MTG Salvation

Now that I started building this UW Temmet token unblockable, having Roon as commander might be too strong in my playgroup.
I think that I'll stick to Temmet...already gathering cards and I like where this deck is going.

@Outcryqq I have all decks from commander 2013, 2015-17.

Ojutai doesnt look interesting. If I want to look at the top X cards and draw one of them - I know other cards. Playing Ojutai just for the sake of his specific ability is ehhh...

I already checked this multiplayer edh decklist but didnt find what I wanted.

Maybe using Derevi as commander?

I have limited cards and no budget.

My sets are:
XLN
HOU
AKH
AER
KLD
Archenemy Nicol Bolas
Commander 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017

I admit that my deck building is not good enough (new player).
I'm looking for fun and casual WU deck using cards from the listed above set.

Of course I'm not expecting you to give me full deck list but any direction would be nice.

I thought maybe generate white tokens for defense and use blue unblockable and/or flying to attack.

I tried to look online but found no answer.

Question: Does attacking creatures MUST attack if you declared them as attackers? (or because of Illusionist's Gambit)

Can a player declare attackers just for the sake of lets say triggered abilities but in fact attack no one and just skip to end of combat?

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Quote from Wefal »

My group want to play casual commander and we want to buy the following precon decks but worried maybe some are too weak/strong compare to the rest:

1) Wade Into Battle (Kalemne)
2) Plunder the Graves (Meren)
3) Feline Ferocity (Arahbo)
4) Evasive Maneuvers (Derevi)
5) Vampiric Bloodlust (Edgar)

Are you looking at power levels out of the box or after upgraded? For example, Derevi is not that strong out of the box but can easy become on of the most oppressive commanders. Also, if they are upgraded, will they be tuned to play each other. Would the other eligible commanders be able to be used?

Much has been changed since a month ago.
1) I moved from beefy giants to control-burn-group hug-ish.
I have problem with my deck though...im using Arcane Wizardry and Seize Control as base, mixed them together and upgraded the deck (Kess as cmd). But im having trouble without white for more control/group hug and w/o green for ramp.

2) My friend switched from vamps to dragons (Draconic Domination) with slight upgrade.

3) Derevi OOtB is almost as bad as Arcane Wizardry OOtB. I want to upgrade him to combo WU with fewer G cards but in the same time I dont want him to become too oppressive.

Quote from toctheyounger77 »

The only one that sticks out to me as significantly weaker than the rest is Kalemne. You could probably play Swell the Host (Ezuri) instead and all would be reasonably well balanced.

If you're looking at upgrading straight away, some of these do stand out as having a much higher potential than others. Derevi and Meren are probably the most competitive, with Derevi able to be seriously oppressive. It's probably too early to tell with Arahbo or Edgar but I doubt either of them will ever be as competitive.

What about Inalla? I want to try her deck but I read that the wizards deck out of the box is terrible...

Quote from Gutterstorm »

Not a dig at OP or anything but it seems these threads keep popping up. Maybe we need to run a poll to decide the generally accepted power rankings amongst all the decks and then sticky that bastard.

Sorry if I post something that has been posted many times, I'm new here.
And I absolutely agree with you. I will go further and even say why not a whole sticky thread just for precon commanders?

Quote from Narvuntien »

Well you can upgrade Arahbo with Ahmonket cards and Edgar with Ixlan cards fairly easily and cheaply.

The problem is it doesn't take very much upgrading at all before Meren gets completely out of hand.. Sakura-tribe elder OP.

I thought to upgrade edgar and arahbo with AHK/XLN sets but I was too afraid I will make them out of balance.
Are there any cards I should take out (op/up) ?

Quote from DirkGently »

In my somewhat limited experience, I'd say kalemne is pretty weak and meren is probably above the curve. The other three fall somewhere in the middle.

With multiplayer as long as the decks are reasonably close, it tends to balance itself out though (as long as people are decent at threat assessment).

I have cards to upgrade Kalemne.
I wonder if we need to upgrade the rest as well.

My group want to play casual commander and we want to buy the following precon decks but worried maybe some are too weak/strong compare to the rest:

1) Wade Into Battle (Kalemne)
2) Plunder the Graves (Meren)
3) Feline Ferocity (Arahbo)
4) Evasive Maneuvers (Derevi)
5) Vampiric Bloodlust (Edgar)

Quote from TBuzzsaw »

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Advanced.aspx

Wizard's main page literally lets you search all the cards. It should have been the first place to look.

thanks :0

I was wondering if there's a website that I can enter a card name and it will show me all the sets/blocks/precon decks it was released in.

I want to upgrade a deck and I'm sure that I have some of the cards but searching my whole cards is too time consuming.

The decks you mentioned in the end of your post ar the decks that roughly at the same lvl of power?

I watched alot of youtube and read online about the C17 wizards, they are the worst according to my research.

Also, you mentioned Derevi being tier 2. Meaning?

My friends and I (5 players) want to try commander but we are new to magic (around HOU set).

We dont have the experience to build deck so my question is: which one of the precon commanders do you think is best out of the box?
(2013/15/16/17 didnt like the PW decks)