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Treasure Cruisin' Modern Big Red
  • posted a message on The [Un]Official "Buy or Sell?" Thread!
    Buy Fatal Push or wait? They're dropping right now and I think about getting into Modern, so I could use a playset. But I don't really know if they will drop further or hit their low soon. Also, FNM promo or regular set version? The set foil is more expensive, but the other two seem to be around the same price.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on What to purchase right now
    I think I have found a good solution and want to update you guys. My idea is that I upgrade my Mathas deck, but just slightly, and rebuild my Ezuri precon (after taking down Mimeoplasm, every card should be available). I'll try and play some games with that one, and for each player that leaves the game before me, I'll get a point, bonus point if I eliminate that player myself. After some time, I'll upgrade the deck with 50ct worth of cards per point collected, then repeat. What do you guys think?
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on What to purchase right now
    Thanks for all your opinions. ISBPathfinder, your method of evaluating seems good, but I can see two problems for me. First, if I purchase the precons, I could build a decent casual elf ball deck. I'm certainly interested in that one and if I built it from scratch, I'd need most of the cards anyway, but it's not as high on my list as some other decks, so should I count it? The second problem revolves around cards like Chromatic Lantern: I would probably not buy it as a single because of its price tag and buy other cards instead, however, if I bought the precons and thus got one, I'd smash it in almost every 4+ color deck I'll ever build. Does it count?
    As for the other suggestions, if I buy the precons, I'll probably leave them unchanged for a good amount of time. I don't know, there are too many fun and unique commanders for my wallet to handle ^^
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on What to purchase right now
    Quote from ISBPathfinder »
    Precons - honestly, I would almost never buy a precon because it has generally good cards unless there are valuable cards that make up most of the cost of the precon that you would be buying anyways. The other exception being if you intend to play one of the precon commanders as your commander at which point there are probably several pickups in the deck you would play anyways.

    My advice if you don't have a big collection is to buy what you need to play the decks you want to play. Don't worry about investment buying. I have a very big collection and I do some amount of investment buying from the standpoint that when good cards become cheap I buy them but shy of that I rarely need to buy much other than a few new cards when a new set comes out.

    Well, Yidris, Vial Smasher and Ezuri all interest me (and there are quite a few cards in the precons to go with them), but so do Phelddagrif, Tasigur, Nekusar, Rhys the Redemeed, Edric, Chainer, Ghave and countless others. It's kind of the thrill of the format for me that there are so many different playstyles, cards and strategies that are totally viable with the right playgroup. The only thing I'm steering away from is plain old goodstuff decks, but maybe I'll even try one of them some day.
    The problem with Phelddagrif for example is that I like the political playstyle a lot and am interested in DirkGently's budget list. However, not only do I already have a political deck with Mathas, but I like getting out there and doing something more than holding back, only countering a spell or removing a creature sometimes. That's why control has never been part of my repertoire as of today. I just don't want to spend money on a deck that I take apart after only one or two games when I can spend that money on cards I play with for a few months, maybe even a year.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on What to purchase right now
    Hey guys,

    I really want to play more Magic again (as the saying goes, you don't quit, you just stop playing for a while) and after building a new deck two months ago and playing with it a bit, I want to have more selection again. I'm really tired of my old decks (I already took my Mimeoplasm Infect apart and don't really feel like playing Atarka at the moment, it's not really well built and meant as a deck for friends anyway) and don't want to play the same deck every time. I have the following options now:
    I could just build a deck from scratch or adapt a deck I find online. The pros would be that I can choose the commander and the cards freely, but I often end up purchasing cards that are deck specific. Also, I have a ton of ideas, but I don't quite know if they'll work for me. Mathas, for example, works really well, but Mimeoplasm didn't.
    I could also purchase two precons (Entropic Uprising and Guided by Nature) from a friend that doesn't play anymore for 70€. The only cards missing are a few I don't really care about and they've been replaced by other quite good cards as well. I don't have quite the freedom in deck building, but I could always play around with the cards in my collection and upgrade the decks later. Plus, I would be able to get quite a few staples (especially from Yidris) that I don't own yet.
    The last option would be to simply upgrade my Mathas deck, maybe improving the mana base a bit and splashing out for a few cards I couldn't include due to budget reasons yet, like No Mercy.

    What do you think would be the most reasonable option, both in the short and in the long term?
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Gazing into the darkness of the human psyche with Phelddagrif
    So... I really like this deck (I already own a Mathas,Fiend Seeker deck which is kind of political, I guess) and I really want to build something like it. However, my budget is pretty small, I would say around $100. Which cards would you consider to be the most crucial ones in this deck and can you recommend any budget alternatives to the other ones? I can work out the mana base myself, my area isn't too competitive so tap lands etc. are not that much of a problem, however I need help figuring out the rest of the deck Smile
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on B/G Chromantiflayer

    Hey guys, this is my take on Chromantiflayer. I need suggestions for the main deck as well as for the sideboard (I'm not that good at sideboard building yet). The main strategy should be simple: Get a bunch of keyword creatures in the graveyard, then use Soulflayer to get all those keywords combined on one creature. At that point, either outvalue your opponent with a hard-hitting flyer, or use Tainted Strike to instantly kill your opponent, provided you got haste and double strike and they can't block or kill your creature.
    I passed on the usual red splash for Faithless Looting and others because of budget issues, the mana base becomes too flimsy if I only play pain lands and basic lands, ally color pains are also relatively expensive.
    Posted in: Budget (Modern)
  • posted a message on The deck challenge - should I do it?
    Quote from rob_zed »
    If you dont mind playing online; things like Xmage are free. You can test out a bunch of modern decks, settle on the exact one you like, and then fork out the cash when you want to hit a tournament.

    Its sounds like fun, only thing is that in my experience cracking packs is cash loss. You'll end up paying more for your deck in the end, but it could be a fun experiment
    I prefer playing in person to playing online, but thank you for the suggestion, I didn't know the program yet. I don't know if I misinterpret your second statement, but I don't plan on constantly cracking packs and adding them to my deck; I rather want to open one pack only and keep trading the contents of that pack to get better cards. Otherwise it would be way too expensive.
    Try the 8 whack goblin deck.
    $75-ish all day
    Thank you for your suggestion, but if I wind up playing a budget deck instead, it will probably be Stompy.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The deck challenge - should I do it?
    Hey guys,

    as some of you may know from another thread I made, I want to get back in Magic. The only thing holding me back is a limited budget. I originally considered Pauper as my format of choice, however other hobbies are keeping me from visiting the Pauper tournament at my LGS. I've now pretty much settled on Modern, but as I mentioned, I don't have a large budget so just buying the necessary parts of a Tier 1/2 deck is out of the question.
    Back when I was playing, I really wanted to do something like "Pack to Power", maybe a little toned down. Someone then recommended that I could first trade my way up to a fetch, then to a play set of fetches and finally to a full deck, probably something without Tarmogoyfs and friends, but fairly competitive. I thought about just using that idea, but even the process of getting to a fetch would be a pretty long one and I want to actually play MtG, not just wait for someone who wants some random commons.
    That's when an interesting idea hit me: I will buy an event deck of my choice and a booster pack from a Modern-legal set, maybe even the same set as the event deck. I'll try to upgrade the deck by trading/using the contents of the booster. Everything I take out of the deck will also find a home in the binder. That way, I can go on a trade quest to build a deck while also playing with an ever-improving deck. My current choice would be Strength of Selesnya from Dragon's Maze, because even if I get bored of the deck or the whole quest midway through, I can just use/sell the Godless Shrine and Parallel Lives to minimize my loss. Plus, it's one of the only decks containing good cards that's not terribly overpriced.

    What do you think of my idea? Is it worth to try and can I even have fun with the deck? Do you have any recommendations? Should I just jump into local Modern tournaments and get the floor wiped with me, or should I restrict myself to only playing casual matches until my deck is actually usable?
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Which format to get into?
    Yeah, that last point is a good one. It's not like everyone in my area is hyper competitive, but there are some problems.
    There was a casual EDH crowd back when I started playing the format, and I really enjoyed those games. But sadly, when WotC changed the FNM promos to foil tokens, my store felt the need to "upgrade" the price pool of the EDH tournament with some store credit. In exchange, there was now an entry budget. I couldn't go to FNM for two weeks due to personal reasons, but when I came back, not only did the attendance drop dramatically, but instead of some janky tribal or casual reanimator brew, my table consisted of two fast combo decks and Teferi. From what I heard from other tables, things were the same there as well. Needless to say, my budget dragon tribal wasn't much of a contendor. I really hope that with the upcoming revert to "real" promos, my store removes the entry fee and the store credit. But as it stands, I don't know if there are any casual EDH players left, let alone enough to get some tables together.
    On the other hand, there are numerous players (from what I recall) that don't participate in the tournaments. I don't know if they are casual (I would assume so), but even if they are, that's where my personality kicks in. I'm really introverted and shy (and I do differenciate between the two here) and thus I'm not the guy to go up to a group and talk to them as they are total strangers to me. If I ever wound up watching a game next to me, I felt kind of like a creep and stopped after a short time.

    But after all, I think that's my best bet. My current plan is to jam together a casual homebrew (I always wanted to do Saproling tribal) and ask some of the more casual oriented guys for a game. Since the whole idea of Pack to Power is also slowly creeping back into my head, I thought I could do a "Pack to Modern collection" thing as a side quest, maybe it will be worth the while.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Which format to get into?
    Sadly, the Commander games at my LGS don't offer rules like that, they play with the official ban list only. On the other hand, I just looked up the tournament schedule of my LGS (they changed it a bit) and it seems like Pauper is out of the question, as the Pauper tournament is at the same time as another one of my hobbies I don't want to quit.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Which format to get into?
    I don't really have to win any big tournaments (not that much of a Spike), I just want to get a deck for my money that can win a few games at FNM while also being fun to play. That's why I quit Commander back then, the games were too oppressive for me while I had no chance to win.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Which format to get into?
    Hey guys,

    I'm interested in returning to Magic after leaving about half a year ago. The only thing hindering me is that I don't know which format I should play. Basically, these are my thoughts on the most popular ones:
    -Standard: Should be the easiest to get into, but I'm not really keen on playing a rotating format (as I would like to keep my cards relevant for a good amount of time).
    -Modern: My favorite so far, but because of the multitude of decks, I don't know if it would be a good fit since there are so many things to keep in mind when deciding on what to play. (On a side note, I found this deck. Would the ultra-budget version be a good starting point?)
    -Legacy/Vintage: Out of the question, my budget isn't nearly good enough to build good decks.
    -Commander: Sadly, the local Commander community is really competitive, and the T3 infinite combos were the deciding factor in making me quit Magic back then, as I really enjoyed the game itself, but not the experience.
    -Pauper: Also worth a try and affordable, but it doesn't feel quite right for some reason. But it's also one of the top contenders. [Edit: Because of other hobbies, I can't play in the Pauper tournaments at my LGS. It therefore isn't considered anymore.]
    -Draft: Probably too luck dependent for my liking (I might be wrong here, as I haven't played much draft).

    What format can you recommend (keep in mind that my budget isn't that big, I will likely have to work in the $50-100 range)?
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on How do I get a new commander playgroup?
    Thank for your feedback. I try to answer every point; if I missed something just let me know. First, I know that ABUR duals or expensive cards in general don't lead to cEDH power on their own. But the decks I remember were Ancestral Statue Animar combo (I played a few 1v1 games with that guy afterwards, he crushed me and switched to a less powerful deck shortly after), Teferi Stax and some kind of combo deck with Thrasios and some other partner commander (I think either Tymna or Ravos, but I'm not sure). I think it's safe to say that those are fairly competitive decks.
    There are other LGS which I potentially could reach. I've been to none of them so far, so I can't say much about them (I used the store locator before). Because I have to travel by train, I'm also limited in the routes I can travel. My previous LGS was about half an hour by train and another ten minutes walking distance from the station, while every other LGS I could reasonably get to is at least one hour of traveling away. Since I already attend college/university by train, I don't really want to travel that much in the evening too. That's why I don't think there is an LGS I can attend on a regular basis.
    Going down to Precons sounds fun for a few nights, but I really like the aspect of deckbuilding. I don't think just playing with precons I'm not allowed to edit would do me any favor. I'm rather looking for a "static" group that may add cards to the house rule banlist if they are too oppressive or fast.
    I've searched a little bit for sites to find another playgroup, but the only relevant thing that comes up is the website of my LGS.

    Maybe that information is answering your questions/recommendations, I'm looking forward to hear more.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on How do I get a new commander playgroup?
    It's not that I don't have fun playing commander, I love casual games and don't mind them dragging on and on as long as there is a fun, friendly atmosphere. But in cEDH no one is playing just for fun (at least from my point of view), everyone is just looking to combo off or to slow the game down, then play another game or quit it for the night. Sure, there may be a funny situation or some table talk (the other day we were joking about how the Teferi player was playing Superfriends when he had Teferi, Jace, Karn and Ugin out at the same time, he finished the game quickly after that), but it's not as relaxed as the rounds I've played before were.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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