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  • posted a message on MaRo's AFR Teaser
    If you think having Kithkin, Halflings, Azra, and Tieflings are trippy, Hobbit will likely be added with the Lord of the Rings set.


    Don't think so. Hobbits are called halflings in lotr too. That's actually where it started.

    Pretty sure they'll go with hobbits in a LotR set, simply because that's like the expectation. And modern Magic is all about expectations. I am curious if they will go with Ent over Treefolk though. That's a bit less certain.
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  • posted a message on MaRo's AFR Teaser
    • Creature – Human Elf Monk

    Does this mean they will errata Radha too?
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  • posted a message on Oracle update and Rules changes most particularly The Phyrexian errata wave
    Quote from fleshrum »
    I control Blind Zealot and Viseling. The 4color atraxa deck controls consecrated sphinx and Eastern Paladin. A third friend playing Knight Tribal controls dauthi mercenary and Northern Paladin. The fourth player controls Mercenary Informer and Spiteful Bully. I cast kindred dominance naming "phyrexian".

    Can you tell me what dies without looking at the list?

    That's a sorcery that's done in one. What if I cast Coat of Arms? Can you easily tell what gets boosted?

    This is a change that could have massive impact, and I'm curious as to why they would do this.

    I'm confused about the inclusion of Blind Zealot, Spiteful Bully, Mercenary Informer, Northern Paladin and Dauthi Mercenary. The first two are painfully obviously phyrexians, the latter three decidedly non-phyrexian and I'm confused why these would cause any issue???

    Eastern Paladin could be an issue depending on printing and Viseling is a little bit too subtle/obscure for players to figure out intuitively it's a phyrexian, fair.

    Really one of the biggest problems here is Consecrated Sphinx, and you could make an argument that cards like it are precisely the reason this errata shouldn't be done. But I mean these kinda arguments could be made for any creature type errata. Classes are much more arbitrary and probably cause more confusion for older cards. Then again classes have more merit as creature types imo, than phyrexian so. Shrugs
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair: Stranger Things
    Quote from boombox_smk »
    These are great points. Some people, whether talking about MtG, video games, or anything else, for that matter; get upset when something exists or incurs that they don't want. Whether or not it directly affects them, they are vocally outraged. When the Nintendo Switch came out I remember participating in a thread on Reddit where people were discussing their desire for Nintendo to finally get on board with achievements, and add them to the ecosystem—completely additive. There were suggestions to be able to hide/disable them if you don't want them, even. Some players were absolutely ENRAGED by the prospect—for reasons I am still unable to truly discern—and the thread devolved into some of the most egregious, volatile comments I've ever witnessed on Reddit. People that adamantly have a deep hatred of achievement, for whatever reason, were doxxing other people. There were death threats, constant ad hoc attacks, and the thread was ultimately locked and deleted after people wouldn't stop. Some users were banned. It was insane. For something that would have absolutely zero effect on them if they chose to ignore them. The same thing happens, here, too. A lot of people that want control over what their playgroups play, often have a playgroup with friends with similar desires. For instance, if you don't want EDH decks to have a power level higher than 5 or 6, you probably only play with people that also play that way. Even if someone in the same LGS is playing Negan, if you don't like it you don't have to play against that deck. If your playgroup is fine with them playing a Negan deck, but you aren't, perhaps the issue is yours and not the person having fun with Negan. As has been pointed out numerous times, with their solution of printing in-universe versions of UB cards, there shouldn't be a problem what-so-ever, for people that want to play with cards with a different coat of paint. If someone doesn't like UB cards on principle, I'd be disturbed if they have waifu, Sonic the Hedgehog, or DBZ alters. It's hypocritical. I have seen a person at an LGS complain about someone's Aliens vs. Predator alters, as being too sci-fi, while they themselves had naked elves painted all over their own cards.

    Yes, some people take it too far and some people are hypocrites. Your point? You list extremes as if that's a valid counter argument to people disliking UB.

    I don't have alters. I never sent anyone death threats. I don't do any of the things people in the "pro-UB" camp people accuse the other side of, except, you know, not liking UB.

    You know what. On this very forum alone we have two people who like UB and

    • think they are somehow entitled to other people's freetime and entertainment
    • actually call people who don't like UB "mentally ill" (go check out the original thread if you don't believe me)
    respectively. Since you assume everyone in one camp is exactly like their worst examples, then do I have to assume that you think these things as well?

    You're basically using strawmen to make yourself feel better about your position when in truth your stance on UB has no more or less merit than that of people who don't like UB.

    And when you have to hold up your argument using strawmen, then you don't have an argument at all.
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair: Stranger Things
    I'm really glad that someone brought up the fact that P3k and Arabian Nights are sets that ALSO fit this break of UB. I'm a fierce advocate of Rule 0 and while I can kinda see someone getting upset about silver-bordered cards at the table, it irks me that people will actively bar people from using these cards. Yeah, I don't give a flip about your semantics of "I'm not saying that they can't play with them I'm just saying that I'm not going to play with someone that plays them." It's still gatekeeping.

    Oh my god, not this gatekeeping argument again. We covered this in the other thread already. Why bring it up again?

    You are not entitled to my freetime activities. I can choose who to play with and what to play.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Mothership 6/3 -- The Tokens
    Quote from Perodequeso »
    Quote from Flisch »
    Quote from 5colors »
    Quote from Perodequeso »
    Those treasures on that second treasure token are Aladdin's Lamp, Sandals of Abdallah, and an empty Bottle of Suleiman, me thinks.
    With nicer art than the originals.


    I got Kaladesh vibes from them (to go along with Ragavan), though could be the Kaladesh "master piece" versions of them.

    You can actually see the items in Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer's artwork. (The regular artwork) So it's unlikely they are supposed to be specifically the Rabiah artifacts. At best they're references, but apart from maybe the sandals the art doesn't match up too well.


    Just because those artifacts appear on Ragavan does not preclude them from being nods to the Arabian Nights artifacts. As to the sandals, differing art styles do exist within MTG canon. I'd be interesting to ask Anna Fehr what her inspiration and guidelines were. While I love the look and style of those old cards, some of the art was hokey AF. So any newer art depicting older Magic imagery will have more often than not upgraded the art style.
    It's a set with a lot of throw back refences, so it's all about the Easter eggs man, it's what you do to appease your fan base.

    It's my parade so don't rain on it, LOL!!!

    As I said, it's possible these are references to the Rabiah artifacts. The sandals do look suspiciously similar to Abdallah's.
    However, two points:
    1) The other two artifacts don't line up that well. I can see the lamp being an upgraded/Kaladeshi version of Aladdin's Lamp, but Suleiman's Bottle just doesn't evoke its original art at all, which would be the entire point of a nod to old cards.
    2) Why these three cards specifically? Is there something I'm missing? Were the sandals particularly popular? This is of course not proof that it can't be a nod, but it would make the selection somewhat weird, especially since the cards are put into a different setting than they originally appeared in.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Mothership 6/3 -- The Tokens
    Quote from 5colors »
    Quote from Perodequeso »
    Those treasures on that second treasure token are Aladdin's Lamp, Sandals of Abdallah, and an empty Bottle of Suleiman, me thinks.
    With nicer art than the originals.


    I got Kaladesh vibes from them (to go along with Ragavan), though could be the Kaladesh "master piece" versions of them.

    You can actually see the items in Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer's artwork. (The regular artwork) So it's unlikely they are supposed to be specifically the Rabiah artifacts. At best they're references, but apart from maybe the sandals the art doesn't match up too well.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Combine Chrysalis— Jake and Joel are Magic preview
    Quote from Flisch »
    Then I realized it's a "Simic Combine" Chrysalis. (And the name suddenly soudned less awkward as well, haha.)


    I mean it's a really weird simic card too. Both the flavor and the mechanics are kinda off.
    First we have that boros legendary that uses golems. Now a simic card about sacrifice/tokens. Are they shifting the guilds' identity?
    I mean, I get what they were trying to go for with the second ability. You put in a creature (or a treasure/clue/food...) and out comes a big monster, kinda like Rapid Hybridization, but I have no idea how the first ability is supposed to tie into this? I guess butterflies?! But like... What.

    When I saw the card name I thought it was going to be a homage to Cocoon (that combines creatures). To me a chrysalis/cocoon always implies slow change, not instant transformation.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Mothership 6/01— Magus of the Bridge
    I don't like that they used the "Magus of the <thing>" naming scheme for something that functionally doesn't follow the Magus template. :/
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Loading Ready Run previews: Glimmer Bairn , Fury (red Incarnation)
    I don't get why they didn't make Glimmer Bairn into an atog. The card has nothing to do with Gilder Bairn. I guess it was a change late in development and it had a similar effect to the ultimate of Battle for Bretagard?
    Honestly they should have just saved the art for later then.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Combine Chrysalis— Jake and Joel are Magic preview
    COM-bine with the stress on the first syllable. Like the Simic Combine, the noun. Not the verb com-BINE. Just had to bring this up to satisfy my inner pronunciation nerd.

    I was stumped about the flavour for a bit, wondering how this is supposed to combine anything.
    Then I realized it's a "Simic Combine" Chrysalis. (And the name suddenly soudned less awkward as well, haha.)

    Not that the flavour is that much better, with the proper pronounciation, but whatever.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Mothership 5/28— Damn, Bone Shredder, Flame Blitz, and Gorilla Shaman
    What i really dont like is how they use Overload here.

    Everyone that knows Overload will read the card wrong (at least at first) , might even play it wrong.
    This is by design and super annoying.

    What do you mean? This card works precisely like every single other overload card.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Mothership 5/28— Damn, Bone Shredder, Flame Blitz, and Gorilla Shaman
    Quote from Tarmaniel »
    It's not actually strictly better, Damn can't Wrath creatures with shroud/hexproof/protection.

    Overload specifically circumvents this, by changing the text of the card. Its overload mode is literally Wrath/Damnation, which aren't targeted.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Legion Vanguard and Dermotaxi— Brent Vos previews
    Nice, our first sneak peak at a The Flintstones world.
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  • posted a message on [MH2] Territorial Kavu— Brad Nelson preview
    Quote from Flisch »
    With this and the other green card spoiled that exiles cards from graveyard, I guess graveyard hate is moving to green? I don't remember there being much graveyard hate prior to MH2.
    Oldest graveyard hate card in Green is Ground Seal, originally printed in Odyssey over 20 years ago. It's been around.

    That's more like an extension of shroud though. I'm talking about specifically exiling cards from a graveyard. And yes, there may have been green cards here and there that did this (though I can't recall any), but that's not the same as one set having this effect in a colour twice. Just how there being green creatures with flying doesn't mean flying is in-colour for green.
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