's advice, and try to take this game slow
o/
My reaction to this is nod nod, sounds like osie.
Probably believe you.
is this the only thought you had on wisp's claim at the time? did you decide to believe him solely off hostgaming, or was something about the claim itself enough to sway you
Right now my vote on Sloth is pretty much because he's my focus.
Among others that I talked about, these names doesn't have town vibes with them:
Lastwhisper
TerRaine
Tubba Fett - tbf, him answering me did make me feel good about his slot.
Zionite
and these are the ones that I forgot about:
Killjoy
tomsloger
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Poison Chan
shadowlancerx
I'm ok with eliminating them.
why was tubba's response to you villagery enough that you elected to mention it as a point against wolfreading him when you didn't extend the same courtesy to the others in the "not villagers" pile, but not enough for you to move him out of the pile altogether?
@All
I know it’s cute, hell, I like it more than anyone, but what if Tom is scum using the gifs to avoid putting anything concrete in the thread? It’s a pretty easy copout to just say he was misinterpreted? Especially since it looks like it’s definitely not a posting restriction?
It's probably right that he's doing it to avoid putting anything concrete~ but I think talking about it doesn't help either. I mean, if you have questions towards him, you should just ask instead of asking people to talk about him who did not contribute yet. To kpaca as well.
Or tom can forever remain in poe, except I don't get people who sid they could rad his gifs.
Let’s not argue about it anymore, it’s wine on the table. I agree with alpaca that pressure on Tom is relevant. He’s not helping town by being obtuse, and while I can understand the thoughts behind letting him do his thing for another day, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s not pro-town play. People were ready to lynch axle for not being pro-town, it’s somehow hat puzzling that those same people don’t have a similar take on Tom. Apples aren’t oranges but fruit is fruit. NegTown is NegTown. Axle resolved via pressure, I’m not against making Tom do the same.
Vote Tom
Is there a reason you think Tom is NegTown and not NegScum?
I like this question.
just to clarify, Neg = negative, right?
so to clarify the first part of this post: you suspect that tom's gifposting is motivated by a desire to make reads without accountability... yet you think people can ask him to clarify and he'll answer? it seems like you're simulataneously thinking of him as town and scum. the uncharitable interpretation here is that, like people are accusing konan of doing, you're tmi slipping that tom is a villager despite trying to represent a null-wolfread on him, but i'd love if you could further expand on where you stand on tom's slot
I think I only wanted to type out the "nod nod" part, and then figured it's too short of a post, so I added something. And I believe him because I believe anti-town roles exist in this game. Umm, something of a mix of both. Probably more the latter.
I generally have a feel good feeling on those who interacts with me (because me being in the null is actually pretty common so anyone who interacts with me get brownie points because I believe that they try to get out of the null pile - not saying that's what Tubba's doing but it's enough to make me feel good about his slot). Still, his posts alone doesn't give out town vibes, so there's no real reason to get him out of that list.
I think it's fine to expect that he answers them. And if doesn't, just bombard him with more question, if people are actually interested in sorting him out. I don't have a read on him yet. Although I noticed that he voted for Konan and while I think fulcrum makes sense, Konan defense made sense to me as well, and while I was thinking that, I thought "those who jumped in could very well be opportunistic". I have not recheck what tom reason's was Nvm, I revisited. I think his vote is fine, still doesn't sway the needle for me.
The fact that someone (or two) had to point out to Konan about the tom-implication thing makes me think Konan is genuine in her defense. This could be over simplifying, but if Konan was scum, she'd know what they were talking about immediately, no? Instead of saying she doesn't get how they arrive to the conclusion that she reads tom as town TMI thing.
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Unrelated, Lagoon, your new picture is really nice.
I think I have only one question for you before the ZDS question..... I doubt that's indicative of me scumreading you?
By "already questioning me" I meant that you were making statements that showed that you were unsure on my alignment, not that you were literally asking me questions.
I...guess I can see how you got those confused.
Has your read on Last evolved since this post? In what way?
Nope. He's still null to me at this point. Though... that vote on tom made me think he could be town. The last time I see him being scum, he was a much more try-hard than that.
@All
I know it’s cute, hell, I like it more than anyone, but what if Tom is scum using the gifs to avoid putting anything concrete in the thread? It’s a pretty easy copout to just say he was misinterpreted? Especially since it looks like it’s definitely not a posting restriction?
It's probably right that he's doing it to avoid putting anything concrete~ but I think talking about it doesn't help either. I mean, if you have questions towards him, you should just ask instead of asking people to talk about him who did not contribute yet. To kpaca as well.
Or tom can forever remain in poe, except I don't get people who sid they could rad his gifs.
Let’s not argue about it anymore, it’s wine on the table. I agree with alpaca that pressure on Tom is relevant. He’s not helping town by being obtuse, and while I can understand the thoughts behind letting him do his thing for another day, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s not pro-town play. People were ready to lynch axle for not being pro-town, it’s somehow hat puzzling that those same people don’t have a similar take on Tom. Apples aren’t oranges but fruit is fruit. NegTown is NegTown. Axle resolved via pressure, I’m not against making Tom do the same.
Vote Tom
Is there a reason you think Tom is NegTown and not NegScum?
You're really going out of your way to make it clear that your read is being pulled, almost against your wishes. Odd.
Your vote's on me already - it was RVS but since you never changed it despite your comments on other players, no one was asking for justification.
This feels self-conscious.
Neat.
Yeah, because without those other posts, I think I wouldn't be swayed from town!sloth.
[SNIP]
What do you think of the FOS/reads on ZDS?
In reverse order:
I'm curious about Dork. He's not quite how I remember his town or his scum game. Plan to in-depth him later.
Wouldn't be swayed? Weren't you already questioning me on the sections you wrote on me prior to those posts? The answer's yes, so...?
Right now my vote on Sloth is pretty much because he's my focus.
At the risk of being egotistical, why am I your focus over people that "dont have town vibes"/"you forgot about"/"are ok eliminating"?
I'm not really asking what you think of him. More like, what do you think of the reads already presented about him.
Though I might have misremembered now, since I thought you already have thoughts on him before. Probably someone else.
I think I have only one question for you before the ZDS question..... I doubt that's indicative of me scumreading you?
Well, reason number 1. I like you
2. I don't, at least not by a lot felt intimidated to talk to you ahahah
3. I have nothing to ask the others. I mean I do kinda wanna vote for Lastwhisper because he posted a lot with no obvious town vibe that I recall he usually have, or that irritating confidence in his reads out of nowhere, but otherwise I have nothing I want to ask him.
Hmmm.. I'm guessing I have to put a vote in wagon since it's majority. I probably will have to vote Konan (don't ask why) but for now, my townleans are voting ZDS.
So.
Vote ZDS
This game makes me question my own role decision as a host (sigh)
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@Jackrito I remember you were saying that I did my catch up post better than how you did? But what exactly was better/ or any good in that posts?
That's pretty much it. It's not a hard read, but I thought to post it because sloth was interested in my Lastwhisper read.
I generally have a feel good feeling on those who interacts with me (because me being in the null is actually pretty common so anyone who interacts with me get brownie points because I believe that they try to get out of the null pile - not saying that's what Tubba's doing but it's enough to make me feel good about his slot). Still, his posts alone doesn't give out town vibes, so there's no real reason to get him out of that list.
I think it's fine to expect that he answers them. And if doesn't, just bombard him with more question, if people are actually interested in sorting him out. I don't have a read on him yet. Although I noticed that he voted for Konan and while I think fulcrum makes sense, Konan defense made sense to me as well, and while I was thinking that, I thought "those who jumped in could very well be opportunistic".
I have not recheck what tom reason's wasNvm, I revisited. I think his vote is fine, still doesn't sway the needle for me.---
Unrelated, Lagoon, your new picture is really nice.
As of page 25, Lastwhisper can be town.
Or tom can forever remain in poe, except I don't get people who sid they could rad his gifs.
I like this question.
just to clarify, Neg = negative, right?
Though I might have misremembered now, since I thought you already have thoughts on him before. Probably someone else.
I think I have only one question for you before the ZDS question..... I doubt that's indicative of me scumreading you?
Well, reason number 1. I like you
2. I don't, at least not by a lot felt intimidated to talk to you ahahah
3. I have nothing to ask the others. I mean I do kinda wanna vote for Lastwhisper because he posted a lot with no obvious town vibe that I recall he usually have, or that irritating confidence in his reads out of nowhere, but otherwise I have nothing I want to ask him.
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