Hello all,
I've been working on and brewing a EDH superfriends deck. (Mind you this is just theory building, I haven't bought the cards yet.) After building it for some time and looking at it I see it's gonna be about $300-400. I expected this with a superfriends deck.
Though the more I thought about this deck the more I thought, is this actually worth it? I couldn't flat out buy the cards all at once, instead I would chip away at it little by little over the course of several months.
Now here are my thoughts:
1) Im worried that if I build it the following might happen.
A) It might be a bad deck.
B) It might be too good and either I will get targeted every game or I will dominate the board.
I dont want either of those. I just want to play it as my other decks. Meaning a win some, a lose some, I get targeted some, I get left alone some.
2) If it is bad/too good, I just wasted my time and money.
What do you guys think? Should I even do this? I really want to. It sounds amazing, and I love planewalkers, but I dont want to waste my time and money.
Thank you all for your replies! There was a lot of interesting topics brought up. I'll try to respond in a more blanket statement, since most responses were quite long.
I feel like I didn't give enough information or I came off wrong. I do understand there is a competitive aspect to EDH. Whether that be at a personal group, or your Local Game Store. In those settings I understand, you're there to win. I've played standard for years and I understand wanting to win.
What I'm trying to focus on is the 'at home' EDH.
Also, I misspoke with "in the spirit of EDH". I apologize for that. Again, I'm meaning more of a.. casual EDH setting. While some groups all have competitive decks I would think that the format itself is not inherently competitive; but I suppose the casual or competitive meta is what each group makes it.
So let me rephrase. In a casual setting, non-tournament/non-competitive, why do some players feel the need to play some T3/T4 win decks? Look at my example:
There are 4 players. Everyone breaks out their decks, and begins to set up. A few turns go by and Player 1 decides he's gonna play something [insert turn 4 win combo here]. Player 1 wins. This continues for 2 more games.
Now, let's not think of what will happen after or the fact of a) He probably needs another play group and b) The rest of the group doesnt want to play with him anymore.
I want to try and understand.. Why does that player like that? Just smashing and winning early.
Ive heard it countless times. So many people bragging about how much their deck is hated or how good it is becuase they can win easily. I don't understand why that would bring you joy. Maybe it's just a "you dont need to understand, they just do" type of thing. I would really like to know though. No hate, no salt, I simply just am curious.
*I'M NOT TRYING TO TRIGGER ANYONE*
This is just a discussion with queries.
Ok, now..
This may sound stupid but are people just trying to win in EDH? Let me explain; I see some many people both in real life and online who are building these expensive cheesey decks that win EDH games around turn 3 or 4, or even play things like Armageddon/Orbs. Heavy, heavy control that basically doesn't allow your opponent to play unless they have answers as they are cast.
Is this fun for some? I suppose some may get enjoyment out of these types of decks, but I think they'll be hard pressed to find a consistent play group.
Now, this is where some people come in and comment things like: "They are cards that are meant to be played.", "Stop crying.", or "If X happens to you, and you didnt play Y, then it's your fault."
Where is the spirit of EDH? It's not a tournament, it's casual. I don't understand the logic behind just playing cheese. I would love to hear from someone who plays things like this, and why they do it.
Thats the thing honestly. He doesn't play almost any other banned card, and rarely does he play that one. I don't want to go to the lengths of proxying a banned deck (as funny as that'd be) just to prove a point. He isn't an ******** or anything, he's actually a nice guy. Like I said, it's the logic that irks me.
I'm just glad to know my logic is somewhat sound. It just made absolutely no sense to me that because it's casual banned cards don't apply.
Hey all,
I have a question about EDH banned cards. My friend runs Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. I've discussed with him about it being a banned card in EDH, implying that I don't want him to use it. His reply was along the lines of "Bans are for tournaments.", "This is casual.", and "why are you 'crying' about it?"
I don't want to make it a huge deal, but I feel like this is the completely wrong view for EDH. To my knowledge, I don't think there are many, if any WotC Commander tournaments. I thought the whole format was a 'casual' format and the bans/rulings were made from a seperate head of people from WotC. Is he right though? Do bans actually not matter for EDH?
He doesn't use the card much but it's the logic that irks me. It's like saying, "I have no maxiumum hand size, infinite mana and I use my deck as my hand because it's casual. Rules don't apply here."
I think I'll proxy first, feel out the power level and tweak it. Then buy the cards.
I've been working on and brewing a EDH superfriends deck. (Mind you this is just theory building, I haven't bought the cards yet.) After building it for some time and looking at it I see it's gonna be about $300-400. I expected this with a superfriends deck.
Though the more I thought about this deck the more I thought, is this actually worth it? I couldn't flat out buy the cards all at once, instead I would chip away at it little by little over the course of several months.
Now here are my thoughts:
1) Im worried that if I build it the following might happen.
A) It might be a bad deck.
B) It might be too good and either I will get targeted every game or I will dominate the board.
I dont want either of those. I just want to play it as my other decks. Meaning a win some, a lose some, I get targeted some, I get left alone some.
2) If it is bad/too good, I just wasted my time and money.
What do you guys think? Should I even do this? I really want to. It sounds amazing, and I love planewalkers, but I dont want to waste my time and money.
I feel like I didn't give enough information or I came off wrong. I do understand there is a competitive aspect to EDH. Whether that be at a personal group, or your Local Game Store. In those settings I understand, you're there to win. I've played standard for years and I understand wanting to win.
What I'm trying to focus on is the 'at home' EDH.
Also, I misspoke with "in the spirit of EDH". I apologize for that. Again, I'm meaning more of a.. casual EDH setting. While some groups all have competitive decks I would think that the format itself is not inherently competitive; but I suppose the casual or competitive meta is what each group makes it.
So let me rephrase. In a casual setting, non-tournament/non-competitive, why do some players feel the need to play some T3/T4 win decks? Look at my example:
There are 4 players. Everyone breaks out their decks, and begins to set up. A few turns go by and Player 1 decides he's gonna play something [insert turn 4 win combo here]. Player 1 wins. This continues for 2 more games.
Now, let's not think of what will happen after or the fact of a) He probably needs another play group and b) The rest of the group doesnt want to play with him anymore.
I want to try and understand.. Why does that player like that? Just smashing and winning early.
Ive heard it countless times. So many people bragging about how much their deck is hated or how good it is becuase they can win easily. I don't understand why that would bring you joy. Maybe it's just a "you dont need to understand, they just do" type of thing. I would really like to know though. No hate, no salt, I simply just am curious.
Before I continue, please..
*I'M NOT TRYING TO TRIGGER ANYONE*
This is just a discussion with queries.
Ok, now..
This may sound stupid but are people just trying to win in EDH? Let me explain; I see some many people both in real life and online who are building these expensive cheesey decks that win EDH games around turn 3 or 4, or even play things like Armageddon/Orbs. Heavy, heavy control that basically doesn't allow your opponent to play unless they have answers as they are cast.
Is this fun for some? I suppose some may get enjoyment out of these types of decks, but I think they'll be hard pressed to find a consistent play group.
Now, this is where some people come in and comment things like: "They are cards that are meant to be played.", "Stop crying.", or "If X happens to you, and you didnt play Y, then it's your fault."
Where is the spirit of EDH? It's not a tournament, it's casual. I don't understand the logic behind just playing cheese. I would love to hear from someone who plays things like this, and why they do it.
I need to understand.
I just thought if Wotc banned it for EDH, there is probably a reason they banned it.
I'm just glad to know my logic is somewhat sound. It just made absolutely no sense to me that because it's casual banned cards don't apply.
I have a question about EDH banned cards. My friend runs Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. I've discussed with him about it being a banned card in EDH, implying that I don't want him to use it. His reply was along the lines of "Bans are for tournaments.", "This is casual.", and "why are you 'crying' about it?"
I don't want to make it a huge deal, but I feel like this is the completely wrong view for EDH. To my knowledge, I don't think there are many, if any WotC Commander tournaments. I thought the whole format was a 'casual' format and the bans/rulings were made from a seperate head of people from WotC. Is he right though? Do bans actually not matter for EDH?
He doesn't use the card much but it's the logic that irks me. It's like saying, "I have no maxiumum hand size, infinite mana and I use my deck as my hand because it's casual. Rules don't apply here."