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  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    3-1 last night at modern. 2-0 vs Thop sword, 2-0 vs Tezzretor, 1-2 vs Blue moon and 2-0 vs Tron

    Game 1 against blue moon I was burried in cryptics and snaps, game 2 turn 3 Thrun settled things pretty quick. Game 3 I put him down to 4 and I was on 7, but I had 3 huge ground creatures( 2 trackers and a baloth) and no fliers. He had 4 1/1 elementals, 2 thops, 2 torrential gearhulks, and was getting in with thops. I knew i was dead to a bolt or some such so I just did what I could with the trackers to draw ANYTHING that would change the outcome of a race. I had a moon and my opponent only had 1 island (which is why I kept 3 moons in) and it turned out he had no counterspells. A stormbreath or Pia and Kira would have been lethal, Inferno titan would have been lethal in my next turn, Baloth would have swung my life total, same with primal command. But instead the 7 cards I drew over 2 turns before he killed me were 3 land, a relic, 2 utopia sprawls and an Arbor elf:(

    Other than that cancerous piece of variance a good night over all.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    They stall the board. Beat 1 for 1 removal, are a removal spell, team up great with tracker, and just control the board in general by makeing your opponents combat maths a nightmare.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    I recomend you spend $2 to grab a pair of Pia and Kiran Nalaars.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Quote from The Fluff »
    Thinking of buying this deck for Christmas - already have the important pieces at my SCG shopping cart.

    Just one question to the residents of this thread. I notice that Stone Rain is used by several lists... but is it possible to use Molten Rain instead of Stone Rain? Is getting double R hard for this deck in the early turns? Thanks.


    Double red can be tough on turn 2, and the damage molten rain causes generally either costs us 2 damage (to shock for the double red) or is literally heling our opponent with all the deaths shadow builds

    Quote from SpaciousBox »
    This deck seems to have changed a lot in the last month. What has caused the move towards mid-range creature builds? I am a big fan of the Huntsmaster inclusion however I must say. Just seems odd that most people appear to be running less land destruction, less control, and more creatures. I always saw this as a very control orientated deck, is that still the case?


    Going wide and presenting blockers is great against shadow and other midrange decks. It's about disrupting their curve then playing a hard to deal with threat early.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    You should run pia. Old hydra bro is a card I'm not a fan of though. Too pushable. And too many decks don't care about it.

    Our best threats are imo

    The best ones
    Tracker
    Pia and Kiran Nalaar
    Huntmaster
    Stormbae
    Inferno titan
    Wurmcoil engine
    Chandra, torch of bae

    Other decent ones tht are more meta dependant
    Swagtusk
    Chameleon colossus
    Scavenging ooze
    Dragonlord Attarka
    Thunderbreak regent
    Goblin dark dwellers (as a build around)


    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    My SB is 2 anger 1 Swealtering suns.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    I play 0 sweepers main, 3 sb.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Affinity gets WAY better after Sb. Game 1 is like 70-30 in their favor with 2 being us slightly favored on the play, and an evenish game 3.
    Infect is bad, But a turn 2 Pia and Kiran is nigh unbeatable. And bringing in spot removal after SB is obviously decent.

    Other tough matches are mono colored decks with focused game plans like Elves, Merfolk and mono white D&T.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Yeah, another important detail. When attacked before blocks my opponent cast snapcaster, block an arbor elf path to exile pia and kiran. So my line of putting him to 2 to kill with thop in upkeep failed, then got rekt by verdict
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Only went 2-2 at modern last night!!! Gaping Beat 5 color deaths shadow 2-1 and Abzan 2-0. But then lost 2-1 to U/W control, losing a very very very tight game 1 to what I think was a misplay, but the lads think was a decision too tough to call, Winning game 2 resoundingly then getting destroyed game 3 by double spell queller when I had not sided for that plan.

    Then, in the ultimate game of shame. I lost 2-0 to Breach titan!!!! Game 1 no bloodmoon hand, but a good hand none the less, but the game went a turn too long and I died. Game 2 mull to 6, no moon, but 5 good cards and a ancient grudge (this player is known for his SB cruciables) then I draw a 2nd grudge off the top after bottoming my scry. He wins pretty handily. I am dumb.

    Was a rough night. Here's my 'misplay' against U/W and I wanna hear opinions...

    My board is Pia and Kiran, 2 Arbor elf, 2 thops. I have 8 mana including the elves, and it's all open. U/w is on 9 life. I have a beast within as my last card. My opponent has no permanents. And has 2 cards in hand after he casts his Gideon of the trials, and ticks up targeting pia and kiran. I tell him I may have responses and I go into the tank.



    Line 1. If I throw a thop at my opponent in response, then beast within my own land that had been spreading seas'd in his end step I put him to 1 life in my attack step. If I do not throw the thop but beast within the land anyway he goes to 2. 2 life is no different than 1 for this deck I felt so I didn't want to throw the thop at my opponent. So beast within my land and attack for 7 is line 1...

    Line 2. But should I throw both thops at Gideon? Kill the G dog, beast within my land and attack my opponent down to 4 with 2 elves and a beast was the 2nd line.

    Line 3. No response to Gideon, cast beast within targeting gideon in my opponents next upkeep, after attacking my opponent for 4 in my turn. Down to 5 life. Depending on what card I draw for turn I guess.

    Line 1 has the highest ceiling, but the lowest floor if he has supreme verdict. I went for it... and was punished. Supreme verdict goes boom, and Gideon runs away with the game. I felt it was a strict misplay looking back.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Quote from Dhakra »
    Quote from Weakatchu »
    Do you keep hands with 1 land + Utopia ?
    I feel it quite risky


    On the play? Never.
    On the draw? Yes, but only with 3 drop in hand. And also only with Sprawl, if it's land + elf I mulli.


    You're missing out on dem sweet free wins.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    If you have a moon the ceiling is HIGH. If you have an elf as well that can also be fine.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Quote from Weakatchu »
    I tried a version with 21 lands (9 fetchs) to make Tireless Trackers even better, with a list similar to @Moonbreaker1072 posted here http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dank-ponza/

    with a few tweaks :
    9th fetches
    Ooze -> Trinisphere
    1 P&K -> Third Chandra ToD

    It was only friendly matches against GDS, Utron, Eldra BW Tax, Ad Nauseam

    I don't know why, but I had to mulligan every hand, and went to mull 5 a lot of time, and got wrecked from it.
    Mainly mull caused by having less than 2 lands (0 or 1) or more than 4
    I could say that my average starting hand size was <= 6, am I doing something wrong?
    I feel that I shuffle enough, but... is that just bad luck

    Quick report :

    Against GDS :
    Mulligans are a pain against discard decks
    Cham Colossus is auto win
    I had some wonderings, where I could StoneRain Watery Grave or Blood Crypt for example, and it seems like blue is better to kill, how do you feelabout this?

    Against Utron :
    Being first helps a lot, Thrun is great sb

    Against EldraTax :
    Blood moon is huge, Aether Vial is dumb.
    Having no sweepers MB is a problem.

    Against Ad Nauseam :
    Trinisphere is quite autowin, otherwise, I had no real solutions MB


    If you count utopia sprawls as land you will mull less often. Do not count elves as sprawls. It will end in heartbreak.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Thragtusk is a better card tha Baloth, But Baloth is the better card in the match where you need it. Burn. He comes down sooner and is just as hard to deal with

    Crumbum is great against tron. A match where we need no favors.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    I play no real removal main. Only 2 beast within, 2 Pia and Kiran and 2 Inferno titan. Board I play 3 anger 3 bolts. But I can't imagine boarding them in againt a sultai deck. Just kill them. Or moon them.
    Posted in: Midrange
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