kj comes off as super oblivious to the larger gamestate
like he goes "we have to be doing x" as if that hasn't already been set in stone ever since the day began
he says like "eco almost has to be?" scum when eco should be nearly lock scum from his perspective
he does this iso on me which goes up to like day 1 and doesnt cover day 2/3 and if you think I'm scum at this point omegalul
it scares me
these are the things I would use to call Killjoy town, these are the things I used to call him town here
but it feels kinda of nutty to be this oblivious to the game state, like even for Killjoy standards
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@Cantrip I don't get your town read on crossbell at all. You only added two details beyond engaged and solvey=town. The first was the Proph roleplay was a factor in other people (DV and myself notably) scum reading the wall post and you having a guess to the identity and projecting that to the town meta. I have a hard time seeing how that equals a top town read.
He calls out Cantrip here, but I don't think I can say anything in regards to them not being aligned here
(KJ, Dota, and Cantrip are murky soup
calls this group all null, which is correct for the time it was made
Someone else mentioned but the wording on Axel is weird when paired with the Wisp and Proph reads. If he didn't have town reads then whatever but that read feels wrong coming after two town reads.
in reference to GJ's thoughts on Cantrips DV read
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]The meta read is actually playing a lot stronger here than I think I realized. Each subsequent post makes me feel like it's more likely who I think it is, and I'm freaking loving it. (Spoiler: I'm probably completely wrong, because I'm almost always wrong on these things, but something something blind squirrel...) I'm also happy with the volume of output. Again, not necessarily town on its own, but in combination with everything, feels indicative to me. The Axel read still doesn't meld with me (nor the DoTa one, tbf), but the meta dive at least lets me see where Cross is coming from.
we get a hrmmm in reference to this, whatever that means
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Proph: wolf
DoTA: wolf
Cantrip: wolf
Wisp: Town
Axelrod: town
KJ: Wolf
Have everyone but Wisp and Axel at slightly above random to be a wolf.
in reference to my game
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As for Eco his heavy interactions with Proph don't strike me as W/W stuff. Feels like Eco is genuinely trying to figure Proph out despite having him as a town read. Time to actually read the walls and reply to stuff.
more team references to Proph lol
meh iso diving like this is hard for my brain
Grape has been asking really good questions to both Killjoy and Eco
Ya, I dont really think he is aligned with either of them?
I don't really believe scum!Grape crafts posts this well, nor is he able to constantly poke at you if you are town and he is a wolf. Its hard to read the tunneling, maybe if this wasn't Grape it might bother me, but like I know he does it, and now he is re-evaluating you, which doesn't really make sense if he is a wolf? I mean he already has the misyeet he needs here between Killjoy or Eco
Wisp: Obviously, but if I get lynched we lose. So I would like to convince people not to do that.
you had 3 day phases to do that, but its ok, cause in town you worlds, you cross voting with Eco, is one of the best positions for town right now, I think
@Proph
Honestly Im in currently in the mindset of, "This game is over is killjoy is town", anyways
call that lazy, but that's how I view the game right now, which is probably why I'm not overly freaking out right now
ill reread Grape now
if there are any specific posts, you want me to look into, plz let me know, since I don't really iso dive like you do
2 of Proph/Eco/Grape/Wisp are working together. I need to figure out who those two are. I'm almost done with the Proph post so after that I'll, idk. I'll figure it out.
No ***** sherlock. You said this five days ago and you have gone absolutely nowhere with it.
WORKING ON IT
i mean there isn't much to work on, proph isn't going to die today
in less than 24 hours, you are voting Eco, and Eco is voting you
if you deviate you die, it's quite simple
the best part is from your POV, this is literally the rest of the game, and you have done nothing to figure this out
and we have a little over 24 hours left
This was honestly the same reason I called out Cuth in the MU game? He gave so much leeway to all the flipped wolves, and I pointed it out, but kept getting lost in real time, what's new lol. Obviously the circumstances aren't the same since we have no flipped wolves, but when you highlight all the times he has actually done it here, coupled with Cantrip, it just feels to much
Wisp, can you read through Grape one more time just to make sure I'm correct here? I know you're unsure of my alignment but the way Grape just kind of stopped tunneling me after I wrote the big wall has me a tinge paranoid.
Also should be getting the wall out at around midnight my time, evening was busier than usual.
Eco's walls on Proph and me are fine. I just don't have the time to dig into them right now but like I can't point to any massive red flags at a glance. And his little back and forth with Wisp about my EoD1 feels natural-ish, but like he kind of has to be scum here I think. I'll try to get back into this a bit more in depth but today is a bit busy and with Proph now looking like he might actually be town the game kind of feels easy. Wisp is never scum so if Proph is legit then it's solved.
I mean I know Proph knows how to write good town posts as a wolf, and from what Proph is saying, Eco knows how to talk as a wolf as well. Personally I think Eco's wall skips a chunk of Proph's iso, and focuses on too little
and in terms of you, he talks about your vote on Osie, and if he had actually tried to read EoD, he would see it was self-preservation. Not to mention calling you out for not re-evaluating after Proph was right about Osie, which makes 0 sense to me.
but overall, yes, he does know how to write his thoughts and even respond to posts about them, if he is a wolf here
@Grape
Idk who is going to be alive tomorrow if we hit a wolf
But if we hit killjoy and he is a wolf, he is not a wolf with Proph, specifically pointing to how he and Proph handled each other towards the end of day 2.
If he thinks that is personal, so be it, but I'm trying to solve the game. I said it before, axel was using his time efficiently, you are using your time efficiently, Proph is using his time efficiently, eco is using his time efficiently (even tho this slot is probably a wolf)
But Killjoy is not, and I don't care what he thinks, maybe that makes me toxic, maybe it doesn't.
No, I think I was right, to call him irrelevant. I don't do well with AtE, and I won't argue he is doing it maliciously, and he probably believes he is doing something in some kind of bubble. But like he's not, he has made no attempt to affect the account of this game. So when I call his play useless, that's what I mean. He is doing things, but are those things doing anything? And the answer is obviously no. The only things he has done, his vote two town at EoD. And that is most certainly a fact.
I try to listen to dead townies, I completely forgot to go read DVs post though, but I certainly wasn't changing my read of Grape, especially after me and axel came to the same conclusion
these are the things I would use to call Killjoy town, these are the things I used to call him town here
but it feels kinda of nutty to be this oblivious to the game state, like even for Killjoy standards
He calls out Cantrip here, but I don't think I can say anything in regards to them not being aligned here
calls this group all null, which is correct for the time it was made
in reference to GJ's thoughts on Cantrips DV read
we get a hrmmm in reference to this, whatever that means
in reference to my game
more team references to Proph lol
meh iso diving like this is hard for my brain
Grape has been asking really good questions to both Killjoy and Eco
Ya, I dont really think he is aligned with either of them?
I don't really believe scum!Grape crafts posts this well, nor is he able to constantly poke at you if you are town and he is a wolf. Its hard to read the tunneling, maybe if this wasn't Grape it might bother me, but like I know he does it, and now he is re-evaluating you, which doesn't really make sense if he is a wolf? I mean he already has the misyeet he needs here between Killjoy or Eco
Honestly Im in currently in the mindset of, "This game is over is killjoy is town", anyways
call that lazy, but that's how I view the game right now, which is probably why I'm not overly freaking out right now
ill reread Grape now
if there are any specific posts, you want me to look into, plz let me know, since I don't really iso dive like you do
in less than 24 hours, you are voting Eco, and Eco is voting you
if you deviate you die, it's quite simple
@Proph
ya I know that feeling
the best part is from your POV, this is literally the rest of the game, and you have done nothing to figure this out
and we have a little over 24 hours left
and in terms of you, he talks about your vote on Osie, and if he had actually tried to read EoD, he would see it was self-preservation. Not to mention calling you out for not re-evaluating after Proph was right about Osie, which makes 0 sense to me.
but overall, yes, he does know how to write his thoughts and even respond to posts about them, if he is a wolf here
Idk who is going to be alive tomorrow if we hit a wolf
But if we hit killjoy and he is a wolf, he is not a wolf with Proph, specifically pointing to how he and Proph handled each other towards the end of day 2.
But Killjoy is not, and I don't care what he thinks, maybe that makes me toxic, maybe it doesn't.