This has worked very well for me so far, I've been considering trying out a Field of Ruin but don't know if it'll be much better then tec-edge.
Anyways back to buried ruin, the card has been fantastic for me as there are so many situations when I just want to get an artifact back to your hand (for me at least).
I think you guys should really give the card a shot, as I've found it to be fantastic.
Round 1 - Elves
I win game one with an early chalice on 1. Game two I land a chalice on 1 t2 on the draw, into Angel. Has Reclamation Sage for my angel and attacks for game. I get early chalice for a 3rd time, but lose to the reach of his Shaman of the Pack. lost 1-2
Record: 0-1
Round 2 - Bant Spirits
I win game one by bouncing his board t4 with rift and counter all his threats till I had the kill. Game 2 gain early advantage with a gemstone caverns and end up t3 troning him for win with ballista. won 2-0
Record: 1-1
Round 3 - Jund
He keeps a hand with no hand disruption, so I just played like tron usually does while he was beating in with goyf till I won with wurmcoil. Game 2 I miss a land 2 lands and he wins with goyf and chandra, torch of defiance. Game 3 I counter all his stuff, clean up the GY of ancient grudges into mindslaver lock for win. won 2-1
Record: 2-1
Round 4 - Grixis DS
I knew his deck like the back of my hand so game 1 I just counter/bounce everything that matters and won with sundering titan. Game two I he inquisition'd me to see my hand full of draw and counters, and instead of playing stuff decided to keep beating in with his t2 tasigur and not playing anyting. I ended up drawing into pure gas and mindslaver him for win. won 2-0
Record: 3-1
Conclusion:
I was overall impressed with my deck's performance and found chalice to be amazing. I've also found sundering titan to be amazing and don't get why many lists are cutting him. Buried ruin was great, as there are many times when I need an artifact in my yard to win, such as against spirits, where I used it to get back ballista and pop him in the face with it for game. Solemn was amazing, especially against elves and jund. The only card in the SB I was disappointed with was the summary dismissal, which I may be switching out for a TKS.
It'd be appreciated if y'all could let me know what you think of my list, and what could be improved in it.
As for mana rocks I love them, but I struggle to find a place in the mainboard to squeeze them in. Already I can't get every spell I want in there and it's not as though the deck every struggles to curve out. That being said I'm up to 2 engineered explosives (1 main, 1 side), and I would loooove some rocks to get it up to CMC 3.
one of the main solutions to this problem that I've found can just be to play a black land, like River of Tears or Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth, then all you have to play for rocks is Talisman of progress. Plus if you decide to play urborg as your black source, it also works well with titan for killing manlands, opposing tron lands, etc.
Game 1 he gets a Dromoka into play and I concede, game 2 I have no idea what I'm up against so I just side in the orbs. After about 20 mins of me stalling with platinum angel I get mindslaver for the win. Game 3 we had about 5 mins on the clock, I was very close to winning but we ended up going to time
Current record: 0-0-1
Round 2
Bogles
I get crushed Game 1 and 2 by a T3-4 kill.
Current record: 0-1-1
Round 3
BW Aristocrats/tokens/midrange?
Game 1 goes kinda long as I try to slow down whatever he was trying to do as much as possible, but I end up conceding after not being able to land a threat. Game 2 I miss a land then lose to an atheros and an army of zulaport cutthroat, spirits, blood artist, etc.
Current record: 0-2-1
Round 4
Jund
Game 1 I lose to a goyf after tapping out t3 for coax. Game 2 I bring in 2 relic 1 needle 1 orbs, I land a t1 relic and end up grinding him out till I landed a wurmcoil and elder deep-fiend, and was able to beat him. Game 3 I get turn 1 relic again, turn 2 we both miss a land but I pithing needle naming lili of the veil. I land a wurmcoil and he concedes soon after. I asked this guy after the match, and he said he was only running lili for hand-hate which definitely improved this MU for me a lot.
Record: 1-2-1
I made A LOT of misplays and really screwed up on sbing in every MU except jund. I was trying a couple new things though and I think that the coax wishboard was AMAZING. I'm considering adding more TKS or an endbringer to the sb, thoughts on that?
Any recommendations on how I could change my list?
4 Urza's power plant
4 Urza's tower
4 Urza's mine
1 Tolaria west
1 River of tears
6 Island
1 Gemstone Caverns
1 Tectonic edge
1 Academy ruins
1 Buried ruin
This has worked very well for me so far, I've been considering trying out a Field of Ruin but don't know if it'll be much better then tec-edge.
Anyways back to buried ruin, the card has been fantastic for me as there are so many situations when I just want to get an artifact back to your hand (for me at least).
I think you guys should really give the card a shot, as I've found it to be fantastic.
4 Reckless Bushwhacker
2 Rigging Runner
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Goblin Freerunner
1 Goblin Glory Chaser
4 Goblin Guide
3 Goblin Piledriver
4 Legion Loyalist
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Gut Shot
Sorceries
4 Goblin Grenade
Lands
18 Mountain
3 Dragon's Claw
1 Goblin Chieftain
1 Goblin Piledriver
1 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Magus of the Moon
2 Ratchet Bomb
3 Smash to Smithereens
2 Tormod's Crypt
Thoughts?
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Greater Gargadon
Planeswalker
4 Nahiri, the Harbinger
1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 Tamiyo, Field Researcher
Instant
4 Violent Outburst
Sorcery
4 Restore Balance
Enchantment
2 Detention Sphere
4 Ardent Plea
3 As Foretold
2 Blood Moon
4 Fieldmist Borderpost
4 Firewild Borderpost
3 Wildfield Borderpost
Land
4 Evolving Wilds
2 Forest
2 Island
3 Mountain
2 Plains
2 Terramorphic Expanse
2 Kozilek's Return
2 Krosan Grip
4 Leyline of Sanctity
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Ricochet Trap
2 Timely Reinforcements
Thoughts?
Went 3-1 with this list:
1 Walking ballista
1 Trinket mage
1 Treasure mage
2 Wurmcoil engine
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Platinum Angel
1 Sundering titan
Artifact
2 Mindslaver
4 expedition map
1 talisman of dominance
1 Oblivion stone
1 Chalice of the void
Sorcery
1 Fabricate
Instant
4 Thirst for knowledge
4 Condescend
3 Repeal
1 Spell burst
3 Remand
1 supreme will
1 cyclonic rift
12 Urza lands
6 Island
1 Buried Ruin
1 River of tears
1 Academy ruins
1 Tectonic Edge
1 gemstone caverns
1 Tolaria west
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Relic of progenitus
1 Pithing needle
1 spell pierce
2 spreading seas
1 negate
3 Spatial contortion
1 Hurkyl's recall
2 Dismember
1 summary dismissal
1 orbs of warding
Here were my MUs
Round 1 - Elves
I win game one with an early chalice on 1. Game two I land a chalice on 1 t2 on the draw, into Angel. Has Reclamation Sage for my angel and attacks for game. I get early chalice for a 3rd time, but lose to the reach of his Shaman of the Pack. lost 1-2
Record: 0-1
Round 2 - Bant Spirits
I win game one by bouncing his board t4 with rift and counter all his threats till I had the kill. Game 2 gain early advantage with a gemstone caverns and end up t3 troning him for win with ballista. won 2-0
Record: 1-1
Round 3 - Jund
He keeps a hand with no hand disruption, so I just played like tron usually does while he was beating in with goyf till I won with wurmcoil. Game 2 I miss a land 2 lands and he wins with goyf and chandra, torch of defiance. Game 3 I counter all his stuff, clean up the GY of ancient grudges into mindslaver lock for win. won 2-1
Record: 2-1
Round 4 - Grixis DS
I knew his deck like the back of my hand so game 1 I just counter/bounce everything that matters and won with sundering titan. Game two I he inquisition'd me to see my hand full of draw and counters, and instead of playing stuff decided to keep beating in with his t2 tasigur and not playing anyting. I ended up drawing into pure gas and mindslaver him for win. won 2-0
Record: 3-1
Conclusion:
I was overall impressed with my deck's performance and found chalice to be amazing. I've also found sundering titan to be amazing and don't get why many lists are cutting him. Buried ruin was great, as there are many times when I need an artifact in my yard to win, such as against spirits, where I used it to get back ballista and pop him in the face with it for game. Solemn was amazing, especially against elves and jund. The only card in the SB I was disappointed with was the summary dismissal, which I may be switching out for a TKS.
It'd be appreciated if y'all could let me know what you think of my list, and what could be improved in it.
one of the main solutions to this problem that I've found can just be to play a black land, like River of Tears or Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth, then all you have to play for rocks is Talisman of progress. Plus if you decide to play urborg as your black source, it also works well with titan for killing manlands, opposing tron lands, etc.
3 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Platinum angel
1 Sundering titan
1 Kozilek, The great distortion
4 expedition map
1 talisman of dominance
2 mindslaver
2 Opt
4 Condescend
1 Spell Burst
2 Repeal
2 Spatial Contortion
1 Cyclonic Rift
3 Remand
4 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Supreme will
1 Gifts Ungiven
6 island
1 River of tears
1 Tolaria west
1 Gemstone Caverns
1 Buried ruin
1 Academy ruins
12 Urza lands
1 spell pierce
1 grafdigger's cage
1 relic of progenitus
1 pithing needle
2 negate
1 hurkyl's recall
2 spatial contortion
3 dismember
1 summary dismissal
1 orbs of warding
1 elder deep-fiend
I can't afford chalice yet
I also play in a very control/combo oriented meta so I find the mindslavers and thought knots very good.
It seems like a cool option and could possibly be played 2 / 2 with tec edge.
I haven't personally tried it but I think some sort of toolbox like this could be potentially powerful.
Any thoughts?
2 Treasure mage
1 Silent arbiter
1 Wurmcoil engine
1 Platinum angel
1 Sundering titan
Artifacts:
4 Expedition map
1 Simic Signet
2 Mindslaver
Sorceries:
1 Fabricate
2 Coax from the blind eternities
Instants:
4 Condescend
1 Spell burst
3 Repeal
1 Cyclonic Rift
4 Remand
3 Spatial contortion
1 Supreme Will
4 Thirst for knowledge
4 Urza's tower
4 Urza's mine
4 Urza's power-plant
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Buried Ruin
1 Academy Ruins
8 Islands
1 Pithing needle
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Negate
2 Spreading seas
2 Summary dismissal
1 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Orbs of Warding
1 Elder deep-fiend
Here are my most recent results:
Round 1
Naya (Dragons?)
Game 1 he gets a Dromoka into play and I concede, game 2 I have no idea what I'm up against so I just side in the orbs. After about 20 mins of me stalling with platinum angel I get mindslaver for the win. Game 3 we had about 5 mins on the clock, I was very close to winning but we ended up going to time
Current record: 0-0-1
Round 2
Bogles
I get crushed Game 1 and 2 by a T3-4 kill.
Current record: 0-1-1
Round 3
BW Aristocrats/tokens/midrange?
Game 1 goes kinda long as I try to slow down whatever he was trying to do as much as possible, but I end up conceding after not being able to land a threat. Game 2 I miss a land then lose to an atheros and an army of zulaport cutthroat, spirits, blood artist, etc.
Current record: 0-2-1
Round 4
Jund
Game 1 I lose to a goyf after tapping out t3 for coax. Game 2 I bring in 2 relic 1 needle 1 orbs, I land a t1 relic and end up grinding him out till I landed a wurmcoil and elder deep-fiend, and was able to beat him. Game 3 I get turn 1 relic again, turn 2 we both miss a land but I pithing needle naming lili of the veil. I land a wurmcoil and he concedes soon after. I asked this guy after the match, and he said he was only running lili for hand-hate which definitely improved this MU for me a lot.
Record: 1-2-1
I made A LOT of misplays and really screwed up on sbing in every MU except jund. I was trying a couple new things though and I think that the coax wishboard was AMAZING. I'm considering adding more TKS or an endbringer to the sb, thoughts on that?
Any recommendations on how I could change my list?