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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Az, obviously gambit'ing has to be SOMETHING, or else my role would be pretty useless.

    As far as CFD panic, it's not like you were the calm guiding hand here. Who do you think is scum on the wagon, besides Iso?

    @LW, so your final answers for scum on the GF wagon are Azrael and Osieorb?
    Yes, I believe Iso is town now, and I def think Osie is scum, and Azreal is confusing me...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™

    @Tom
    @Azreal

    Why do you both think Iso is still scum, I mean both our trains derailed, but also neither of us got lynched...

    Like scum could just have easily gone with the flow with the Grape move, and get a townie lynched, and that would still leave some traction for my and Isos lynch today...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Iso, did you gain 3 BP last Night or not? (Technically 2 BP if you lost one.)
    why did you say 3?


    Because besides next level WIFOM, if Az was telling the truth, his only smart move would be to betray. (It's the only guaranteed way not to lose a BP.) And Iso should've betrayed also, meaning he'd be at -1 BP. If Iso was at +2, then Az was lying. I figured Az wouldn't be dumb enough to incriminate himself but people make mistakes sometimes.

    And yes, I can use my ability to determine if someone betrayed or allied.
    again if both people betray, they both gain nothing... and why would Azreal straight up lie about his matchup choice... Thats almost suicide, I mean theres always the possibility they are both scum, but I town read Iso at this point so there is no way.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Iso »
    I mean if he was townreading you then why would he have reservations about Allying you?
    but why would he possibly town read after that fiasco of day phase and EoD
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Iso »
    So what exactly were you implying with that post, then?
    cause I didnt want to get more scum read, hours before phase change because you thought my idea was stupid... isnt that what, "adding fuel to the fire" means? but actually I do get why you guys think it had a connection to my role, b/c it may you believe that I had a threshold also, or needed more bp then I was saying...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Iso »
    how does betraying somebody clear them
    i mean it matters, but in the case of Shin, unless hes trying to pocket me, there was literally no reason for him to ally me, if he was scum?... but I guess we need to wait till he gets out of work to see why he allied me..
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Iso »
    @LW: For the record, I also interpreted that post Axel/Phoenix were referring to as you having not given us all of the information about your claim.
    welp, that was not my attention, I have told you guys everything about my role
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Iso, did you gain 3 BP last Night or not? (Technically 2 BP if you lost one.)
    why did you say 3?
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.

    Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
    why did you assume that the V was Jenna? Im saying the V in that case would be Tom...


    Because the order he put it in?

    Also, why are you asking about my claim? Just curious.
    because didnt you say you get figure out liars between pair ups or something? is this not a great time to talk about it? or am I wrong?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Phoenix-Fire »
    @Last Whisper: Then why did you betray?
    I posted it?

    1. I wanted to see who was paying attention to the game
    2. I wanted to use it to clear someone if possible
    3. I didnt want to give points to possible scum, of course the exceptions last night wouldve been(D.V, and Grr)
    because D.V said he would claim if I did that, and that I didnt want
    and I think Grr said something around the same thing
    and Dawn was a special case that I would betray just to give her the correct threshold to rb...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Az, please explain why you think you have any credibility in this game right now.

    Why do you think Tom/Jenna might be wolf/village? When Jenna came in, she noted her implicit trust in Tom, and then Tom took to her quite quickly. Why do you think Jenna would be village in that case?
    why did you assume that the V was Jenna? Im saying the V in that case would be Tom...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    GrrrHow does your role work again? It'd take forever to find your post on it again...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    Quote from Phoenix-Fire »
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    kys... But thanks for finally placing me in L2.

    Name: Sean
    Role Name: Town BP Giver (yes town is literally in my name)
    Starting BP: 3
    Active: Access the System, costs 1 BP, Give 1 BP to a target player

    So, what was all the business about saying how you are definitely betraying someone tonight? I expected either (1) a claim where you betraying someone actually has a benefit, maybe even to the person you betray or (2) you get something extra special when you betray. This claim has nothing to do with anything. It's just whatever.

    Can you explain what was/is up with the "definitely betraying" position?
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    @axelrod im not adding fuel to my fire right now, that will be something you wont know unless I survive... Smile
    Oh so this isn't you softing that there is in fact more to your role than you claimed and said was definitely your full claim?
    nope, that me not wanting to explain why I was def betraying... also how about explaining why you think I didnt give you all the information about my role? do you want me to make a tldr of my roles flavor text, would that help? lol
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    @Azreal plz stop defending me at this point, and that mind meld (dont give scum additional info) isnt giving more reason to trust you just yet. Idk how you can even hard defend just by basing it all on my emotional play, like if I died last night it wouldve been better then grape haha...
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - GAME OVER - No More Complex Motives™
    and can I say something, this may be an unpopular opinion, but when it comes to Tom/Jenna, there is no other option but but W/V or W/W, thats just how I see it
    Posted in: Mafia
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