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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    first half of my performance was my usual play, I guess. later on I was dragged down by...things, and couldn't really put in any effort. didn't open this site, and whenever I did it was always night. wanted to replace out by D3, but thought I could handle it, and I repped out from another game so I didn't want to overstay any generosity. meh. from feedback I guess my play was going good so, sorry that I couldn't live up to expectations (of a scum allkill). then again, scumteam technically won by D4 considering majority and lylo.

    won't be playing for a while if that makes anyone feel better Smile
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Whelp. Dbs, you got anything to say before you die?
    sorry for making this too easy for you Smile
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  • posted a message on Arkham Horror Mafia - A peaceful town - Town Win
    @Grape
    I didn't take advantage of my differences, and I did describe the way I saw things in detail (especially since my views are more backwards from ordinary). for everyone to ignore my cases simply because I think different, is biased and lazy. of course I won't take kindly to it. but thanks, I've had it good since my first ever game.
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  • posted a message on Arkham Horror Mafia - A peaceful town - Town Win
    I'm always right. just saying.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    *and, I was talking about the mason cover in terms of how good/bad/whatever it could be, not whether it is bad or good (since idk which). such a strategy wouldn't continue uninterrupted if all were town, if scum knows how to think. lack of interference, and the /encouragement/ of a seemingly /good/ plan, means scum must be onboard.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    As for the game the Tubba/Rod thing isn't a dichotomy. It's more that the PoE doesn't allow for both of them to be town. Dota and Vezo are town. You're town.

    That only leaves Mikey, Vaimes, Iso, Dota, and Tubba. And Mikey, Vaimes, Iso is definitely not the team.
    1. I see. so you mean there's 1-2 scum in there? thought you mean the flip would clear the other.
    2. I'm still curious about you and Emcee about the mason cover talk. Vaimes also pushed that idea as a 'correct way to play', so that's another thing.. there should be scum in Grape/Emcee/Vaimes. don't think all 3 are town.

    Correct there is always at least 1 scum in those 2 and possibly 2.
    What about the mason cover talk is interesting to you still? I agree it's the correct way to play. It's why I did it from D1. What about that group of 3 makes you think we can't all be town? Other than it being almost impossible for a group of 3 not containing yourself to not have scum.
    1. ok.
    2. the way it continued on for so long without much objection means scum are probably in the mix. even if it's a good plan as you say, scum would still join in. and I don't see how it's impossible too, Grape/Iso could still be scum.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    As for the game the Tubba/Rod thing isn't a dichotomy. It's more that the PoE doesn't allow for both of them to be town. Dota and Vezo are town. You're town.

    That only leaves Mikey, Vaimes, Iso, Dota, and Tubba. And Mikey, Vaimes, Iso is definitely not the team.
    1. I see. so you mean there's 1-2 scum in there? thought you mean the flip would clear the other.
    2. I'm still curious about you and Emcee about the mason cover talk. Vaimes also pushed that idea as a 'correct way to play', so that's another thing.. there should be scum in Grape/Emcee/Vaimes. don't think all 3 are town.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »

    my claim is Eclaire Benes a friend.
    (on the side: I really dig those Vaimes posts lol)

    I'm guessing that's Elaine and an autocorrect? If so continuing to dig the flavor.
    yeah. autocorrect in my head lol

    also I think this needs clarifying... while I don't see myself puking derpclears in a game, I can see myself being forgetful or just plain assuming something without asking the scumteam .-. (if I had such a skill, I actually would utilize it as town more often to get them off my scummy ass)



    Vote: Tubba_Fett
    for that weird theory
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Anyway point is even if Iso is scum, which given Vaimes almost certainly being town now is very likely the case, he's still not as good of a lynch because there is 100% to be at least one scum between Rod and Tubba and solving that before lylo is incredibly important.
    really? I'd lynch Tubba first if that's the case. what makes you so sure Rod/Tubba are a dichotomy though?


    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    @Iso, @dawn, @dota : Please reread Vaimes and tell me what you see town about him?

    This isn't town paranoia. It's scum trying to push on a lynch outside the poe because they are losing any other way.

    There is just no chance that Iso is scum here. If betting wasn't illegal, I'd bet something on it.

    I have a townlean on Vaimes for how he went along with the townblocking. scum wouldn't want to townclear so easily. another thing is that he was pushing Rumanshi (scum would've stayed away since he practically drove his own lynch). hmmm that means Iso is possibly town too.


    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    Surely you can figure out why it benefits him to shoot an unknown. He can't very well announce that he knows Vezok is a mason and have Vezok shot in the night. Instead pocket Vezok, pick up pails full of towniness, and fire into the crowd and see what happens. How would you have proceeded as scum!Iso at that point, with one confirmed mason? Why would you kill them when you can track their interactions and try and unearth the other masons? (Which is exactly what happened btw)
    how does that benefit scum? makes more sense to shoot masons whenever you find them, especially in this kind of setup.


    anddd I think the scumteam is just in Tubba/Rod and one of someone else. Grape/Vaimes?
    my claim is Eclaire Benes a friend.
    (on the side: I really dig those Vaimes posts lol)
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    hmmm

    I will be back

    gonna sleep~
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Like.

    Iso is scum.

    vezok is pocketed by Iso.

    Grape is super reasonable and chill, but I feel like he makes perfect sense as Iso's scumbuddy.

    Mikey basically puts no critical thought into anything and is going with gut.

    Tubba thinks I'm scummy for whatever reason.

    dawn is MIA.

    Rod is occupied with other stuff, and probably not someone I can bounce reads off of.

    DoTA is kinda here but probably has a ton of reading to do.

    So I'm basically not able to solve the game with any of my townreads.
    ehh I just posted...

    and it would be cool if you don't go crazy in ending the day again x.x
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    pardon my slacking in the thread.
    .... can we not speedlynch anymore?


    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Caught up on reading, I'm back but for the next few hours only kinda (day with family)

    I see we're outed which is a relief of sorts, I kept thinking I was going to give it away (which I guess I did).

    There's been far too many town late in this game, every remaining player outside of the mason team has had someone say they are undeniably town by someone else. When I have some time later today/tomorrow I want to try and pull together a list of who has towncleared a player and why. There has to be an illogical clear floating around.
    long time no see. hope you've been contributing to the mason chat. might be best to work without the townclears, just the masons.


    Quote from Vaimes »
    One more post and then I'll cool it for a minute.
    Quote from Sentenza »
    half-expected everyone to jump on me for my one and only post.
    Why did you expect that?
    dbs never answered this question, and I'd like her to.
    left a post to get reactions for when I returned (lazy mode).
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Iso has certainly won games single-handedly, so it’s certainly not impossible.
    I guess you're familiar with Iso's scumgame? does he tend to drill players to a lynch like he did? seen that only from his town meta so far.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Killjoy »
    So. I'm still in the camp that there were two scum on the wagon and one off, unless the scum are exactly in tubba/dawn/mikey. I doubt it's exactly those three because because I doubt Mikey is scum.
    we can also say there were 2 masons on the wagon. vc analysis works more with teams afaik - not specific alignments.

    as for your reads.. the most I can agree on is the read on me. I haven't done much, and the only significant thing is my derping - due to me being new to this kind of setup....or the mason shenanigans. but, it also feels like an obvious read.
    what is the Tubba/Iso/Grape scumteam based on? from your post, it looks like they're all just hard to read, without actual connections.
    why didn't you mention it when Grape kept up the mason cover longer than you expected?


    Quote from Vaimes »
    No one seems to have an idea of why dan died, and my “Sentenza is scum” theory is wrong.

    The only options I see are Masonhunting, deliberate wine, or a newbie scumteam.

    I don’t think anyone seriously thought dan was a Mason, unless they read his “I’m totally VT leave me alive scumteam!” post and got overly paranoid.
    if it was a newbie scumteam, I doubt they would NK a lurker first.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    @Grape
    I don't understand what you mean by connected, but I'm starting to see it in a new light.

    @Sentenza
    idk Rodemy well, but Rumanshi is an example for how town might post.

    looking back at my previous reads, I'm probably down to Tubba/Killjoy/Grape with a chance of Rodemy. Iso stays in nulls since I'm positive/negative about him.

    Vote: Killjoy
    for counterwagons
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