1. Do you often overexplain to this degree for an RVS comment?
2. How do you know that people here can't read Vaimes? I've never seen him get away as scum.
3. Are you sure this is the same Vaimes? Your description of him does not sound like him at all.
1) I re-read #6, thought "Wow that sounds insulting", so I went into detail.
2a) I can't be sure the people who can read Vaimes are Town. I don't want to write a giant essay on all my interactions with Vaimes, but another factor is elsewhere the games I've had with Vaimes normally had a player named fontisian, who has a claimed and historical 100% accuracy on reading Vaimes as Town, and therefore tends to get locked into correctly reading him even if she's scum, and recently players have been saying Vaimes is moving away from a transparent meta (towards a consistent-mislynch meta).
2b) I'm not concerned about him getting away if he's scum, I'm concerned about him getting mislynched if he's Town. I've only seen Vaimes NK'd once, and it wasn't due to his own efforts.
3) I'm sure, I can't speak for differences in experiences with him.
Reaverb, there's at least two people on that list who can read me very well. Maybe three. Hopefully they're all town!
Who are these people?
----- @Voxxicus Can you explain your RVS behavior? Particularly your votes on Vaimes and Shadow and why you made post #8
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They voted shadow in #9, had an immediate mind-meld with Shadow on my posts with #10 (Shadow) and #11 (DoTArchon), and then didn't comment on the near-identical questions or retract their vote on Shadow even though shadow has become the top wagon.
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I don't think voting Shadow makes sense. I disagree with his point on Voxx in #41 and #50, but I fail to see the scum-motivation for it (I don't see Vox getting mislynched on page 1 either). I like his game-solving when interacting with Vaimes and myself. L-2 this early strikes me as crazy.
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Hey Vaimes normally I rely on people who claim they can read you but there aren't any of those players in this game so you're going to have to try harder.
It occurs to me this might sound mean so let me elaborate:
I've played with Vaimes a few times. Normally he's on the lower end of the activity spectrum and post few reads with few reasons, but stumbles into a Town read because some players claim he is very easy to read through some tonal tells. I don't normally scumhunt on tone so I'm mostly clueless there and just follow the townfirms who claim to be able to read him (There are enough that normally one is townfirmed and townread). However, none of those players are present in this game, so I'm hoping Vaimes will give more reads and more reasons for those reads so I can actually get a decent read on him.
I do enjoy playing with Vaimes most of the time, sometimes it's a little frustrating to have little info to go on but I very much like him in the game.
Hey Vaimes normally I rely on people who claim they can read you but there aren't any of those players in this game so you're going to have to try harder.
1) I re-read #6, thought "Wow that sounds insulting", so I went into detail.
2a) I can't be sure the people who can read Vaimes are Town. I don't want to write a giant essay on all my interactions with Vaimes, but another factor is elsewhere the games I've had with Vaimes normally had a player named fontisian, who has a claimed and historical 100% accuracy on reading Vaimes as Town, and therefore tends to get locked into correctly reading him even if she's scum, and recently players have been saying Vaimes is moving away from a transparent meta (towards a consistent-mislynch meta).
2b) I'm not concerned about him getting away if he's scum, I'm concerned about him getting mislynched if he's Town. I've only seen Vaimes NK'd once, and it wasn't due to his own efforts.
3) I'm sure, I can't speak for differences in experiences with him.
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Who are these people?
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@Voxxicus Can you explain your RVS behavior? Particularly your votes on Vaimes and Shadow and why you made post #8
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Vote: DoTArchon
They voted shadow in #9, had an immediate mind-meld with Shadow on my posts with #10 (Shadow) and #11 (DoTArchon), and then didn't comment on the near-identical questions or retract their vote on Shadow even though shadow has become the top wagon.
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I don't think voting Shadow makes sense. I disagree with his point on Voxx in #41 and #50, but I fail to see the scum-motivation for it (I don't see Vox getting mislynched on page 1 either). I like his game-solving when interacting with Vaimes and myself. L-2 this early strikes me as crazy.
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I'd prefer you say why you think Vaimes is mafia now.
Where have you played before?
I've played with Vaimes a few times. Normally he's on the lower end of the activity spectrum and post few reads with few reasons, but stumbles into a Town read because some players claim he is very easy to read through some tonal tells. I don't normally scumhunt on tone so I'm mostly clueless there and just follow the townfirms who claim to be able to read him (There are enough that normally one is townfirmed and townread). However, none of those players are present in this game, so I'm hoping Vaimes will give more reads and more reasons for those reads so I can actually get a decent read on him.
I do enjoy playing with Vaimes most of the time, sometimes it's a little frustrating to have little info to go on but I very much like him in the game.
Hey Vaimes normally I rely on people who claim they can read you but there aren't any of those players in this game so you're going to have to try harder.
I have Mafia experience from elsewhere. I've heard good things about this community, and played with a few community members off-site.