Rereading has told me my vote on Shadow is awful. In context I like the quotes RE pulled out, but I see nothing that really makes me feel one way or the other...
Unvote
Will try to form a productive wagon after modern tonight.
Yeah, that's actually how I felt about it too, but I wanted to do something slightly productive. So I thought it was a little weird that you voted right after me. So this may be an early town tell from you, taking back your vote. Maybe...
I don't like this vote. Seems like an early bandwagon disguised as thought. I town read Sinichi early, well pretty close to that, I didn't see anything outwardly scummy. I'm just not feeling the sincerity.
UNVTOTE, VOTE: RE1031
Grapefruit admitted that he always scum reads Shinichi. I'm saying that Shinichi is not often town read. Shinichi can probably confirm that I in the past have scum read him and lynched him as town while at it. I've seen plenty of people struggle to read Shinichi. So I am suspicious of what led kpaca to say that Shinichi was a town read, even if it was soft.
What you're saying right now about how you feel about Shinichi is he's neutral. Someone who does nothing outwardly scummy nor outwardly townie (I'm assuming here) is neutral.
And I honestly haven't been keeping track of votes, I thought at least one person removed their votes from kpaca.
Olny thing that really strikes me as odd is the fact that he's vote kpaca for a reference he doesnt even know about so it cant even be applied to him. I speficially don't like her most recent post except the middle quote that was fine but the rest are just fluff and playful games it seems.
What reference?
You voted him due to the fact that he town read me when no ones suppose to do that, like he suppose to get that reference lol. How can you scum read him for not being accustomed to a different websites meta.
Yeah, sorry, I should clarify. I mean to say that you're typically not town read by many people. At least from my experience. So in addition to there being no reasoning behind that read, it's a read that I would not expect anyone to give in the beginning of the game. kpaca's read on you when you were getting some heat feels almost like an attempt to pocket you, or at least gain some kind of credit should you flip town. This theory does assume you are town, but it stems from something more concrete, like a read out of nowhere.
Olny thing that really strikes me as odd is the fact that he's vote kpaca for a reference he doesnt even know about so it cant even be applied to him. I speficially don't like her most recent post except the middle quote that was fine but the rest are just fluff and playful games it seems.
That's something i took note off to, ive seen it happen in plenty of my games. If anything it gives me a slight scum read of shadow a very small one at that tho, because asking questions to push the thread is not something scum would necessarily would do, but the would do it to try to create fasle accusations.
Yes, it's something that weirds me out. Will be watching for more of those...
No unless he uses myanimelist then yes its possible.
I see, alright. vote: kpaca
Nobody townreads Shinichi that early. Nobody townreads Shinichi unless they've played with him before. Even if they've played with him before, they don't townread him. It doesn't matter much to me atm if Shinichi is town or scum, only that that's a read I can't buy. To top it off, I don't think I've read any justification behind the read. Yes, I'm sheeping a bit.
Re, could you tell me where you are with kpaca, QH, and Shinichi? Anything that sticks out to you?
QH I like so far. When mini spats happen, I find myself rooting for him. Which could be a very bad thing.
kpaca came off to me as scummy, but it could just be their style.
Shinichi seems different, but that could be the effect of a new website. At the moment it's a tonal change, nothing concrete.
@shadowlancerx I can sorta see that. Usually when I try to find someone's reasoning behind a read, I straightforward ask for it, so maybe I'm unaccustomed to seeing it in a different form.
1.Asking for someones scum game is something i see alot, so normally shouldnt mean much.
2.Grapefruit asks for specific games alot
3.For me meta prob wont help me find scum since everyone here is new to me except 4 people
Why didn't you even ask what he liked about it in the first place?
@shadowlancerx I pretty much had a rough idea of why he liked it so the question wasnt needed.
So you knew that he liked it because of the suspicion of kpaca, rather than him looking at a previous game in general? That's not what is reflected by your response to him.
I honestly don't get the point of these questions other than to make the other person look scummy. Maybe they're onto something with Shinichi, but I'd feel better about it if they were actual accusations instead of fishing for things that seem irrelevant to me.
Turning it around what did you dislike about Shadow's posts? Just that exchange? And if so which part in particular.
Their questions are accusations. There's no searching behind them, not for motive or clarity. They're about making someone look scummy but by putting it in the form of a question, it comes off not as an unwarranted accusation but gentle shade thrown in someone else's direction.
Maybe they're attempts to get a better feel of the other player, but that's what stands out to me most right now.
Why didn't you even ask what he liked about it in the first place?
Didn't he indirectly question him about that anyway? He talks about how he doesn't see a reason to like it. That's pretty much the same as saying 'wait, why are you linking it?'
So why go out of your way to call it soft if every read is soft?
What's with your pragmatics-based questions o.o
I don't like this follow up question to shadow. Isn't taking an extra step to try to see Shadow's motivation and figure out what it means. Scum+
On the contrary, I think shadowlancerx's questions fit this suggestion. They aren't actually questioning Quickhoodies' motives, or Shinichi's motives, but rather accusing them of having done something wrong.
@Shinichi besides us and Grapefruit, who else is from MAL? Is there anyone?
Yeah, that's actually how I felt about it too, but I wanted to do something slightly productive. So I thought it was a little weird that you voted right after me. So this may be an early town tell from you, taking back your vote. Maybe...
Grapefruit admitted that he always scum reads Shinichi. I'm saying that Shinichi is not often town read. Shinichi can probably confirm that I in the past have scum read him and lynched him as town while at it. I've seen plenty of people struggle to read Shinichi. So I am suspicious of what led kpaca to say that Shinichi was a town read, even if it was soft.
What you're saying right now about how you feel about Shinichi is he's neutral. Someone who does nothing outwardly scummy nor outwardly townie (I'm assuming here) is neutral.
And I honestly haven't been keeping track of votes, I thought at least one person removed their votes from kpaca.
Yeah, sorry, I should clarify. I mean to say that you're typically not town read by many people. At least from my experience. So in addition to there being no reasoning behind that read, it's a read that I would not expect anyone to give in the beginning of the game. kpaca's read on you when you were getting some heat feels almost like an attempt to pocket you, or at least gain some kind of credit should you flip town. This theory does assume you are town, but it stems from something more concrete, like a read out of nowhere.
What reference?
Arg, I should have done the same... Although the Nozomi avatar may have been a dead giveaway.
Yes, it's something that weirds me out. Will be watching for more of those...
I see, alright.
vote: kpaca
Nobody townreads Shinichi that early. Nobody townreads Shinichi unless they've played with him before. Even if they've played with him before, they don't townread him. It doesn't matter much to me atm if Shinichi is town or scum, only that that's a read I can't buy. To top it off, I don't think I've read any justification behind the read. Yes, I'm sheeping a bit.
QH I like so far. When mini spats happen, I find myself rooting for him. Which could be a very bad thing.
kpaca came off to me as scummy, but it could just be their style.
Shinichi seems different, but that could be the effect of a new website. At the moment it's a tonal change, nothing concrete.
@shadowlancerx I can sorta see that. Usually when I try to find someone's reasoning behind a read, I straightforward ask for it, so maybe I'm unaccustomed to seeing it in a different form.
Their questions are accusations. There's no searching behind them, not for motive or clarity. They're about making someone look scummy but by putting it in the form of a question, it comes off not as an unwarranted accusation but gentle shade thrown in someone else's direction.
Maybe they're attempts to get a better feel of the other player, but that's what stands out to me most right now.
vote: shadowlancerx
On the contrary, I think shadowlancerx's questions fit this suggestion. They aren't actually questioning Quickhoodies' motives, or Shinichi's motives, but rather accusing them of having done something wrong.
@Shinichi besides us and Grapefruit, who else is from MAL? Is there anyone?
Also, I've been meaning to ask:
I am not smol enough? What does this mean.
I blame gravatar for giving me the same pic as another website. By the time I realized, it was too late to change it...
Because my head hurts enough already.
Am I doing this right? I'm scared.