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Magic Market Index for May 18th, 2018
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    If Jace's price falls, it will be because Teferi becomes a much cheaper, arguably more effective substitute. When Jace had a monopoly as the best PW to run in a blue-based deck you had no choice but to pay for a card that had an additional premium due to its status and history. If enough people say "well Teferi is just better" in their UW and jeskai decks, those Jace prices will fall as the sellers realize there is another option.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    I would actually be curious to see SFM turn a BW or UW eldrazi deck into a force. Most people think of hatebears or abzan midrange, even UW control in terms of what would be bolstered...anyways.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    Quote from idSurge »
    Fair Enough but the core didn't seem to be doing much of note before Jace got off the ban list and Teferi arrived fresh out of Dominaria.

    I think what makes the difference is Teferi synergies quite well with said core by untapping two lands.


    The core of UWR has not changed since Search really. You are right that Jace didnt do much, but the list is nearly the same as it was pre-Jace, its just powered up by Teferi.

    The Untap 2 is huge, people still downplay his impact.


    I am not sure it is being downplayed anywhere at this point. Still, this is a format where broken synergies happen, and now control has found a broken synergy option of sorts. It will be interesting to see if this continues or if the control players collectively throw up their hands in surrender again if some more tron and valakut decks arrive in response.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Does anyone else feel "lost" in Modern?
    Maybe you just aren't playing the right decks, as others have said. I was on blue tron, grixis delver, and storm over the past couple years as I started to play modern. I like playing blue decks, but nothing was really clicking. I put together burn six weeks ago and just wrapped up my first ever 4-0 night. It is just one big algebra problem, and I am shocked at how much fun I am having.

    Proxy up a couple different decks and test with friends. You may be shocked to find that despite you thinking you know a preferred style that you might want to start running Affinity out of nowhere and everything just clicks.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Burn
    Burn just led me to my first ever 4-0 at a weekly modern event. It does help when I play against two lantern control decks back to back, but yeah I am feeling really good right now. $45 store credit let me pick up a couple of bloodstained mire, so now I have seven fetchlands to work with.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Most toxic thing you done as a player
    Quote from Yertarino »
    Quote from BlueTronFTW »
    Quote from Yertarino »
    I try to be sociable, outgoing and friendly but I am very competitive and sometimes it gets the best of me, especially at more relevant events like GPs, RPTQs, SCGs, Nationals etc. The sarcastic remarks, when my opponent topdecks after I made the right lines and probability was in my favor, getting flooded/screwed the "good job" or "you did it" remarks sometimes slip out, but I try to be conscious, I usually avoid being snarky with my opponents and just beat myself up over it later. Sometimes when I make a play mistake, I cant resist telling my opponent how I could have won and that I should have won, but that's just me being insecure and petty too...I try to curb these things and usually they don't come up. Also at my LGS when drafting, if I'm reading my signals right in pack 1 and I'm in x and y colors because theyre open and I'm passing the person to the left of me different colors that are open for them, but they just somehow force my colors...I lecture them sometimes, even if I 3-0, that still irks me.

    The other day at my LGS however, there was a Duel Commander tournament and I am close with a lot of people at the shop so we bust each other's balls pretty badly, crass jokes, mean insults, gamesmanship during matches to say the least, laughing at each other etc. There was a new player and game 1 he went basic swamp, basic plains, turn 3 blood moon in an extremely color intensive Marchesa deck playing WW, RR and BB 3 and 4 drops that could never feasibly support a blood moon consistently. I was somewhat kidding and didn't much care about the outcome of the match but I said "I'm getting ****ed by your bad Mana base" as I had all nonbasics in play. Other remarks and me being cocky as a bit of a shtick, fast forward three games I end up winning and the guy apparently was so upset he never wants to come back to the LGS, I felt and feel pretty bad about it. I wish he would have said something, but I understand why he didn't. I just couldn't have imagined someone would have taken my remarks so seriously, but that's ignorance on my behalf.


    I'm still amazed at people who refuse to play at an LGS because of a salty player. I once got dressed down by an LGS employee for winning with a standard control deck a couple years ago because I literally just had generic walls in my sideboard to stop fast aggro. I wasn't offended at any point. I wasn't scared, I didn't feel like I was in an unsafe space. Was he being a jerk? Absolutely (and he did end up being fired for repeating this behavior, but far as I was made aware it was less about complaints and more about bad PR). But unless someone is threatening me, and I mean actual threats where someone's trying to fight me in the parking lot I will gladly come back and play again and again.

    People need to learn to deal with conflict in a healthy way. Yeah, you were an ass, but avoiding conflict is just as bad as getting too angry in the fact of it. If that guy was so upset, it was HIS responsibility to say "hey, that's not cool, man" or something to that effect. Nowadays everyone just runs from conflict, or they want some authority figure to intervene and crush the other person. It is genuinely sad.


    I agree with this to a reasonable extent. The guy was 20 years old (I'm 24) and laughed along with my remarks and acted like everything was cool, if he had said something I would have explained I was kidding, apologized and acted accordingly but he didn't give me that opportunity, he ran and told on me then dropped the hammer that he's never coming back because of me, on top of it. Leaving me with no real option but to feel like a piece of *****.

    I wasn't even salty for what it's worth, although the salty remark is hilarious...if someone calls you salty and you say nothing, you're salty! If they say they are not salty, they're super salty! If they agree they're salty, they are! I just again, enjoy gamesmanship, making remarks, talking to my opponents, calling plays, joking around, I honestly mean nothing by it and most people know that.

    Oh well, eh.


    Ah, see there's the trick. You do have a real option besides feeling bad - laugh at him for being a wuss.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    I think some of you are making this way too complicated. If WOTC says all cards printed in modern masters are legal in modern, then it doesn't matter if they are already in standard sets or not. It just adds a second way to introduce cards. I'd rather just see older reprints than brand new cards, personally, introduced in this manner.

    It does feel like some of you are trying to use einstein's theory of relativity to answer "what is 2+2?"
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Mothership update to Brawl - Banned list
    MTG - because five types of basic lands are easy to understand, but add a sixth and it all falls apart.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on MTG, the worst community?
    Maybe the problem is thinking that there SHOULD be an MTG community? I don't consider myself to be a part of a community.

    I've said this on other threads, but I play in a couple of highly competitive stores. Weekly modern gets its share of salt thrown around, but we are all adult enough to shrug it off because we can relate to luck of the draw, bad matchups etc. Nobody comes to blows, not even close. Someone says "damn if I'd only drawn X," most of us nod and go "yeah I hear ya," even the opponent says "damn tough break," and we all move on. Why? BECAUSE WE ARE ADULTS! We know that being down after a tough loss is not harassment, it isn't threatening, it isn't toxic. It is just a reaction that will not matter to anyone's life in five minutes. Get over it. Here's my take:

    1. Toxic is one of the most overused terms when talking about culture today. It is used too often to describe too large a spectrum.
    2. The problem with "communities" is that once you have more than a dozen people in a room it gets difficult to make sure everyone's preferences line up. Stores can have communities. The game as a whole can't, nor should it.
    3. Too many people are too sensitive, and they believe they have a right to never hear anything they don't like.

    I do like that WOTC tried to address this by stating that FNM was designed to be for casual players while the new standard showdown was aimed at the more competitive players. It is a step in the right direction. Tiers need to be established at WPN stores. I don't go to game days. I don't want super casual players at PPTQs. So on and so forth.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    Quote from genini2 »
    Quote from gkourou »
    Quote from BlueTronFTW »
    Quote from tronix »
    the issue with adding ancillary products to the modern card pool is that it would be completely arbitrary and therefore counter intuitive for modern players.

    its not impossible, and its not that huge of a hurdle to overcome; but it would still require them to create a product line that is entirely separate from commander precons, special draft sets like conspiracy, and the masters sets. then make it abundantly clear that only that one product applies, and none of the others do.

    the other route would be to eschew a new product all together and just announce that X,Y,and Z cards are now legal in modern for no other reason than they said so; which is also very messy.


    It already exists - its called modern masters. There is logistically no reason WOTC couldn't say "hey we are making modern masters 2019, it will contain a cycle of cards that have not been printed in a standard-legal set. These cards will not only be legal for modern masters 2019 limited formats, but the modern constructed format, as well."

    Tada.


    This gets also messy and counter-intuitive. Why MM1,2,3 are not Modern legal but MM4 will be?


    Everything in MM1,2,3 are legal in modern.


    Lol yup. So you can make the ruling as such:

    All cards printed in a standard-legal set since 8th edition or printed in a modern masters set are legal in modern. Sure, the sentence just officially became longer, but it didn't become a paragraph. We're smart enough to sort that out.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    Quote from tronix »
    the issue with adding ancillary products to the modern card pool is that it would be completely arbitrary and therefore counter intuitive for modern players.

    its not impossible, and its not that huge of a hurdle to overcome; but it would still require them to create a product line that is entirely separate from commander precons, special draft sets like conspiracy, and the masters sets. then make it abundantly clear that only that one product applies, and none of the others do.

    the other route would be to eschew a new product all together and just announce that X,Y,and Z cards are now legal in modern for no other reason than they said so; which is also very messy.


    It already exists - its called modern masters. There is logistically no reason WOTC couldn't say "hey we are making modern masters 2019, it will contain a cycle of cards that have not been printed in a standard-legal set. These cards will not only be legal for modern masters 2019 limited formats, but the modern constructed format, as well."

    Tada.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Most toxic thing you done as a player
    Quote from Yertarino »
    I try to be sociable, outgoing and friendly but I am very competitive and sometimes it gets the best of me, especially at more relevant events like GPs, RPTQs, SCGs, Nationals etc. The sarcastic remarks, when my opponent topdecks after I made the right lines and probability was in my favor, getting flooded/screwed the "good job" or "you did it" remarks sometimes slip out, but I try to be conscious, I usually avoid being snarky with my opponents and just beat myself up over it later. Sometimes when I make a play mistake, I cant resist telling my opponent how I could have won and that I should have won, but that's just me being insecure and petty too...I try to curb these things and usually they don't come up. Also at my LGS when drafting, if I'm reading my signals right in pack 1 and I'm in x and y colors because theyre open and I'm passing the person to the left of me different colors that are open for them, but they just somehow force my colors...I lecture them sometimes, even if I 3-0, that still irks me.

    The other day at my LGS however, there was a Duel Commander tournament and I am close with a lot of people at the shop so we bust each other's balls pretty badly, crass jokes, mean insults, gamesmanship during matches to say the least, laughing at each other etc. There was a new player and game 1 he went basic swamp, basic plains, turn 3 blood moon in an extremely color intensive Marchesa deck playing WW, RR and BB 3 and 4 drops that could never feasibly support a blood moon consistently. I was somewhat kidding and didn't much care about the outcome of the match but I said "I'm getting ****ed by your bad Mana base" as I had all nonbasics in play. Other remarks and me being cocky as a bit of a shtick, fast forward three games I end up winning and the guy apparently was so upset he never wants to come back to the LGS, I felt and feel pretty bad about it. I wish he would have said something, but I understand why he didn't. I just couldn't have imagined someone would have taken my remarks so seriously, but that's ignorance on my behalf.


    I'm still amazed at people who refuse to play at an LGS because of a salty player. I once got dressed down by an LGS employee for winning with a standard control deck a couple years ago because I literally just had generic walls in my sideboard to stop fast aggro. I wasn't offended at any point. I wasn't scared, I didn't feel like I was in an unsafe space. Was he being a jerk? Absolutely (and he did end up being fired for repeating this behavior, but far as I was made aware it was less about complaints and more about bad PR). But unless someone is threatening me, and I mean actual threats where someone's trying to fight me in the parking lot I will gladly come back and play again and again.

    People need to learn to deal with conflict in a healthy way. Yeah, you were an ass, but avoiding conflict is just as bad as getting too angry in the fact of it. If that guy was so upset, it was HIS responsibility to say "hey, that's not cool, man" or something to that effect. Nowadays everyone just runs from conflict, or they want some authority figure to intervene and crush the other person. It is genuinely sad.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Burn
    Quote from yorugua »
    I have a question on gameplay. I was playing against Merfolk, I won game 1 and on game 2 it goes:

    Turn 1: Island, Vial; Vantage Goblin Guide
    Turn 2: Island Chalice on 1; Fetchland

    I have 2 Revelry in hand and a couple of 1 drops. You always take down the chalice first, right? (that is what I did btw)

    Thanks


    Depends on the rest of my hand. If chalice is shutting down most of my cards, I'm blowing up chalice first. hell depending on how the game develops I may even just hold the drev an extra turn or two in case they play a second chalice. If I have more two mana stuff like an eidolon and a couple of searing blazes I'd lean towards vial. Blowing up vial on one when they probably boarded out 1-drop spells in favor of chalice sets them back tremendously, you get in more goblin guide damage before they put blockers out, and your higher-cost spells can finish the job. The only fear is them either countering my drev attempt next turn or playing a second chalice on 1.

    I can't argue against your play, but I'd be careful about creating "always" situations.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    And if Alpha Investment's Rudy is right, the plan for WOTC is to release additional print runs slowly despite the overwhelming demand. I can't see any reason for that besides maintaining singles prices...damn.

    My stance on pricing has always been such: I will not spend more than $30 on a card. That simple. Beyond that and I just cannot justify the purchase even when I have the funds for it. That limits me in modern, and I realize that. Standard, however, as the "entry" to constructed play just creates this vicious loop of buying $40-60 cards, then rotation hits, except most of those cards aren't good enough to see play beyond standard, so you either sell a month before rotation and not play to rebound somewhat, or just let them sit in a folder. Karn is the exception, not the rule.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    "We need blue control to be better!"
    "How?!"
    "Unban a red enchantment that allows an infinite combo!"
    "What will that do?!"
    "Make the format more fair!"
    Posted in: Modern
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