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May 15, 2019Fr0sty711 posted a message on Help with Massacre Girl MBC deck. What creatures to run?You been able to play test this deck yet? . Very interested in building this.. Just want to hear how what you have got so far preforms.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Apr 20, 2019Posted in: Multiplayer Commander DecklistsQuote from lyonhaert »
Auras can only enchant whatever permanent type they say (creature in this case), so as soon as Phenax ceases to be a creature (he's always an enchantment), the aura will detach and go to the graveyard as state-based actions.Phenax, God of Deception was on the battlefield and his devotion was above 7 so he was a creature.. I attached Pemmin's Aura to him.. Then at some point in the game phenax devotion dropped below 7 so he became an enchantment so what happens to Pemmin's Aura when that happens?
Thanks for the rapid quick reply... Dang you are fast.
Well we played everything right then.. But I was alittle unsure.. Because actually phenax lost creature ability and gained it back in the same turn so was unsure if pemmin left as soon as he lost creature ability but that's how we played it.
Thanks for clarification
Apr 20, 2019Had a crazy 3hr 20 min game today.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
I outlasted it all and won... Didn't mill my first card until 2hrs in LOL... And besides the one opponent I took out at like the 2 1/2 hr mark.. All graveyards were shuffled back into their libraries so I had to start from scratch on 2 opponents haha
Had a couple comments.
springleaf drum showed up and was a good help. So def will stay.
While altar of dementia did not show up this game thousand-year elixir was MVP this game..
Also fleet swallower helped me take out the best player in the game so I think it's staying in at the moment.
Had a player with Shalai, Voice of Plenty in play and so that means I can't mill him because phenax targets.. Is that correct.?
Luckily someone wiped him off the table.
But we had a weird interaction that I didn't know what to do.. So Phenax, God of Deception was on the battlefield and his devotion was above 7 so he was a creature.. I attached Pemmin's Aura to him.. Then at some point in the game phenax devotion dropped below 7 so he became an enchantment so what happens to Pemmin's Aura when that happens?
Thanks so much for this deck list I can't believe I've done so well with this deck.. But it really has so many ways to interact and win. I love it and I don't even have it maxed out like your deck list is.. My mana base is far inferior to yours.
Apr 20, 2019Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
So your not using phelddagrif as commander?? Interesting
Apr 19, 2019Fr0sty711 posted a message on [[Primer]] [PAUPER] Crushing Dreams on a Budget - Child of Alara (UPDATE 07-2018!)From the new war of spark set.Posted in: Variant Commander
Are any of these cards interesting to maybe add?
Gideon's sacrifice kinda like a spore frog sorta.. But direct all damage to COA and blow up the world.
Arboreal grazer for ramp?. Prob not as it doesn't search for a land.. Just helps you play COA earlier
kaya's ghostform doesn't help us does it? As it wouldn't allow COA to hit the graveyard right? If I'm wrong this might be a nice card to have?
Thoughts.. Any cards I didn't mention that you think would get a possible add?
Apr 14, 2019So let's say I have sunforger equipped to shu yun the silent tempestPosted in: Magic Rulings
I unequip sunforger to search my library for a card and cast it without paying it's mana cost.
Am I correct in thinking if I choose borrowed hostility I cast it for free to do 1 of the 2 options but still have the option to pay an extra 3colorless to do both options? Or am I not allowed to pay extra costs?
Would ajani's presence be any different?
Also if I found and cast emerge unscathed I can't use its REBOUND effect correct as I didn't cast it from my hand technically sunforger cast it for me?
Now if I find Wear // Tear can I destroy BOTH a artifact and Enchantment since these two cards are FUSED together? Or do I only get to do one or the other?
Thanks for the clarity on my 3 1/2 questions..
Apr 13, 2019Ok so I know creature cards with two colors on them like dimir doppelganger is both blue and black.Posted in: Magic Rulings
But does that apply to all cards.
So could my merchant scroll search my library and pull out a soul manipulation for me?
Or does the card have to be just blue and no other color?
Thanks for the clarification.
Apr 13, 2019Fr0sty711 posted a message on [[Primer]] [PAUPER] Crushing Dreams on a Budget - Child of Alara (UPDATE 07-2018!)Any reason you guys would see Tamiyo's Epiphany go into our decks? It's from war of spark. It's just another forsee but always nice to scry 4 and then draw..Posted in: Variant Commander
Any reason to repeat that in our decks?
Apr 12, 2019Fr0sty711 posted a message on [[Primer]] [PAUPER] Crushing Dreams on a Budget - Child of Alara (UPDATE 07-2018!)Posted in: Variant Commander
Storm is acceptable in the rules as it's printed on the card and isn't like some combo.. The eta the league defines combos is using multiple cards to achieve a combo.. While yes storm needs cards played before it to work its really just 1 card being used. .. So we are good to still use storm.
I am sure we will come across different mechanics that we will need to make a ruling on.. But all we are trying to do is limit the amount of comboing off to win as we have some decks in the play group that aren't fun to play with because of this reason.
Apr 10, 2019Posted in: Variant Commander
So above is my deck... I have a QUESTION for you CONTROL builds.
My EDH group just instituted a new policy which I am in favor of. We banned infinite combos in our decks and also we are doing a EDH league and we have a point system and you get a -1 point for playing the same card or having the same trigger happen 4+ times in the same turn... So for example I could Cloud of Faeries + (Ghostly Flicker) + (Izzet Chronarch + 2 bounce lands. This 4 times in the turn to bank 4 extra mana but couldn't do it anymore times or I'd lose points. So you can have infinite combos in the deck they just have to be ones that can be stopped and can't hapen more than 4 times in one turn so not sure it is worth it to havw in my deck anymore.
So with a rule like that I think I might want to remove any combo pieces IF and its a strong IF there are better cards to play. I like my build how it is and most the cards in the combo have value even without all the combo pieces together.
But I went back and looked at the primer and saw that it compares the combo and control pieces
Which is awesome.
Here are the cards the primer listed for each build
DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards Combo Package (9)
5 Salvager of Secrets
5 Mnemonic Wall
3 Cadaver Imp
5 Urborg Uprising
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Angelic Purge
5 Peregrine Drake
Control Package (9)
3 Vedalken Aethermage
3 Pulse of Murasa
3 Primal Growth
2 Qasali Pridemage
3 Forsake the Worldly
4 Reap and Sow
The ONLY cards I run from the COMBO package are Brainspoil
Salvager of Secrets, Cadaver Imp,Angelic Purge, Displace
The cards I ALREADY run from the CONTROL package are Vedalken Aethermage, Reclaim, Primal Growth, Unmake
Reap and Sow
So would you think to automatically remove all the COMBO package cards and put in all the CONTROL package cards or not?? I mean I still think Cadaver Imp is a great card in the deck.
Also would cloud of fairies also be removed or would you keep it in?? And ghostly flicker and displace still help with ETB effects but may not be as useful now if you aren't trying to combo off?
So just curious what you guys would remove or keep if you weren't wanting a infinite combo in your deck.?
Thanks as always
Apr 6, 2019@wallabee.. Thanks a ton of going back to each post.. I know the replies take time so I appreciate you taking it.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
Also didn't know you could tap a summoning sickness creature with springleaf drum that is a cool little tidbit
Also thanks for your insight on a couple of the other cards.. You may differ alittle bit from @lyonhaert but it's good to have different perspectives..
And I may have been to easy to rush to recursion as a NEED and its not.. Just the very last game I played I think I committed to the board too much and then really wished I could get back what I needed to finish the game. So it's prob not as big a need as I think it is and will just try and add 1 recursion card and focus on some other elements of the deck like draw or countermagic..
Look forward to play testing in the next few weeks with the suggestions of you and lyonhaert..
Apr 6, 2019Posted in: Multiplayer Commander DecklistsQuote from CruxMDQ »*The Queen bows her head slowly, impressed* Now here's a dedicated servant of the Hive
The one reason for which I'm going to feature your list on the primer is because it's kitchen table Magic. A deck fit for social gaming. And, my friend, that's great.
You seem to know your deck well enough. I'm kind of afraid to give much advice, because most of the additions I'd suggest could have the unintended effect of boosting the power of your list beyond KTM. I think Vanquisher's Banner and Beast Whisperer are the most worthwile picks out of the list you mentioned last. Synapse Sliver has proved to be a lightning rod, and the fact that its ability procs via combat damage reduces its flexibility somewhat. Toxin Sliver is rather weak in my book for the same reason.
There are some qualities your swarm definitely needs - haste, flying, lifelink and mana. Duplication in those cases won't hurt. First strike and double strike overlap so pick one of each.
Wow.. No way.. I feel super honored.. In no way did I ever think that would happen.. That is so awesome!!
And thanks for the 2 suggestions.. Yeah I want to make the deck alittle more optimized but not so optimized that it hurts the playability of my deck with the group I'm in at the moment.. I think both those suggestions are spot on. And thanks for the advice on the 2 slivers I asked about.. I'll prob leave those out.
Is there any other slivers you really love in your deck that I may of left out,?
Thanks again and I feel proud to be a part of this sliver thread.. I love slivers so this is so awesome
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