I agree with Jeremy, and quite frankly find this thread a joke. The rules basically prevent any discussion that sides with what he said, which I believe makes this thread little more than an echo chamber.
So why do you agree with him, and what are you agreeing with in particular?
Fair question, and I am trying to answer in accordance with the thread's guidelines:
I watched the video by Sprankle months ago where she discussed how she was not paid to cosplay at major events. Her costumes, travel, lodging was all paid out of pocket, and that she was losing the ability to afford to do this. That is no one's fault but her own. Personally, I hate what Patreon has done, turning people into virtual panhandlers wanting their hobbies funded by strangers. And yes, that extends to Jeremy, who I do not support on Patreon. She began to cry, and all I could think was "this is not my problem." Jeremy took a very similar stance, while also making the claim that she was only getting support by way of being one of the few instances of a woman involved with MtG who may be considered cute by the general public. Personally, I agree with that too but realize it is only speculation. I think he's been critical, but nothing that I would consider harassment. The goalposts have been moved, I think too far, for where criticism and mockery becomes harassment. Everyone's emotions are within his or her control, barring illness or injury. If someone upsets me, which hell happens all the time, I'm mad for about five minutes then say "good thing it won't affect my physical safety or wallet" and move on. Too many people now get upset, then demand retribution that anyone dared be remotely mean.
I think the entire culture of "this person sent a hatemob after me" needs to end. People should be held accountable for their own actions. Anyone who made any sort of threat of violence is wrong, but the only person responsible in such a case is the person who sent the threat. It's easier to point to a content creator, because you know their face and name. Doesn't make it the correct move.
EDIT: I did not see purklefluff's comment. the correct response to someone being upset is not always to apologize if that emotional response isn't reasonable. Again, the goalposts culturally of reasonable emotional reactions is moving, and I don't think in a wise way.
I’ll never understand why people think it’s acceptable to tell others how to feel. Just because your reaction to a situation is brushing it off within 5 minutes doesn’t mean that is how it has to be for every other person. If someone has a response you do not deem “reasonable,” that is your fault, not theirs.
However, this noble goal of self-reflection you espouse is undermined when the rules of engagement boil down to "agree or don't post."
If someone can't agree that hatred and misogyny have no place on MTGSalvation, then there's no place on MTGSalvation for them. Speaking in defense of those things is not "healthy discourse" and we aren't going to play some kind of false equivalency game and pretend otherwise.
Pretty much how I see this. It’s beyond the point of needing to hear the other side. We get it. We see it every day. We can watch Jeremy’s videos, look at his tweets, go on reddit, etc. We do not need to have this evil other side to have the discussion. It’s past that.
I’ll never understand why people think it’s acceptable to tell others how to feel. Just because your reaction to a situation is brushing it off within 5 minutes doesn’t mean that is how it has to be for every other person. If someone has a response you do not deem “reasonable,” that is your fault, not theirs.
Pretty much how I see this. It’s beyond the point of needing to hear the other side. We get it. We see it every day. We can watch Jeremy’s videos, look at his tweets, go on reddit, etc. We do not need to have this evil other side to have the discussion. It’s past that.