Gerry Thompson highlighted this in an article of SCG recently. This is what he said about it:
“I'm a big fan of decks like these, and it wouldn't shock me if they become the future to some degree. Burn is easily defeated by hate cards, and Death's Shadow suffers to some degree by not being as proactive as it should be. A mashup featuring Abbot of Keral Keep could be exactly what the doctor ordered.
Dark Confidant in a Burn shell is excellent because you're already drawing fire with your Goblin Guides, so it's more likely to stick around. The Death's Shadows aren't quite as explosive in this deck, especially considering the Blackcleave Cliffs, but as a Turn 3 play, it seems just fine. Having some additional heavy hitters for Claim is necessary anyway. I've been waiting for Claim to break out, and it's a perfect fit here. Previous versions have rocked Vexing Devils alongside it, which is a fine route to take, but maybe not a perfect one.
As lifegain and cheap removal hold Burn down, a different approach is necessary, and so far, I really like this one. Given the overall strategy has deviated somewhat, playing Lava Spike doesn't excite me, and I'd also like to try Bomat Couriers, but this deck has promise.”
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Apr 16, 2018This is what I mean:Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Bogles is the only real threatening deck in the meta with enchantments. UW Control and Merfolk are really the only other ones that have any other enchantments of note and neither are very popular in the meta. Blood Moon is ignorable in my opinion, especially since the window to respond to it is so narrow that DRev is basically just a dead card if you don’t have it in hand and the Stomping Ground already in play/fetchable.
So, I feel like we need to decide if we care about trying to improve the Bogles matchup, which means running Ensnaring Bridge, Deflecting Palm and the full playset of Destructive Revelry in the sideboard. It also arguably means that we should probably just go ahead and also play another Stomping Ground and Atarka’s Command over Skullcrack for another spell that can punch through Leyline of Sanctity and increase our creature damage to try to race them faster.
On the other hand, if we just concede Bogles as an unwinnable matchup, we should just run Boros for Smash to Smithereens for the extra damage against artifacts in matchups that are more winnable.
Going half in with only DRev in the sideboard just to still have a nigh unwinnable matchup even if we draw it against Bogles while giving up free points of damage in other matchups that could use it seems silly.
Basically it boils down to whether trying to improve a 20-30% matchup to 30-40% is better than trying to swing 50% matchups to 55%. That may very well be the case with Bogles being overrepresented right now. The argument against AComm would be that adding it also demonstrably lowers our win rate in other matchups where it matters, which then could make the middle ground option of just running green for only DRev the best because it improves the Bogles matchup enough without hurting the rest. Maybe that’s actually where we’re at. I’m just raising the question.
Apr 16, 2018Posted in: Aggro & TempoQuote from elconquistador1985 »Some matchups are bad and it's not worth making an 80:20 unfavorable matchup into 75:25.
Yeah, that’s probably a good point. I guess my frustration stems from running across a much higher percentage of these unfavorable to terrible matchups now. Pre-unbanning, it felt like 90-95% of the games were against favoured or at least even matchups, with really only the rare Ad Nauseum appearance showing up to ruin a run. Hollow One and Bogles feel way more overrepresented online now and it feels like you end up playing at least one bad matchup every league now no matter what (and even then Jund and Humans are about 50/50 so losing runs just happen more often). This really feels like a strictly worse meta for Burn and I’m not sure how that changes without any major shakeups. Damping Sphere just seems like it will make things worse by further pushing out more favorable matchups in Tron and Storm (as well as also being annoying against us).
I think I might experiment with both Ensnaring Bridge and Deflecting Palm in the side. Ensnaring Bridge especially seems solid since it can come in for Humans too. I dislike Deflecting Palm a lot, so I’m usually pretty hesitant to run it, but it does feel like it at least gives us a couple different outs to Bogles and can maybe slow down Hollow One a bit as a souped up Lightning Helix.
It is definitely starting to feel like RWg with only Destructive Revelry using green in the side is just flat out wrong though. Bogles is really the only enchantment deck in the meta, and in that case running Atarka’s Command over Skullcrack would be better. The question is how much would going full RWG drop your win percentage against the rest of the field versus just giving up entirely on Bogles to go straight Boros.
Apr 15, 2018There really isn’t much we can do to make the Bogles and Hollow One matchups better other than maybe adding both Ensnaring Bridge and Deflecting Palm to the sideboard, right? It looks like the Burn deck that top-8ed at GP Hartford did exactly that.Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
The MTGO meta has been a lot less fun to play in than it was a couple months ago just due to the higher frequency of those two decks (and Humans and Affinity, although those matchups at least feel reasonably even and fun to play against), so I’m just sort of trying to figure out what configuration would make coming across them feel less overwhelmingly futile. Is leaning heavier into green for Atarka’s Command (better potential trades and dodges Leyline) another option?
Apr 12, 2018This new sideboard guide is amazing! Thanks eldonquistador85!Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
It does seem like Searing Blood is a notable exclusion from the potential sideboard options for decks like Affinty and Elves though if I had to make any recommendation.
Apr 1, 2018I’m pretty sure I’m approaching the humans matchup in the wrong manner. With most creature aggro decks, you can sort of save your removal for high priority targets like lords or combo pieces, but I feel like humans is a bit deceiving that way in that almost all of their creatures have a reasonable impact on the board while they’re in play, so they all feel threatening when they maybe aren’t in actuality. I’ve been losing games recently with the humans player around 2-6 life which almost definitely means I’m sending too much Burn at their board rather than face. Which creatures specifically are the high priority kill targets in that matchup?Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Mar 30, 2018The MTGO meta has gotten super fast recently. I’ve started to lose a bunch of games with the opponent under 3 health.Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Starting to test switching to 19 lands and adding a couple Shard Volleys now to see how it helps in that regard. Feels really weird that we may be in a meta where Burn isn’t faster than the average deck anymore though.
Mar 25, 2018That’s pretty rough luck. I have found that I started to have better results against black midrange decks running discard when I started prioritizing keeping seven less ideal cards rather than fishing for a “perfect” six, but four lands does make that a tough call since then that puts you at only two live cards potentially. Fetches make it sort of better since you can at least thin the deck a little bit (almost negligible though), but on the play, I think that has to be a mulligan.Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
A no land six is just the worst possible outcome there I think and is just plain bad luck, since anything else is probably keepable at that point. Going to five or less just always feels like it ends up being a mistake against discard in my experience. I may have considered keeping the six card hand and prayed for topdecks, but I almost definitely would have kept the five card hand even as a no lander in that case. It’s unlikely to win still, but there’s almost no possible four card hand that’d be better at that point.
Mar 12, 2018Posted in: Aggro & TempoQuote from diateone »I mean, it was the first time I took my burn deck to this FNM, but I have been playing it forever, so I was really shocked and depressed after I lost all the rounds... Anyway, I dont think my meta is the best for a deck like burn. There is also a ton of Abzan/Jund decks that can really win life very easily.
Given how bad your meta is for Burn, you’re dedicating way too much of your sideboard to the mirror. I’d replace the 3 Kor Firewalkers with either 3 Searing Bloods or 2 Searing Bloods and a second Lavamancer.
I think you should consider dropping one or both Palms to fit in the 4th Skullcrack somewhere too.
Mar 8, 2018Doesn’t seem to be anything really worthwhile for Burn in Dominaria, but we do have a new anti-Burn card to be on the lookout for:Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Prevent the next 3 damage that would be dealt to any target this turn by a source of your choice. You gain 3 life
Mar 8, 20183 Relics feels like overkill. I think you could safely drop the Kor Firewalker as well for room.Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Something like this seems like it could possibly work:
-1 Kor Firewalker
+1 Searing Blood
My main concerns are that Bogles are starting to become more of a thing in the overall meta (especially online) and this really doesn't have much play against them at all. But in a slower control meta, adding in the Revelers in the side for grindy games could be interesting.
Mar 7, 2018So, no thoughts on Searing effects against Jund I take it?Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Since there’s been a lot of discussion regarding various mixes of green and black in Burn (a lot of it local meta driven it seems as well), I’m curious if it may make sense for us to determine some general high level heuristics for the types of metas that each archetype of burn is strongest. If we can come to a general consensus on that, it could be really useful for the top post to help give players a sense of what type of build to run in their own local meta.
Mar 5, 2018Now that Jund is running Bloodbraid Elf do you think it’s worthwhile for us to re-consider our sideboarding options?Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Specifically, I’m starting to wonder if Searing effects have a lot more use now that they’re running 4 more solid targets for them. I’m not sure it’s worthwhile to go all the way towards running more than 4 but bringing in Searing Blood to replace the Searing Blaze (running a 2:2 or 1:3 split of Blazes to Bloods) might be more useful than dropping down to 0 or 1 Blaze. Their main targets are all 2 health so having an easier to cast spell seems better, although I guess there are some occasions you could catch a 3 health Goyf with a Blaze as well.
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