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    posted a message on Narset, Parter of Veils Combo Control, (AKA Pitch Blue ) Primer
    Quote from Lord Nahkiin »
    Hello!

    I’ve watched the deck being played and I absolutely love it. For people who appear to be making suggestions and critiquing cards without seeing how they perform, I’d suggest you watch some gameplay; you’re not really helping much if you’re trying to make suggestions to something that you don’t properly understand. Seeing a decklist and seeing it played are two completely different things.

    That being said, I am possibly worried about one aspect of the deck: it’s ability to kill with the lock out. Just so I understand properly, is the lock of Lore Broker + Narset, Parter of Veils while Hellbent an absolute lock, or are the opponents still able to cast instant-speed effects? If they can’t, then this is one of the most beautiful decks I have ever seen lol. If they can interact however, then I’m a bit afraid that we kill too slowly before they’re able to potentially break out of the lock. I could be wrong of course, I’m only human.

    Thanks for the sick primer as well : )


    A few key differences between the two passive effects on Narset, Parter of Veils/Notion Thief, however:
    1) Notion Thief's ability stops every draw other than the opponent's normal draw during their draw step, this means that if you make the opponent loot on your turn, or draw on your turn, they don't draw any cards, whereas Narset, Parter of Veils sets a cap for 1 card each turn, so if you loot on your turn the opponent draws a card as normal.
    2) In order to lock the opponent out of drawing cards with lore broker and Notion Thief's ability, you must activate the looting effect in response to them drawing a card on their draw step, so they immediately loot, not drawing the card for the loot, and discarding the card they just drew, with you also drawing an extra card due to Notion Thief's ability. This has the drawback of the opponent being able to cast instants in response to the loot trigger, unlike Narset, Parter of Veils where you can make them loot during their upkeep, so they draw 1 and discard 1, and then they don't get the draw for the draw step, meaning if they had 0 cards in hand when you activated the looting ability there's no time for them to cast the card that they draw before they have to discard it, (obviously madness cards get around this).




    Good to know the ways to get play this lock optimally, thank you!

    Just making sure (think I saw this on the stream, but double checking) if I were to have both Narset, Parter of Veils and Notion Thief on the battlefield, then the Narset just overrides the Thief’s ability? It’s not a “what entered the battlefield last” incident, right?
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
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    posted a message on Narset, Parter of Veils Combo Control, (AKA Pitch Blue ) Primer
    Hello!

    I’ve watched the deck being played and I absolutely love it. For people who appear to be making suggestions and critiquing cards without seeing how they perform, I’d suggest you watch some gameplay; you’re not really helping much if you’re trying to make suggestions to something that you don’t properly understand. Seeing a decklist and seeing it played are two completely different things.

    That being said, I am possibly worried about one aspect of the deck: it’s ability to kill with the lock out. Just so I understand properly, is the lock of Lore Broker + Narset, Parter of Veils while Hellbent an absolute lock, or are the opponents still able to cast instant-speed effects? If they can’t, then this is one of the most beautiful decks I have ever seen lol. If they can interact however, then I’m a bit afraid that we kill too slowly before they’re able to potentially break out of the lock. I could be wrong of course, I’m only human.

    Thanks for the sick primer as well : )
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
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