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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 11: Team "Assassins" vs. Team "Micro Mech"
    My lack of knowledge makes this a difficult one to call. I haven't played Assassin's Creed, so I've no idea what Ezio is capable of. Neither have I watched a lot of Stargate, so I don't know if Grey Fox's sword could overcome Replicator Carter's invulnerability (I do think it could overcome her regen, though).
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 9: Team "Crazy Supernatural Killers" vs. Team "Chaotic Genius"
    Quote from Von
    Can Abaddon's armor survive hundreds of gigatons of concentrated force? I don't think so.


    From the 40K Wiki:

    "Abaddon's extraordinary connection to all 4 of the major Chaos Gods and multiple arcane layers of daemonic protection means that he cannot be killed outright by anything in the purely physical world."

    I think that Dante and Bayonetta might be able to triumph over Abaddon by himself. But with half an hour to have Tezzeret magically augment and copy his tech? Not so much.
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  • posted a message on You versus an RPG
    I've been playing the crap out of Kingdoms of Amalur recently, and I think I'd make an okay Fateless One. All that walking around would get me in shape pretty quickly. I'd definitely take the Mage path, learn alchemy, and pack around as many healing, regen, and buff potions as I could carry.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 9: Team "Crazy Supernatural Killers" vs. Team "Chaotic Genius"
    But for all of his incredible physical gifts, he doesn't really have that much in the way of psychic, magical or even intellectual gifts.


    Wait, what?? Abaddon is one of the most powerful psykers in the galaxy.

    40K Wiki - Mark of Chaos

    "The Mark of Tzeentch is given to the most devoted followers of Tzeentch, the Changer of Ways, and bestows potent psychic powers on the bearer."

    Note also the sick regen granted by the Mark of Nurgle.

    Edit: I just thought of something. Aside from the Claw of Horus, Abaddon's terminator armor wouldn't count as legendary since it was mass-produced - which would allow Tezzeret to use Copy Artifact or a similar spell to create a duplicate of it for himself.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 9: Team "Crazy Supernatural Killers" vs. Team "Chaotic Genius"
    I'd just like to point out that the Blessing of Tzeentch lets Abaddon see the future around him and react at incredible speeds. Those with a mark far less powerful than his have used it to slow down time and move at speeds that made them invisible, even to the super-fast eldar.

    But that isn't even the deciding factor here. Tezzeret will crank up Abaddon's force field before the match and expand it to cover the both of them. I don't think Dante and Bayonetta will be prepared to put out the amount of firepower it would take to break through it.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 10: Team "Final Fantasy Villains" vs. Team "Psychic Monsters"
    Do you think Sephiroths non-existent mental state actually hinders his ability to resist mental attack? Interesting. That could come into play if you're right about that. I dunno the science behind such a confrontation.


    All it would take is one spell to unhinge his mind (bombarding it with images of traumatic childhood events and his "mother"), then one spell to control him (offering to make the pain stop, and opportunities for greater power than Jenova could have offered).

    Bolas is infamous for using spells of this nature. He appears in the art (and in the names) of quite a few of them. Mind control is even one of his planeswalker abilities. He's also manipulated minds far more powerful than Sephiroth's.

    Quote from Poring
    I'm no psychologist, so I don't know if being mentally unhinged would make you more susceptible to mind screw or more resistant to it. My bet would be that Kefka and Sephiroth are so messed up that there's nothing Mewtwo or Bolas could do to further the destruction of their already fractured minds. However, the converse could be true, that their insanity would actually be more conducive to being hit by psychic attacks.


    It's also got a lot to do with the method of the psychic attack. Bolas could definitely speak to him telepathically, and knowing Sephiroth's past and motivations, would know exactly what to say. Sephiroth desires power above all else, and Bolas is a being with far more of that at his disposal than Jenova. His reinforcement of his words with powerful magic (i.e. planeswalker ability, Slave of Bolas, etc.) would seal the deal. And now that I think of it, he could probably entice Kefka as well by offering him multiple worlds over which he could become a god.

    Quote from Poring
    Oh, and for the record, Sora is badass.


    Agreed. Sora has some pretty sick feats. At his most powerful I'd consider him a decent match for Superman.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 10: Team "Final Fantasy Villains" vs. Team "Psychic Monsters"
    Sephiroth's mind isn't that well put together, and Bolas will know this. He'll crush Seph's mind and turn him into a pawn (which he is well-known for doing) to use in taking down Kefka, then get Mewtwo to help hold him in place while the two pummel him into submission with TK and Blightning.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 9: Team "Crazy Supernatural Killers" vs. Team "Chaotic Genius"
    Aside from the Emprah and the Chaos Gods (who themselves command world-shaking power), Abaddon is the most powerful being in his galaxy. He has a soul-killing sword, and a demonic mark that gives him some ridiculous powers (regeneration, precognition, time manipulation, energy blasts, emotion control, etc). He and Tezzeret together are a mighty force, and I just don't think that the Supernatural Killers have the firepower to take them down. Can they overcome massively powerful magic wards, force fields, armor strong enough to withstand a small nuke, and near-instant regeneration?

    Also, prep time starts out with Abaddon turning his teammate into Tezzeret, Servant of the Dark Mechanicum, and upgrading him with chaos-empowered 40K nanotech. Subjugating powerful sorcerers to the will of Chaos is kind of his schtick, and poor old Tez is a professional pawn.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 10: Team "Final Fantasy Villains" vs. Team "Psychic Monsters"
    Bolas could probably crush them all, but I just want to point out that his appearances in Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Kingdom Hearts have made Sephiroth into a pretty legitimate badass. He's blindingly fast, he flies, he teleports, he's durable, he wrecks skyscrapers, and he casts some pretty potent magic. Nothing like Bolas and his mind-frag touch, but not exactly weak either.

    Also, Kefka is weird in that his power level depends on how many espers he's drained magic from. In his last showing before he
    becomes God
    he was projecting illusions, annihilating dozens of espers in one blow, and completely shrugging off very powerful attacks.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 8: Team "Dark Lords" vs. Team "Human Mental Prowess"
    Quote from Fluffy_Bunny
    Also everyone is underestimating Palpatine... his force lightning is powerful enough to light up an entire planet(he was torturing Luke not trying to turn him to dust). He has also been able to create a Force Storm (worm hole)....


    Actually, that was the clone Palpatine from the Dark Empire comics, whose power levels were FAR above the version being used here.

    Quote from KyleR

    Oh look...Doom defeated Galactus.


    That time, no, he didn't. That's from Secret Wars, when Doom followed Big G to the Beyonder's ship and it blasted them both out of orbit. It is, however, a pretty good example of what Doom's force fields can stand up to.

    Quote from Fluffy_Bunny
    Voldemort can make a giant flaming snake to attack Doom or something else more wide spread.


    Which wouldn't really do anything since both Doom and Luthor's armor are built to withstand pretty heavy-duty temperatures. Luthor's can withstand Superman's heat vision, and Doom's can take a point-blank blast from an atomic grenade without a scratch, even without the force fields.

    Quote from Fluffy_Bunny
    We are also seeming to forget the vast breath of options Voldemort has. He could easily cloak himself and Palpatine in invisibility and teleport around the arena and lay magical traps for the other team to deal with (or technological if the Emperor brings anything fun from Star Wars land).


    Traps would be useless, since Doom can see magic. And being a far more talented sorcerer than Voldemort, he could probably re-work them to attack the Dark Lords instead.

    As for tech...Doom can pretty much instantly identify and reprogram alien technology. He's come up with tech far more impressive than anything I've seen in Star Wars, including better planet-busters than anything Palpatine ever commissioned. Luthor's no slouch in that department, either; he's built time machines from scratch, a technology which continues to baffle the most advanced minds in the SW universe.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 8: Team "Dark Lords" vs. Team "Human Mental Prowess"
    Quote from Poring
    The entire duel between Dumbledore and Voldemort was nonverbal in both the book and movie, IIRC, so Voldemort operates at the speed of thought in most cases, even when fighting an über mage. I'd say the only time Voldemort really needs to speak out his spell is for using Avada Kedavra or any of the other Unforgivable Curses.


    Fair enough. So it basically comes down to whose reaction time is faster. I believe there's a passage in one of the later books referring to Voldemort casting "with the speed of a striking snake," but that's about it. Doom, on the other hand, is fast enough to outmaneuver the Beast, whose own superhuman reflexes are well-documented. He's even faster against magic.

    Quote from Poring
    However, I think that's all inconsequential, since you don't believe Voldemort could dispell Doom anyway. :p


    It's a matter of degrees, really. Doom has wiped the floor with better mages than Tom Riddle - such as Ceranda (who was powerful enough to screw with the enchantment that Odin placed on Mjolnir), whose power he drained completely and added to his own.

    All of this is also ignoring the fact that Doom could just lock his armor and use the Ovoid Mind Transfer to switch bodies with Palpatine, then cut Voldy in half with his lightsaber.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 8: Team "Dark Lords" vs. Team "Human Mental Prowess"
    You know, Kraken does sort of have a point. Instead of discussing why one team or another should win the fight, we should discuss how that team would win.

    To say that Palpatine and Voldemort are tricky would be a vast understatement. Voldemort, being the veteran of many a wizards' duel, would expect Doom to use part of his prep time equipping himself and Luthor with his most powerful magical wards (which he would, indeed, do). Thus he wouldn't open with Avada Kedavra, but with his mightiest Dispelling Charm, in an attempt to take down Doom's wards. He would do this while Palpatine simultaneously Force-choked Mental Prowess and strafed them with lightning.

    Regrettably, though, it would not be enough. Doom would begin the match by pointing at Voldemort and using the atomic blaster in the index finger of his right glove to take him down before he can activate his Dispelling Charm (not that it would have worked anyway). All he has to do is point and think, while Voldemort needs to speak the words. And between Doom's superhuman pain tolerance and his armor's computer guidance systems, the Force choke won't affect his aim.

    While Luthor would be more affected by the choke, he would also be able to lay down enough suppressing fire to break Palpatine's concentration. Once that's done and Voldemort is out of the fight, he can just take to the air and bombard Palpatine, keeping him on the defensive while Doom finishes him off with a magic blast too big for him to evade.

    And as for the Force lightning, it simply isn't powerful enough to break through Doom's force field or Luthor's.
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  • posted a message on Best of the Best (Battle of the Two Drops)
    Tarmogoyf is going down first. Then Snapcaster, Stoneforge, and Zealot square off and whoever comes out on top, Bob will step out of the shadows and take them out.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 7: Team "Basketballers" vs. Team "Electromagnetic Pulse"
    The Basketballers will get fried, but not before Barkley manages to make a slam-dunk through Magneto's shields (which, IIRC, have stood up to a blast from Galactus) and off the top of his helmet.

    Also, I get the feeling that a few minutes of the Basketballers' prep time will be consumed by a Kazaam rap.
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  • posted a message on [TOC] Round 1, Match 8: Team "Dark Lords" vs. Team "Human Mental Prowess"
    Doom can put down Palpatine and Voldemort by himself. I don't know how Lex would fare; does he get access to his power armor?
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