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  • posted a message on War of The Spark Trailer
    There's not gonna be 36 walkers in the set because there's only 15-16 mythics.
    Even if they commit the massive atrocity of spreading them into sealed product that's 15 in set, up to 5 in Planeswalker Decks, 5 in Game Night, 2 in Starter Kit, 5 in a Guild Kits-like product and 8 in WAR Mythic Edition. Then we could get up to 40, but 20 wouldn't be readily avaliable to most of the world.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on War of The Spark Trailer
    Time to throw all those cool Ravnica toys into the trash for the sake of one more disaster movie.
    Everyone loved what happened to Zendikar and Innistrad, right?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Challenger Decks 2019
    Quote from user-11102155 »
    the previous challenger decks were a great product with 4 meta relevant decks.
    since i Ajani's Pridemate was confirmed, i wonder what deck he will be in that is meta relevant. never saw him in any list of any decent tournament, nor in my own standard games. i know he was in a kind of starter deck online, but that cant count, or ?

    are they downgrading the challenger decks ? the last ones were well designed and playable right out of the box. i fear a white weenie deck with a pridemate wont be able to hold up to the previous challenger decks
    It's gonna be the BO1 Mono White aggro deck that was winning in Arena before RNA.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    20 mana rocks IS a lot. cEDH Teferi runs 13-15 and is the rampiest deck when it comes to rocks. Sharuum, an eggs deck, runs 18. And Nin, the only artifact combo deck that's remained competitive, runs 16. Both artifact decks get their OP bursts from KCI, and Nin combos with Staff of Domination because PE is too clunky. Nin also runs Metalworker.

    You really overestimate PE's power, prevalence and popularity. It's a Sisay, Selvala and Jhoira card, maybe playable in Vannifar. The first two were already taking 10 minute turns before PE was printed, all it does is make sure they win once they have their engine rolling, and Jhoira wins pretty fast with it because Jhoira+Gilded Lotus+PE pretty much reads "draw your deck" unless you stumble on a very thick land pocket.

    It's an excellent card, in very particular cases can be opressive, played by bad combo players it's a durdling dud. I agree with all of that, but the more we debate it the more I believe it's not nearly as powerful, potentially prevalent or problematic as PoK was.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on as a female player the new art style females is getting really annoying
    You excuse vengeance and biases as justice, and only focus on the real-life parallels you want to, because you are not just. Not because it's right.

    It's ok, you're an individual and you value your judgment and experiences over anyone elses. But we as a society (and as a subgroup of society, magic players) are diverse people who shouldn't be forced to adapt to certain biases just because previous events, knowingly or not, allowed for a different set of biases.

    It's not possible to please all the people all of the time but going out of your way to discriminate in the name of justice is not and never will be just. In the context of entertainment, not too long ago companies understood this and had both majority appeal products and special interest products even within the same brands and IPs (i.e. DC Comics' Elseworlds line). This allowed more people to enjoy more things without discriminating against anyone. But now between Left Coast "woke at any cost" politics and mergernomics pushing so hard for earnings spikes to the detriment of long term stability, we've seen a lot of very questionable and very misguided attempts to make things for everyone that end up not being for anyone. Superficially diversyfying characters is perfectly fine, doing so at the detriment of character archetypes deemed obsolete not because of their characteristics, popularity, etc. but because of politics and then following all of this with "Look at us we're so diverse buy our stuff or you're Hitler #gamersaredead lololol!!!111" twitter campaigns is why DC sold more comics than Marvel in 2016 and 2017.

    A lot more people would have been receptive to Jane Foster as Thor if it didn't come with a flood of "journalism" that pretty much ammounted to "Why this is not for you unless you have a particular inferiority-superiority complex, and why we at wokeclickbaitnews thinks that's ok". I guess it's true that a lot of the times what you say isn't as important as how you say it.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on as a female player the new art style females is getting really annoying
    All her other artwork gave the impression she was confident, charismatic, cunning, enigmatic and an aristocrat. Like she looked like she new she was better than everyone and liked it.
    And that's exactly the kind of person that likely bullied (or had their basic congeniality perceived as bullying by the socially inept) the frumpy and insecure girls who now as adults and in such roles as marketing executive or art director would rather erase those girls who were cruel to them in high school from their product.

    It's basically the Adam Sandler movie underdog fantasy.

    As for depictions of violence. When you put a prefix on a word like justice, any prefix, it squarely isn't justice anymore. Justice is Just for all, prefix justice is justice for a select group at the exclusion of others. Liliana manipulating other men to mob Garruk is exactly as realistic as Garruk shoving her against a rock. Claiming ToF shouldn't be depicted because it's a thing that happens erases the experience of men who have been victims of mob justice incited by women. Not to mention people also get Murdered, Stab Wounded and even Incinerateed. So let's be sincere and admit the problem with ToF isn't the depiction of realistic violence, but the fact that it`s easily exploitable by clickbait politickers who keep shoving their propaganda into every aspect of culture.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    And it's way worse in those decks because dorks tend to have summoning sickness and therefore can't develop an incremental mana engine in a single turn like artifacts can.
    PE is nowhere near as good as Metalworker. Metalworker drops Ulamog or Ugin turn 2. PE usually does well turn 4-6 with notable build up, at that point other players should be capable of fighting it.

    It's nowhere near the same magnitude of power as Fastbond or Metalworker. It's more in line with Altar/Deathmantle and Monolith/Rings.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on Going Infinite and "I Win" Combos Outside cEDH.
    Quote from DirkGently »
    You can play duals and fetches in an otherwise jank deck. No one's going to call the cops, I promise.
    Wrong. I've lost count of the playgroups I've played in where your deck was called cutthroat even if it was all dumb french vanilla creatures just because you happened to have a Bayou.

    Casual can't be defined. What's casual and fun to me is finding suboptimal ways to win even if I have access to better plays. Wheter or not that's casual to you isn't very relevant because we don't play each other.

    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    I saw people swap commanders to play PoK. I'm not seeing people turn their creature decks into artifact decks to play PE.
    Panharmonicon had more of an impact IME, people who didn't use to run creatures now pack Mulldrifter, Cloublazer, et al. to exploit Panharmonicon and I have seen Panharmonicon be targeted by Copy Artifact and Phyrexian Metamorph unlike PE.

    Anecdotal, but everything in this discussion is. Again I play on MTGO and paper so I see hundreds more decks a month than I would if I only played at my LGS, and decks tend to be less janky because staples are cheap i.e. PE itself is $0.80
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    That sounds like a "cult of the new" fallacy. New media is commonly more popular because populations keep growing not necessarily because of qualitative aspects of the new media. Atraxa is the most popular Commander with more decks than the 5th and 6th places combined, that doesn't necessarily mean it's categorically better or that everyone plays her. It just means it's a bright new toy and interesting enough to remain entertaining for more people unlike the C17 and C18 commanders. Something new and good being popular is not strange, it's expected.

    Engine is the brand new toy for combo players. I bet if Thousand-Year Storm was a 5cmc artifact it'd be creeping on it's turf. It's not among the 100 most played cards and I doubt it'll get there unless we get a lot more mana rocks that tap for 2+ AND more cards like Endless Atlas. So I'm gonna reiterate, the problem with PE isn't the card itself or people playing the card as a combo/value engine. The problem is people shoving it where it doesn't belong and floundering the game for everyone esle, maliciously or through incompetence.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on Combatting Ramp
    Some people are inherently against the concept of touching lands even if you brutalize them consistently with Cabal Coffers mana. All you can do in that situation is just keep winning and hearing the dude who hates your ramp deck but refuses to play Ghost Quarter whine/just keep losing so that your playgroup won't complain because you added Armageddon to beat the Tatyova deck that kept beating you all every week.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Serum Visions is a bad card and Fyndhorn Elves is redundant card that hasn't been meaningfully reprinted in decades(Llanowar Elves and Elvish Mystic are both at 23K), Staff has also been pretty much replaced by easier combos these past 4 or so years.

    Let's compare to other easily splashable engines that aren't $40 like DS. Blood Artist 19K. Panharmonicon 15K. Ashnod's Altar 31K. Eternal Witness 55K. Skullclamp 56K. Sidisi, Undead Vizier 20K. Sensei's Divining Top 39K.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on Going Infinite and "I Win" Combos Outside cEDH.
    Quote from DirkGently »
    Mostly I just don't understand how people could have fun following the inverted mantra. The reason the EDH mantra works is that competition is FUN. Trying your best to win at a game is a pastime that's provided enjoyment for humans since time immemorial. And as long as everyone is playing toned-down decks that don't have easy "I win" buttons, it's a good, satisfying game.
    Because if the board state allows it I'd rather win with Gravecrawler and Diregraf Colossus beats even if I have Phyrexian Altar and Blood Artist in hand, than lose to mana screw from playing taplands.

    Holding back can be fun because it makes you analyze the game from layers you wouldn't and find alternative roads to victory that playing competitively with bad cards just doesn't give.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    I've never cloned a Paradox Engine, or seen one be cloned because it needs more setup to be a useful card than PoK's "I play lands and creatures".
    I play a lot on MTGO where Copy Artifact is around the $1 mark and rather common too. PE is also not that commonly played outide of decks that combo with it Online.

    Next time you think a card is played "everywhere", consider wether you play with more than 10 different people a month. EDHREC search sees it in 12.K decklists, mostly Breya, Azami, Ydris, Sisay. Cyclonic Rift is in 74K and Lightning Greaves 91K, those are actual "everywhere" numbers.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on Cards Most Needing a C19 Reprint
    I'd rather they don't reprint cards that have been recently reprinted already because that's how/why other cards creep up as sellers try to recoup the lost dollars on cards that didn't get reprinted but find renewed interest thanks to the ones that did.
    Phyrexian Altar and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth were in UMA? Good, that means C19 needs Altar of Dementia and Cabal Coffers to cool those down too, not another immediate reprint of PA and Urborg.

    I also would rather they finally look at all the $1-$4 INV-ONS era cards that they refuse to reprint instead of giving us one more Butcher of Malakir. Talismans instead of Signets, Eggs instead of Cluestones. Those cards may not be expensive but they're very hard to get in any quality that doesn't feel like toilet paper because cardboard just doesn't last 20 years, specially when it's common cardboard.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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