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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    @Iso
    and No, I can only give BP, stop using new information to fuel you scum read on me...
    you mean Tom? lol
    Well Tom didnt directly state it, and I think me and him have a good standing currently, Osie implied it, and is again trying to get people to still vote me using it..
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    ... somehow i know what ur gunna say lol, but it wasnt me... I can only give BP
    and the BP games were after ISO claimed... so actually does make more sense that the bp taker is town, I think?
    please explain to me how the Taker can be town? scum can equally know Iso is town and swiped his BP. this actually makes me think Iso is town now... unless he's lying.
    but why would scum swipe Iso's BP over all the other possible choices, are they that afraid of his vegeance???
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Iso »
    Quote from Kabazame »
    It's also weird that his ability passes by betrayal. Why would someone betray a first responder and take his job? Does that make sense with the flavor?


    Wait, what?

    -

    As I stated coming into Day 2: Az and I Betrayed each other, so there was a net 0 there. I was also targeted with an ability that made me lose 1 BP, so my BP total is a -1 to my starting total.

    I really doubt the BP remover is a town role, which makes me think tom is scum again because how can you possibly even think that.
    Well I think he believes its a neutral role, maybe a balancer of sorts, and if my role had both, I feel like my role would be overloaded...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    BP taker probably town based on targeting iso.
    Especially if iso is scum, but even if not it's like a really slow CC shot. Not really how I imagine scum using their "extra kp"

    Which probably makes iso/dawning more likely nontown.
    what makes you come to that conclusion?
    it's a 3rd "killing" role
    Town doesn't get that much kp
    interesting, I can def see this

    @Iso
    and No, I can only give BP, stop using new information to fuel you scum read on me...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    lmao you do realize u just found one another role, because my ability can only give bp, right? or did you think I did this???
    now that you mention it...
    ... somehow i know what ur gunna say lol, but it wasnt me... I can only give BP
    and the BP games were after ISO claimed... so actually does make more sense that the bp taker is town, I think?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from tomsloger »
    BP taker probably town based on targeting iso.
    Especially if iso is scum, but even if not it's like a really slow CC shot. Not really how I imagine scum using their "extra kp"

    Which probably makes iso/dawning more likely nontown.
    what makes you come to that conclusion?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    found it:
    Quote from Iso »
    Also, someone targeted me with an ability that caused me to lose 1 BP last Night.
    Quote from Iso »
    [@Azrael] Because, gee, I dunno - maybe people allied and betrayed people they did/didn't trust? Stupid Kind of like how I betrayed you last Night because you're scum?
    uhhm I feel like he should have clarified this more...
    @Iso
    What was the outcome of your BP game?
    nvm I am an idiot... ISO... lmao you do realize u just found one another role, because my ability can only give bp, right? or did you think I did this???
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    found it:
    Quote from Iso »
    Also, someone targeted me with an ability that caused me to lose 1 BP last Night.
    Quote from Iso »
    [@Azrael] Because, gee, I dunno - maybe people allied and betrayed people they did/didn't trust? Stupid Kind of like how I betrayed you last Night because you're scum?
    uhhm I feel like he should have clarified this more...
    @Iso
    What was the outcome of your BP game?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    so I guess I should ask the question then
    @Everyone
    Did any of you lose more then 1 bp from the BP games if your outcome was B/A
    and did anyone that A/A'd lose bp?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Osie
    you're one of our scummiest players, honestly speaking. can you please make cases that don't involve shading over vocabulary?
    Seriously tho... Just saying... lol
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Phraze
    What was the results of Iso's BP Game? was it Ally/Ally? and are we implying he lost bp even tho he allied?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    I'm not lynching Phoenix toDay without something else huge. I will do analysis on him again, though. Although even assuming that there is anything there other than the admittedly weird interaction with Jenna, I am not expecting for him to drop out of my townreads, not to mention that scumreading him for that seems... convenient, especially for some of our scummiest players.

    ok, but I dont think anyone can really refute this...

    maybe a BP Thief to counter the BP Giver

    I just made a post about this...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    This is gunna be paraphrazed because obviously I cant copy and paste mod pms/dms:

    "If you ability would cause you to drop your bp to 0, you would be unable to activate your ability"
    "Suicide is not possible"

    I then asked...
    "So what happens if I lose all my BP, do I die?"
    and his answer was yes...

    Which pretty much implies at most one thing, betrayal can kill you... WHICH WAS LITERALLY THE REASON WHY I WAS NOT GUNNA BETRAY DV LOL CAUSE I WAS SURE HE WAS AT 2 BP... and one more thing, there is a slight chance, that there is an opposite to my role, which drains bp instead, maybe, but i kinda doubt it...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    @whisper
    We've got abilities with an activation cost (you, lngrr, jenna, AZ, dv, grape, osi, shin)
    Abilities that can only be used at a certain BP or threshold (iso, dawning)
    Triggered abilities (osi and shin by BP pairing, Iso by death, phoenix by... death)
    Phoenix would also be a static ability causing flips while alive...
    ...I've played a lot more magic than mafia

    @Joe
    Iso said he lost a BP.
    Is this true Iso?
    does it mean something?
    Well, yeah it means people can die as a result of getting BP robbed, which could be in addition to a faction kill.
    Wait, did you guys not already think this??? I asked Bur early on about what would happened if you lost all our BP to a betrayal... and he told me that was so... So you cant commit suicide but you can get killed by being betrayed, which is why I thought my ability was so important... I never previously brought it up because I thought you all knew this...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    uggh I know I said I wouldnt switch votes, but Terry/Myself/Kabazame/Tom have all realized that even if his role exists, its most likely scum aligned
    Sorry Pheonix Frown vote: Pheonix
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